Unofficial Preview Sack Hinkley

[RussellEbertHandball]

A bit of evidence that playing young players in 2019 has made us inconsistent is a BS argument. I had made this spreadsheet up to the China game but after my post this arvo a couple of pages back, thought I should finish it off.

Our injuries have been a bigger reason for our inconsistency. Also as GremioPower said, we have been inconsistent for the 3 years he has been watching us.

We have been the more experienced side 9 games and have lost 5 of them. But we have played plenty of 100+ gamers and 50-99 gamers.

It was that 4 or 5 weeks between Rd 7 and 13 with 5 to 8 best 22 players injured that have hurt us more than youth of Butters, Rozee and Duursma as well as Drew, Farrell, Garner, Ladhams getting a few games.

Burton played his 50th game Rd 3, Houston Rd 11, and Amon and SPP in Rd 13.

In the next paragraphs are guys who had played 100 games but weren't injured so were out for form and have come in and out of the side. I counted Dixon and Hartlett playing in the SANFL after a long term injury as still missing with injury until they got picked in the A grade.

Rd 1 Broadie was playing SANFL - as was Sutcliffe who wasn't on the main list yet.

Motlop got dropped for Rd 5. In Rd 8 Motlop and Broadie came back in the side. Rd 13 Broadie out. Rd 14 Westhoff and Ryder out. Round 16 Hoff in. Rd 17 Sutcliffe in. Rd 18 Broadie in.


Bugger forgot that Burton was injured and missing for Richmond game last Saturday.

 

[FallingLiefs]

It's just occurred to me that Ken's bizarre and off brand insistence that finals are everything is going to preface not playing Garner Drew Marshall or Frampton at all for the rest of the season.

Amazing considering the Trengove V Marshall decision not that long ago.

 

[Rexie J]

My 3 pieces of advice for Jonas are,

1. lose that inane grin that you regularly display at the coin toss
2. show some respect for the members of the club
3. and the most important, play your opponent shoulder to shoulder and try and prevent him from kicking or being involved in multiple goals, and don't worry about distributing the ball yourself, because you SUCK at it!

4. Retire.

 

[GranFormaggi]

They should have been made to drive back to Adelaide after that game like I did and then they would have seen all the insulting signs hanging from the bridges and overpasses on the Western Highway.

Yes, I am reminded of the Emergency Choking Lane signs every time I drive back from Melbourne.

 

[GranFormaggi]

Not really, we win that and will follow it up with a loss - it's all the s**t before that should of been make or break..

Totally. The game at the Gabba.....was make or break. The shit losses at home to 0.5x Richmond and Bulldogs......both make or break.

3 more far-Ken wins that would have had this week being a little bit less make or break. FFS.

 

[Magus]

Totally. The game at the Gabba.....was make or break. The s**t losses at home to 0.5x Richmond and Bulldogs......both make or break.

3 more far-Ken wins that would have had this week being a little bit less make or break. FFS.

Don't forget Freo in Perth.

 

[tribey]

4. Retire.

The last time the natives were this restless they went and formed West Torrens.

 

[PowerLil]

I thought Bruce McAvaney's comments re Port this morning interesting even though he did say there weren't based on any inside info. He said we looked and played like an unhappy playing group. Mmm.

 

[Jojay]

I physically can't listen to the Hinkley/Wheatley interview. I can hardly bring myself to listen to Ken talk full stop now.

Yep, same. Tried sitting through is press conference after last week's game... made it to about 3 mins in... just can't do it anymore.

 

[tribey]

Yep, same. Tried sitting through is press conference after last week's game... made it to about 3 mins in... just can't do it anymore.

I’ve gotta say, even though it was bitterly obvious Chocolate had long since run his race, listening to his post-match presser while sitting in Football Park gridlock was still compulsory.

Win or lose, Hinkley descended to “change the channel, Marge!” levels years ago.

 

[klem22]

I physically can't listen to the Hinkley/Wheatley interview. I can hardly bring myself to listen to Ken talk full stop now.

I stopped listening to hinkley a long time ago. I literally get angry every time i see him. He spews out garbage every time he opens his mouth He is a fraudster along with kock and keith.

 

[Relativity]

Tom Jonas saying the game against GWS is make is make or break for finals.

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If he gets to the "drawing a line in the sand" bit then I'm hibernating for the next 2 years.

 

[PowerBaz]

I thought Bruce McAvaney's comments re Port this morning interesting even though he did say there weren't based on any inside indo. He said we looked and played like an unhappy playing group. Mmm.

Uninspired I’d say.

Brisbane are inspired.

Ken is not inspiring.

 

[snozulu]

This insistence that we can still play finals is insulting quite honestly. We basically have to rely on outside forces for it to be a possibility, as was the case in round 23 last year.
The fact that you made the season go the way it did by continually failing to meet expectations and still want to make members think we have a chance means you don't rate our intelligence very highly. Just stop talking finals.

I think ken has been getting high on his own supply.

 

[Pappagallo]

The fact that you made the season go the way it did by continually failing to meet expectations and still want to make members think we have a chance means you don't rate our intelligence very highly. Just stop talking finals.

This is the most damning aspect of Hinkley’s continued failure over the last few years. When there’s no expectation we’re golden, but the moment that pressure gets cranked up even just a touch we flounder.

A team who has beaten the reigning premiers in Perth, the Crows in an away showdown and top of the table Geelong (who we’ve beaten only one other time since Dylan was born) should not be a game and percentage out of finals contention. It’s unforgivable.

 

[ClintEastwood]

Iz'e gone yet? Iz'e?

 

[tribey]

A team who has beaten the reigning premiers in Perth, the Crows in an away showdown and top of the table Geelong (who we’ve beaten only one other time since Dylan was born) should not be a game and percentage out of finals contention. It’s unforgivable.

And not to labour the point — that doesn’t sound like me at all — just one game ahead of a team that is missing key personnel to mental health, heart problems, multiple concussive trauma and just sacked its coach.

 

[Eric Blair]

This insistence that we can still play finals is insulting quite honestly. We basically have to rely on outside forces for it to be a possibility, as was the case in round 23 last year.
The fact that you made the season go the way it did by continually failing to meet expectations and still want to make members think we have a chance means you don't rate our intelligence very highly. Just stop talking finals.

They’re scared shitless of a small crowd for the gws game that’s why he’s talking up finals all of a sudden as though this is custers last stand. The club knows it he knows it and most importantly we all know it

Get him out while we still can

 

[Visenfest]

I flew back from Melb. on the same flight as the coach and team (2 rows behind Hinkley). We're always told that the players feel the loss as much as we do. Well that certainly didn't apply to Jonas and Rockliffe who engaged in wrestling with each other in the row in front of the coaches. Oh, and a quick little game of hide the shoe which Ken joined in. I was sad, angry and disappointed at the same time.

Jonas and Rockliff should play a little game of hide the Coke No Sugar on the next flight. Ken's reaction would mean the AFP would likely solve our coaching problem.

 

[Pappagallo]

And not to labour the point — that doesn’t sound like me at all — just one game ahead of a team that is missing key personnel to mental health, heart problems, multiple concussive trauma and just sacked its coach.

Our performance under Ken has been totally bonkers. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure we’ve beaten every single reigning premier apart from one since he started in 2013. How do you reconcile that with our lack of finals participation? It doesn’t even make sense.

There is some serious performance anxiety pervading this group and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a big part of Ken’s personality/management style considering that he’s one of the last remaining constants.

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

WE EXIST TO KEEP KOCH HAPPY, KT RELEVANT AND HINKLEY EMPLOYED, its not quite the same as existing to win premierships but trust me it will grow on you.

 

[tribey]

Our performance under Ken has been totally bonkers. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure we’ve beaten every single reigning premier apart from one since he started in 2013. How do you reconcile that with our lack of finals participation? It doesn’t even make sense.

There is some serious performance anxiety pervading this group and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a big part of Ken’s personality/management style considering that he’s one of the last remaining constants.

Doing the double over the Hawks in the midst of the final leg of their threepeat while also losing to the bottom and second-bottom sides (Blues/Lions) in 2015 remains his magnum opus, and the truest reflection of his coaching career.

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

Our performance under Ken has been totally bonkers. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure we’ve beaten every single reigning premier apart from one since he started in 2013. How do you reconcile that with our lack of finals participation? It doesn’t even make sense.

There is some serious performance anxiety pervading this group and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a big part of Ken’s personality/management style considering that he’s one of the last remaining constants.

because there is a difference in beating the Premiers in the minor rounds and not when it really matters, it reflects a window dressing attitude that wants to look like it has the goods but when you go inside the shop the shelves are empty, add to that the reigning premiers generally have every team come after them the following year so they arent exactly going gang-busters all year but rather pacing themselves for the real action. Dont get carried away with Kens moments of inspiration, its more often than not moments of softness and mental weakness that portrays this club.

 

[Magus]

Our performance under Ken has been totally bonkers. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure we’ve beaten every single reigning premier apart from one since he started in 2013. How do you reconcile that with our lack of finals participation? It doesn’t even make sense.

There is some serious performance anxiety pervading this group and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a big part of Ken’s personality/management style considering that he’s one of the last remaining constants.

All of Ken's strategies are based around defence and, more specifically, stopping the opposition.

We've tagged Rance, we've tagged Laird, we've actually taken a delistee in the midseason draft for the specific role of tagging an opposition player.

He talks publically about how we're not the most skilled side out there. He talks about how tough and even the competition is all the time. He's not selling belief to these players.

They go out there and win when there's nothing to play for but when the pressure is on, they revert back to thinking that they're not good enough because it's been drilled into them. By the time we click into gear we've already been blown off the park and that translates into entire wasted seasons.

A good coach will make the players think they're unbeatable. He'll make them want to run through walls. The only evidence you need of Ken's motivational skills are our first quarters this year.

 

[Lockhart Road]

All of Ken's strategies are based around defence and, more specifically, stopping the opposition.

We've tagged Rance, we've tagged Laird, we've actually taken a delistee in the midseason draft for the specific role of tagging an opposition player.

He talks publically about how we're not the most skilled side out there. He talks about how tough and even the competition is all the time. He's not selling belief to these players.

They go out there and win when there's nothing to play for but when the pressure is on, they revert back to thinking that they're not good enough because it's been drilled into them.

You have described a classic Pessimist.