Thoughts About The Richmond Game

[macca23]

Just on a personal greed note

Do you think I was urging the boys along in that last quarter not to ease up and to turn it into a thrash match!!

Reason: Because I snapped up the $3.10 for the Crows to win by 40 points or more from Centrebet!!

Thankyou very muchly boys!!

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Just on a personal greed note

Do you think I was urging the boys along in that last quarter not to ease up and to turn it into a thrash match!!

Reason: Because I snapped up the $3.10 for the Crows to win by 40 points or more from Centrebet!!

Thankyou very muchly boys!!

The usual grand was it Macca?

 

[macca23]

The usual grand was it Macca?

I wish!!

Put it this way, I'm still going to work on Monday!!

 

[LiaLovesRoo32]

Was a great win and to see the forward line (ie Scott Welsh and Ian Perrie) both do well just made me smile even more. In the last quarter when Welshy was going for his 8th I thought it was his 5th....not sure how I missed the other three (perhaps it had somehting to do with mr beer ??). Oh well we won and won big so this has to be a good thing

(Just on a personal note I have had this footy card of Roo in my purse for ages and I finally got him to sign it tonight Thanks LL for giving it to me )

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He may not be the messiah but neither is he the crippled leper waiting to be cleansed by the messiah which is what you normally portray him to be.

Good come back

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Thanks for the explanaton! - but doesnt really answer what you first asserted. I realise now its a case of a couple of players that you dont think fit into your gameplan and you are looking at ways to justify this by clutching at straws whenever you can. Neil Craig must be telling lies then when he talks about them and never seems to indicate they aren't in his plans - when he keeps picking them.

Let me explain things a little clearer for you:

1. Is Neil Craig going to publicly say any player is simply a fill in player - NO

2. He keeps picking them because ATM there is no=one better to replace them with from the SANFL

3. If Knights keeps getting 40 possessions in the SANFL he is going to have to get a game - who would you replace from tonights game for Knights or Van Berlo

It may not happen this year but next year ???? - and don't forget Stiffy to come back as well!!!

 

[Tas]

The only umpiring decision I noticed was towards HT where the umpire gave a freekick to Simmonds for pushing Bassett over? Got no idea why that was paid. Apart from that the umpiring was generally good.

I think all our goals bar two (Skippy and Mattner) came from set shots as well. Good to see NC keep the faith in Welsh.

There were two groups in the contest, Bassett and Simmonds and I think Richo and his opponent... Simmonds was shoved in the back which forced him to cannon into Bassett. They showed it on the screen about 4 or 5 times and was pretty obvious.

 

[crowie]

Let me explain things a little clearer for you:

1. Is Neil Craig going to publicly say any player is simply a fill in player - NO

2. He keeps picking them because ATM there is no=one better to replace them with from the SANFL

3. If Knights keeps getting 40 possessions in the SANFL he is going to have to get a game - who would you replace from tonights game for Knights or Van Berlo

It may not happen this year but next year ???? - and don't forget Stiffy to come back as well!!!

Some very good problems to be having.

 

[Tigerland]

Well played Crows. Too good in the end. Disappointed to say the least with the effort of some of the Tigers.
Your midfield and forward line killed us.
Not convinced the Crows are a Premiership threat although I think you'll be playing finals and I don't think Richmond will.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Some very good problems to be having.

Yes, we've had an unbelievable run with injury - probably the best in the clubs history.

Lets prey it continues

Having some really good performances and feedback on our young players in the SANFL - Maric, Knights, Nye, Van Berlo all getting very positive feedback

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Well played Crows. Too good in the end. Disappointed to say the least with the effort of some of the Tigers.
Your midfield and forward line killed us.
Not convinced the Crows are a Premiership threat although I think you'll be playing finals and I don't think Richmond will.

Thanks

Seen you guys a few times this year - definately the worse you have played - the mid season break is very timely for you to re gather.

 

[Tas]

Just my thoughts on the umpiring, i thought it was pretty bad because it lacked consistancy. Richmond got some free kicks which were very soft early on but Adelaide did have a lot of sloppy tackling attempts, alot of it was technically illegal, be it too high or in the back, etc.

Adelaide did not get many of the soft or technical frees that were paid to Richmond in the first three quarters. Mind you, they missed a lot of really obvious frees to both sides.

People do not ask for much, just want consistant decisions made. Call it high or do not call it high, just call it consistantly like that. It wasn't consistant.

Richmond got violated in the last quarter, it was an obvious attempt to even up the frees, something they claim they do not do but they were just making stuff up. It didn't have a huge impact on the result because the vast majority of the frees they give in the midfield or defense.

Adelaide's use of the ball was very nice. Richmond were very sloppy, over did the handball and put themselves under a ton of pressure. Adelaide put the pressure on nicely.

I noticed a heavy congestion of the the Richmond forward line, was partly due to the Tigers being very slow to move the ball forward but at times the game got ugly to watch. Overall it was a great result for the Crows, well done.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I noticed a heavy congestion of the the Richmond forward line, was partly due to the Tigers being very slow to move the ball forward but at times the game got ugly to watch. Overall it was a great result for the Crows, well done.

Correct, the Tigers were very slow moving the ball, which is unlike them this year, and gave our midfielders ample time to flood into their backlines.

Our movement was quick decisive and more often down the centre corridor - yes a great result.

 

[macca23]

Just my thoughts on the umpiring, i thought it was pretty bad because it lacked consistancy. Richmond got some free kicks which were very soft early on but Adelaide did have a lot of sloppy tackling attempts, alot of it was technically illegal, be it too high or in the back, etc.

Adelaide did not get many of the soft or technical frees that were paid to Richmond in the first three quarters. Mind you, they missed a lot of really obvious frees to both sides.

People do not ask for much, just want consistant decisions made. Call it high or do not call it high, just call it consistantly like that. It wasn't consistant.

Richmond got violated in the last quarter, it was an obvious attempt to even up the frees, something they claim they do not do but they were just making stuff up. It didn't have a huge impact on the result because the vast majority of the frees they give in the midfield or defense.

I hate bringing the subject of the white maggots up, but that first 2 and a half quarters when Richmond received 18 or 19 frees to 4 was nothing short of a fkg disgrace and bordered on cheating by 2 of the umpires. We were frequently pinged for holding the ball when the only way we could have got rid of it was to swallow it and pass it through our backsides.

After that, particularly in the last quarter, the umpiring bordered on cheating again when we were paid about 5 or 6 fictitious frees in an attempt to cover up their Vic-centric bias from earlier on.

No it didn't effect the result of the game, but performances like that are not acceptable and I think that both sides should lodge a protest. Adelaide for the first 2 and a half quarters and Richmond for the last quarter.

Incompetent performances like that from a player would see "Never to be played again" stamped on their forehead!!

 

[Nige_Bix]

Let me explain things a little clearer for you:

1. Is Neil Craig going to publicly say any player is simply a fill in player - NO

2. He keeps picking them because ATM there is no=one better to replace them with from the SANFL

3. If Knights keeps getting 40 possessions in the SANFL he is going to have to get a game - who would you replace from tonights game for Knights or Van Berlo

It may not happen this year but next year ???? - and don't forget Stiffy to come back as well!!!

Well I guess he won't but the way he has spoken of them has been positive and glowing at times. I dont think that Knights and VanBerlo will get picked unless there are injuries and - touch wood - this has been a good season for us in comparision with previous years and other sides atm.

In the SANFL we dont have other players on our list that are demanding places thats for sure but imo these two are playing ok and fulfilling a role. Down the track we will see those payers and others, and the two 'S's in the same side when - sadly - and - i hate to think of it - the likes of Roo, Macca, Edwards etc will retire.

I think Knights and VanBerlo are great pick ups and will be terrific players for us and I am looking forward to seeing how they develop and as they mature become excellent afl players. I would certainly prefer them to be selected in the side if opportunites do arise rather than the likes of Massie, Bode etc.

It will be interesting to see how they fit Stiffy back in and who makes way for him - and someone should! - probably Doughty if they're all fit.

Then again I think Birdman will get a holiday - so there is a chance for sum1!

 

[slappy]

I hate bringing the subject of the white maggots up, but that first 2 and a half quarters when Richmond received 18 or 19 frees to 4 was nothing short of a fkg disgrace and bordered on cheating by 2 of the umpires. We were frequently pinged for holding the ball when the only way we could have got rid of it was to swallow it and pass it through our backsides.

After that, particularly in the last quarter, the umpiring bordered on cheating again when we were paid about 5 or 6 fictitious frees in an attempt to cover up their Vic-centric bias from earlier on.

No it didn't effect the result of the game, but performances like that are not acceptable and I think that both sides should lodge a protest. Adelaide for the first 2 and a half quarters and Richmond for the last quarter.

Incompetent performances like that from a player would see "Never to be played again" stamped on their forehead!!

i dont think its humanly possible to make a more accurate post than this.

anyway im looking forward to wednesdays comedy hour with derek humphrey smith, about 20 ridiculous decisions to justify ... should be fun.

 

[Crow-mosone]

14 possessions to Coughlan - Shirley's opponent. Very quiet for a man who often gets in the 30's.

12 possessions to Shirley the tagger.

That's a very good result for the Crows.

Dare we say that result, was very much a key part of the gameplan?

 

[beartoo]

It's good that NC doesn't read this board, otherwise he might not have played Welsh.
Thought Bock played a great game. Hentschell was harder at the ball and man than earlier in the year IMO. Perrie played a blinder. Good signs.

 

[Truck Rutten]

Burton should go. Ran completely past the ball to hit someone in the head with their head down. Will go for 1-3.

Crows destroying them at the moment. Similar to the spitting game from last year.

Just saw a replay for the first time. Richmond player was pretty much upright, but with the game as soft as it is these days it will still get looked at.

 

[Truck Rutten]

I suppose it is the mentality that free kick counts should always be even. Well it shouldn't be. Just shows that one side is indiciplined if they have a high free kick against tally - in the umpire's view.

This wasn't the case in last nights game. The umpiring was blatantly shoddy....pinging us for stuff that Richmond players got away with, soft frees that should have been let go, giving Richmond a free when it should have gone to us etc. Nothing to do with poor discipline from the Crows. Possibly the most inept umpiring display I've ever seen. No one expects the free kick counts to be even, but I don't think it's too much to ask for the umpiring to be fair is it?

 

[Truck Rutten]

Just back from the game and B4 I post some thoughts - The umpiring - didn't notice them at all - in fact thought the game flowed well

Cannot understand the commotion

BTW the Richmond supporters were calling 3AW talkback complaining the reason they lost the game was that the umpires favoured Adelaide.

Both clubs supporters thinking the umpires favoured the other side - does anyone see the irony of that

Have you had your bi-focals checked lately WW? You can't have been at the same game I was at. Honestly I hardly ever feel the need to post about umpiring, but last night was simply deplorable.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Have you had your bi-focals checked lately WW? You can't have been at the same game I was at. Honestly I hardly ever feel the need to post about umpiring, but last night was simply deplorable.

It is a fact though when we have an emotional involvement in the game we see things differently.

I go to neutral games alot and see the supporters going off their tree at umpiring decisions and I cannot see where the umpire has made a bad decision.

I think the official umpire observers stats ove the saeson thus far is approx 85% of decisions are correct.

But as human beings we will ALWAYS get stuck into an umpire simply for the fact that he turned up at the game

 

[Truck Rutten]

I hate bringing the subject of the white maggots up, but that first 2 and a half quarters when Richmond received 18 or 19 frees to 4 was nothing short of a fkg disgrace and bordered on cheating by 2 of the umpires. We were frequently pinged for holding the ball when the only way we could have got rid of it was to swallow it and pass it through our backsides.

After that, particularly in the last quarter, the umpiring bordered on cheating again when we were paid about 5 or 6 fictitious frees in an attempt to cover up their Vic-centric bias from earlier on.

No it didn't effect the result of the game, but performances like that are not acceptable and I think that both sides should lodge a protest. Adelaide for the first 2 and a half quarters and Richmond for the last quarter.

Incompetent performances like that from a player would see "Never to be played again" stamped on their forehead!!

Excellent post macca23. Agree 100%.

 

[AlwaysCrows]

The one that got me hot under the collar was when Bassett came accros the pack for a spoil, got absolutely CRUNCHED by Simmonds and Simmonds gets the free

Something also has to be done about holding the ball decisions. Players going for the ball are getting penalised

There was nothing in it in normal play, but in slow motion it distorted to an almost obvious free given away by Bock. A bloody soft one i agree. The umps let the ball stay in play longer than normal and it seemed as if they wanted to give every chance for the ball to come out and if it didn't the player was penalised. The crows tackled hard for the ball and obviously more often than not were at the bottom with it and therefore penalised hard for it. I'm just glad we came away with the 4 points and a great percentage boost!

 

[Dolemite]

It is a fact though when we have an emotional involvement in the game we see things differently.

I go to neutral games alot and see the supporters going off their tree at umpiring decisions and I cannot see where the umpire has made a bad decision.

I think the official umpire observers stats ove the saeson thus far is approx 85% of decisions are correct.

But as human beings we will ALWAYS get stuck into an umpire simply for the fact that he turned up at the game

How do you explain Gasper being caught twice holding the ball and not paid? Both times he had a helluva lot of prior opportunity and it was play on! Total crap.