No Oppo Supporters St.Kilda sack Brett Ratten

[Mikka84]

Have we sacked Cho yet?

 

[bergholt]

What did I miss?

Welcome back mate

 

[Saint Shags]

Makes me laugh that people think we’d make an offer to Lyon without knowing if he was up and about ready to take on the challenge

It's as if you've forgotten what the club has been capable of over the last 25 years.

 

[Saint Shags]

Have we sacked Cho yet?

Gee haven't seen you round these parts!

 

[Mikka84]

Welcome back mate

I’m back for good now mate. Looking forward to the fun times.

 

[Mowman]

Have we sacked Cho yet?

Sacked him ? About to bring him back

 

[Mikka84]

Sacked him ? About to bring him back

I’d laugh.. but Saints..

 

[BrutThough]

Who are “anyone else“?. We have an elected board, a CEO, football manager etc they will make the decision. Who give a flying about anyone else, oh Kane Cornes isn’t happy

Anyone else as in the other potential candidates we should be talking too

 

[Mikka84]

Anyone else as in the other potential candidates we should be talking too

We’ll have a very brief conversation with them just the coming week. All unfit to coach for what we need.

 

[BrutThough]

I'm just not sure you're taking into account how small this industry is. There are 18 senior coaches and maybe another 10 or 15 guys in the wings who could do the job. People who've been around the industry for a long time - like Walsh, or maybe Rath when at the AFL, or Dilena, or even Lethers - know a fair bit about all of them without even having the conversations.

Then given the club has just done a full review, they know what sort of coach they're not looking for, so that rules out a lot of candidates immediately. Basically there are probably only a handful who fit the bill. They could have sounded out each of them on Friday and over the weekend.

This isn't like hiring a barista at your local cafe, where there are hundreds who might apply. It's a tiny industry with a lot of known quantities.

Yet those conversations need to happy before any senior coach gets the job.

This one should be no different.

 

[Diehard Saint]

If he is signed on for a long term deal, eg 5 years you better believe there is an expectation to be a contender within that time.

Surely it’s three max.

 

[Joffaboy]

What did I miss?

Wowsa the og ITK

 

[Mikka84]

Yet those conversations need to happy before any senior coach gets the job.

This one should be no different.

I’m not sure that’s right.. if you have in your mind a proven commodity and that’s who you’ve targeted - why introduce an unknown.. you set out for the target. Get it. Why complicate the method.

 

[BrutThough]

No it doesn’t.

If the expectation is creating an elite environment that leads to onfield success.

Ross has proven runs on the board.

So if he ticks the boxes.

What do we gain from putting the other applicants through a lengthy interview process?

They may be able to do that. But Ross has done that. Twice.

If you were buying something.

You knew what you wanted that item to do and achieve for you.

And you found an item that does all things.

What are you gaining if the similar items you are comparing them against can’t categorically be proven to achieve what you want?

That is the crux of this “process” argument

I hope the people making the decisions don't have the narrow and limited viewpoint that you have that Ross Lyon is the only possible coach out there who can create standards.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

Have we sacked Cho yet?

Not funny, I’ve only just recently gotten over my Cho nightmares.

 

[Mikka84]

Wowsa the og ITK

Hey my man.

 

[Mikka84]

Not funny, I’ve only just recently gotten over my Cho nightmares.

Those nightmares will never leave.. I’ll have dinner and suddenly drop the wine cos I see a Cho reflection.. he haunts us all.

 

[stavro#4]

I hope the people making the decisions don't have the narrow and limited viewpoint that you have that Ross Lyon is the only possible coach out there who can create standards.

I clearly didn’t say he could.

I was very clearly saying if he fits the requirements I’m looking for.

How do the others counter the fact they don’t have the runs on the board?

Common issue when applying and hiring.

But go on. Keep twisting it

 

[stavro#4]

Those nightmares will never leave.. I’ll have dinner and suddenly drop the wine cos I see a Cho reflection.. he haunts us all.

Ghost sometimes struggles to get it up or just randomly goes flaccid mid act because of Cho.

 

[Joffaboy]

Yze or Harvey wont interview as they know who is in the box seat.

 

[King_Steele]

 

[plugger66]

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I hope the people making the decisions don't have the narrow and limited viewpoint that you have that Ross Lyon is the only possible coach out there who can create standards.

lets say there are 20 questions we ask and he gives us the 20 answers we wanted to hear then why going looking for someone else.

 

[Saint Shags]

Surely it’s three max.

Who knows. If though it is a long term deal. You better believe that I'm expecting to be contending. Because if people aren't expecting that over that period of time then we can talk about mediocrity with St Kilda followers

 

[BrutThough]

I clearly didn’t say he could.

I was very clearly saying if he fits the requirements I’m looking for.

How do the others counter the fact they don’t have the runs on the board?

Common issue when applying and hiring.

But go on. Keep twisting it

Is runs on the board a requirement now?

Sure they won't have the highlights from over 8 years ago but given they haven't been out of a coaches box for years and have been coaching the modern game, they would have other assets they could bring to the role as a first time coach which almost all premiership coaches have been in recent history,

 

[bergholt]

Yet those conversations need to happy before any senior coach gets the job.

This one should be no different.

Yeah, and as I said because the numbers are so small, the conversations could easily have already happened over Friday and the weekend. And no, I'm not sure we gain much by having a candidate look at the list and say "oh yeah looks like Steeley and Sincs are your best players, would be good to get some more A-graders, blah blah blah".