Kane is a flog
He only saying that because of our draft picks and would be thinking #15 for ladhams
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He only saying that because of our draft picks and would be thinking #15 for ladhams
There were people freaking out about Tom Lynch as well. People protesting out side their Union. People who want to recruit Casboult. Thing I’ve learnt this year is there is a small percentage of dumb as **** people and simple explanations and logic don’t work on them.
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He’s not even worth 115
aghh a very good deduction my dear watson, but its 2021 , we no longer have the 2017 version and our winged keel of yesteryear , Prestia shedda and lambo barely fired a shot between them in '21. with luck we should reasonably expect a much improved output in '22 however at their age, injury becomes more frequent and recovery time longer so we cant bet on itI dunno if their midfield beats ours at its best, as good as the Dees are currently playing...
Petracca, Oliver and Gawn are fantastic, but would you have Petracca over 2017 Dusty? A resounding no way. Would you have Oliver over 2017 Cotchin? Maybe for sheer number of possessions but otherwise no way, Cotchin was in everything, willed himself and what he lost in possessions he made up for in everything else in absolute spades, he is kinda paying for it now really given his body is starting to go. Gawn over Nank, yes, but different players anyway, Nank was/is huge for us. Then there's Viney, we have Prestia. Harmes, we had Edwards, pretty sure I know who I'd prefer. Langdon? I'll have Lambert thanks, how often he got away from contests into space was amazing. We'll always rate our own more highly but you can't deny how good our players are/were. I'd take our 2017 midfield over their current midfield for sure. Well, in the end at least we have the runs on the board with 3 flags and a prelim, let's see how they go.
But anyway it wasn't necessarily about comparing them to us, although yes, their best and worst does indeed seem smaller/less frequent, but that's why I brought up the quality of the league in general. Did Melbourne have as tough a group of teams to overcome compared to us? I'd argue not. They have some of the same teams up and about (Cats, Giants) who are now lesser versions of their 2017 selves I'd argue.
Anyway, hard to ever really know, was more just food for thought
was great insight wasn't it , as we've bantered dimma outlined RT releases grimes and balta to do their thang , its a great plan
ladhams best chance for PA would be low 30s , prob take it too he's prob on decent coin . remember after he kicked that goal in the pre lim and bruuuuuuce said should he be worried about that report for the GF ,,,,,no i dont think he should bruce
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Bruce going the early crow thank **** that gimp doesn't commentate anymore
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Fully agree with what you're saying and I was not trying to suggest that it's simply weight and height that makes the difference. However when you do look at them as a whole, the differences among our group certainly stand out. We have been able to get away with having a few undersized types rolling through because as a group they worked so well together complimenting each others strengths and covering for weaknesses.
As you said when a few of those players went missing or started performing below their best we got exposed. A bonus to that is we got to see Graham step up, Baker showed some promise further up the ground & Bolton had a breakout before hitting the wall. Then there were the glimpses we got of Ralphsmith Ross RCD Dow and to a lesser extent Martyn. Those kids if developed properly and allowed to play in their true midfield positions should hold us in good stead in a few years time. At the same time, there is no reason why we can't see a couple of them step in to replace aging players like Cotchin & Edwards.
Add in a couple more kids in the draft around the 185cm/82kg (give or take a few cms/kgs) mark and as I said we'll have the foundation of our next midfield unit. The bonus is that we've still got the stars around for them to learn off of.
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I never put that forward as a solution merely stating a fact. Reality is Garth and Miller could both leave and would only affect our Magoo's. The club just recruited Tarrant that shows their belief that Miller isnt up to being Astbury's replacement. It's hilarious how people slag off best 22 players on here all the time calling for the club to get rid of them when they're proven players yet there's an unjustified group of posters pumping up Miller's tyres on here. Hey he must have some pretty loyal mates or family members as posters I guess.
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Comes down to the suggestion that we trade for someone like Mitchell or other ready made midfielder, while others are suggesting we use Baker which naturally leads to the discussion about whether our own young midfielders are adequate for the long term.
In all of the 2017 finals pre and post match shows I've seen from Fox he openly talks about being a Tigers supporter and what a flag would mean to him.
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Back to trade talk.
Doesn't really involve us at the moment but
Sam Petrevski-Seton has requested a trade to WCE and Jordan Dawson has chosen Adelaide as his preferred destination.
Doesn't really involve us at the moment but
Sam Petrevski-Seton has requested a trade to WCE and Jordan Dawson has chosen Adelaide as his preferred destination.
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Wow the SPP one is a shock
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Hi Moppey,
Just wondering what you think of Jack Williams. He looks a good size and uses his body really well for a young fella. Is van Rooyen a lot better or do you rate them pretty close?
Just wondering what you think of Jack Williams. He looks a good size and uses his body really well for a young fella. Is van Rooyen a lot better or do you rate them pretty close?
I have never once pumped his tyres, go back over all the crap if you're mad enough. I have mentioned a while ago that he has some good athletic attributes, better than most key backs. I have said we should have had a look to see if he is any good when we had a chance, but we didn't because we were hanging on by th skin of our teeth and didn't take a chance.
I have said all along we have no depth in the key backs, zero besides maybe Miller and a very young Bigoa. All I am saying is that getting Tarrant might tip Miller out, which would give us Garthwaite, which is no depth in a key back at all. Tarrant would have been a great get at 29 year, but at 33 next year it is a gamble. That is not irrational or unjustified, given how many of our 30+ players missed with injury last year, pretty much all of them, it is not far fetched at all.
And who's to say that Miller wouldn't make it. At his age Broad was running round the WAFL and for his first couple of years did nothing much other than good defensive work. Miller is 5cm taller, just as fast and a beautiful kick, what's not to like. How do you develop young players if you don't back them.
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Williams is better. VR butchers the ball under pressure
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The Dawson decision may involve us. Could see Adelaide wanting to trade 4 and 23 for 7 and 15 to help get a Dawson deal done. If there was a player we wanted to take before Hawthorn/Freo we might be into it.
Wow never heard Van Rooyen accused of Butchering the ball
And whats your opinion on Williams speed and agility ?
If both on the board at our pick #15 im taking JVR
C'mon, any player wanting to exit out of that shithole is hardly a shock to the system.
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Was thinking the same thing. Reckon I’d be happy with pick 4 (6) and then 3 in the 20’s. Might come down to if we can snag 20 of Norf - even if 26 goes back, &/or 17/18 off dogs .
mid teens seems about right for Dawson.
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Pick 50+ or we'll trade Naish for him.
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JVR does butcher the ball - watch the replay of WA v SA from 3 weeks ago.
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