I 100% agree with this - injuries like that dont just happen, you damage yourself over time then the area weakensIndeed. But my pet theory for a causal link between MRP/Optus and lower leg injuries is that training and playing on sub-optimal surfaces is making our players more susceptible to lower leg injuries.
Essentially there's sustained stress on ligaments, muscles, bones, which accumulates until serious injury occurs.
But unlike some of the more esteemed doctor scientist geniuses on here, I'm just guessing.
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good to hear they are looking into it, perhaps they can get different boots to combat it too??
Or more likely Ishmael_ is misremembering the whole podcast thing and just read it in this thread?
For what it's worth a quick google found me some studies showing a causal link between playing on astroturf and an increase in lower leg injuries (US obviously), so it's not crazy to think playing and training on harder surfaces would have similar results.
Used to play high grade hockey in Perth.
Trained and played on Astroturf - legs were definitely ‘different’ after turf v grass sessions/games.
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They should be asking for a refund then or they'll out his business as being shit
Yep - I'm currently playing in a grass team and an astroturf team and I definitely pull up a lot worse after the astroturf.
Injury list:
Tom Cole Ankle 6-7 weeks
Jamie Cripps Ankle 6-7 weeks
Jai Culley Knee Season
Jack Darling Arm 2-3 weeks
Harry Edwards Groin TBC
Luke Edwards Concussion 1-2 weeks
Jamaine Jones Ankle 8-10 weeks
Jeremy McGovern Hamstring 2-3 weeks
Nic Naitanui Achilles 6-7 weeks
Samo Petrevski-Seton Quad 1 week
Liam Ryan Hamstring 7-8 weeks
Luke Shuey Ankle/Hamstring 1 week
Isiah Winder Knee 6-7 weeks
Miguel Sanchez
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Naitanui 6-7 weeks
Naitanui 6-7 weeks
Naitanui 6-7 weeks
Naitanui 6-7 weeks.
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Naitanui 6-7 weeks
Naitanui 6-7 weeks
Naitanui 6-7 weeks.
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He won't play this year.
Should be on the LTI so we can rookie some ruck to fill a gap while he sorts his shit out.
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No, you see we can’t do that apparently. Because …
We still have hope that despite our questionable "unlucky" injury management he's going to be fit before the end of the season.
'Naitanui 6-7 weeks' seems to be the final hill of bullshit the west coast comms department is absolutely determined to die on.
They'll drag simpson into awkward post game interviews with gary stocks to apologise to fans, maybe they’ll ease up on the 'five things we learned from this weeks appalling loss' drivel, they'll even stop saying TBC so often but by god, no power on earth will get them to admit nic naitanui won't play this season and they ****ed up by resigning him.
He's absolutely going to be back in 6-7 weeks, and the fact that its been 6-7 weeks since they first said he'd be back in 6-7 weeks, and 12 weeks since he 'didn't quite come up' for round one after playing zero preseason games, that's a problem with your reality, not theirs. Get your dreadlock wig from the team store, dust off your nicnat doll and book your tickets for round 18 versus Richmond, Naitanui is back in 6-7 weeks!
They'll drag simpson into awkward post game interviews with gary stocks to apologise to fans, maybe they’ll ease up on the 'five things we learned from this weeks appalling loss' drivel, they'll even stop saying TBC so often but by god, no power on earth will get them to admit nic naitanui won't play this season and they ****ed up by resigning him.
He's absolutely going to be back in 6-7 weeks, and the fact that its been 6-7 weeks since they first said he'd be back in 6-7 weeks, and 12 weeks since he 'didn't quite come up' for round one after playing zero preseason games, that's a problem with your reality, not theirs. Get your dreadlock wig from the team store, dust off your nicnat doll and book your tickets for round 18 versus Richmond, Naitanui is back in 6-7 weeks!
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Are we even sure Nic is still alive and this isnt some weekend at Bernies situation?
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NN as good as TBC at this stage.
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Yeah but get up it’s game day..
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They cannot predict injuries and NN was coming off an all-Australian gig when he got an extension.
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He was actually coming off a year where he only managed eight games when he signed his current two-year deal.
This season should qualify as the old "bait and switch" tactic by the Eagles
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A send off game more tragic than Ben Cousins last Richmond appearance.
Nic nat 6-7 weeks will reduce from round 17 by 1 week.
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The club aren’t helping themselves by simply ignoring that Naitanui is injured and not giving any updates on his progress. I also think the perpetual 6-7 week timeframe is a byproduct of the criticism they got for TBC
I’m not a medical expert by any stretch but from what I do understand, Achilles are notoriously difficult to manage and aren’t always an easy fix. So this is my guess
There was a comment from the club a while ago that they’re trying to rebuild the muscles around his Achilles so that it can respond to treatment. With that in mind I’d suggest they still haven’t yet got to the point where his Achilles isn’t hurting but when they do it’ll be a 6-7 week mini preseason to get him ready to play
So they’re close enough to believe he’s about to turn the corner but the injury is being stubborn and he can’t quite get to starting a preseason
So 6-7 weeks in perpetuity
And I doubt very much the delay has anything to do with Nic not working hard enough in rehab.
An update/explanation would be nice though
I’m not a medical expert by any stretch but from what I do understand, Achilles are notoriously difficult to manage and aren’t always an easy fix. So this is my guess
There was a comment from the club a while ago that they’re trying to rebuild the muscles around his Achilles so that it can respond to treatment. With that in mind I’d suggest they still haven’t yet got to the point where his Achilles isn’t hurting but when they do it’ll be a 6-7 week mini preseason to get him ready to play
So they’re close enough to believe he’s about to turn the corner but the injury is being stubborn and he can’t quite get to starting a preseason
So 6-7 weeks in perpetuity
And I doubt very much the delay has anything to do with Nic not working hard enough in rehab.
An update/explanation would be nice though
If you want to pass the time with a bit of wild theorising the last time naitanui's expected return date changed (from 7-8 weeks to 6-7 weeks) was 2 May, ie 5 weeks ago.
The last time he was seen doing anything meaningful on the training track was 14 May- if you backtrack through this thread you'll see the article where he was reported as doing about 20 minutes of strength and conditioning drills (and if we're honest, looked really really out of condition). Then nothing meaningful since. No updates, no more sessions reported on the training track and 6-7 weeks stays 6-7 weeks.
My wild guess of what has happened, is
-the change from 7-8 to 6-7 was meant to reflect he'd got to a point where there didn't seem to be any soreness, his feet had settled down and they could start to gradually increase his training load and return him to something physically resembling an AFL player.
-He did the one very moderate session on the track on 14 May, and had he got through that ok the his weekly training would have increased and the timeline would have become 5-6 weeks. But he reported a return of soreness after that one session, which accounts for the lack of further sessions on the training track and the stalled timeline whilst they seek further medical advice/try and figure out whether to book him in for surgery/kick the can down the road. Players trying to build fitness don't transition from training to not training unless they've had a setback.
Or to put it more succintly, his feet were ****ed at the start of this year, they're still ****ed now and he's not coming back.
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