List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 7

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[tora tora tora]

Hipwood hasn't taken the step from being an opportunistic, out the back forward (a bit like Josh Jenkins).

JUH is already playing much differently, taking steps to be a power forward. He will get much bigger.

there's no comparison.

I feel like I have watched a bit of hipwood over the years. Daniher is the out of the back cheap goals type ..not really him.
We used to play Broad on hin cos he's mobile. Can kick a ways too.

Sadly it was Balta he had a night out against. 2 or 3 Marks in front of Balta.

Lynch transition is a bit tricky. If Lynch stays on the park for his contact years then Kosi, Gibcus,, Fawcett will be enough.

No place for JUH.

 

[Coach_Required]

We need to breed better dammit

Our female side will be dominating in 20 years though lol

 

[Tortured Tiger]

I feel like I have watched a bit of hipwood over the years. Daniher is the out of the back cheap goals type ..not really him.
We used to play Broad on hin cos he's mobile. Can kick a ways too.

Sadly it was Balta he had a night out against. 2 or 3 Marks in front of Balta.

Lynch transition is a bit tricky. If Lynch stays on the park for his contact years then Kosi, Gibcus,, Fawcett will be enough.

No place for JUH.

I think we could find a spot for JUH, you never knock back a player with that sort of talent.

 

[NZ_Tiger]

JUH will be good. He moves well and jumps hard at the ball with some excellent hang time. He missed a lot chances to with his inaccuracy, but could have been easily dragged a mediocre dogs deep into the finals.


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[THE_GUN]

To be fair it's still early days for JUH in his career as a forward...
But I do get the impression, from watching his games on TV, that currently he is a good, not yet a very good, second key forward.
Just needs to be surrounded by forwards for JUH to get off the defenders leash and be favoured by the umpires call to perform!
Has shown improvement in his craft!
Confidence is a big issue, like all forwards, but it's still hard to predict JUH's football career trajectory...but he is certainly no Buddy or JR8 yet!

Jumarra is 197cm 91 kgs and is 5-6 kgs short (muscle) of being that brute foward
and he is just 21 years old

I would very very Happily throw $10 mil over 10 years at him next year
Its only $150k more than what Jack was on 10 years ago

 

[tigerfan1961]

Jumarra is 197cm 91 kgs and is 5-6 kgs short (muscle) of being that brute foward
and he is just 21 years old

I would very very Happily throw $10 mil over 10 years at him next year
Its only $150k more than what Jack was on 10 years ago

That’s going back to the bad old days! Not only would he cost a bomb financially, but they’d demand all our decent picks to get him across.
Big no from me as I’d rather we save the cap space, and use all of our high end draft picks, that I reckon we will target from clubs having FS and academy players, to replenish the list properly. Selling the farm for one player is madness, it’s just a sugar hit and we need to look at the big picture. No guarantees players we select will be stars, but I’d much rather grow our own and go down that path. Selling it all for one player is short sighted.

 

[Lacustrus]

That’s going back to the bad old days! Not only would he cost a bomb financially, but they’d demand all our decent picks to get him across.
Big no from me as I’d rather we save the cap space, and use all of our high end draft picks, that I reckon we will target from clubs having FS and academy players, to replenish the list properly. Selling the farm for one player is madness, it’s just a sugar hit and we need to look at the big picture. No guarantees players we select will be stars, but I’d much rather grow our own and go down that path. Selling it all for one player is short sighted.

With nearly 20 clubs in the comp, the chance to get as a decent KPF in the draft is very slim.

Worth 2 first rounders and 10M @ 10 years

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

With nearly 20 clubs in the comp, the chance to get as a decent KPF in the draft is very slim.

Worth 2 first rounders and 10M @ 10 years

JUH may eventually be worth it...but what a risk for a club to take!

 

[THE THIN MAN]

With nearly 20 clubs in the comp, the chance to get as a decent KPF in the draft is very slim.

Worth 2 first rounders and 10M @ 10 years

One serious injury away from being a bad trade.

Better to take our picks to the draft and minimise our risk across multiple players.

 

[tigerfan1961]

One serious injury away from being a bad trade.

Better to take our picks to the draft and minimise our risk across multiple players.

And use free agency to fill gaps as we have done previously with Lynchy.

 

[tora tora tora]

I think we could find a spot for JUH, you never knock back a player with that sort of talent.

Dusty money is available. He's playing quite well, deserves 700 800.

We could afford JUH but its Lynch watch really next year.

It doesn't feel like he'll play beyond his contact. Will yze use 3 KPF? That'd be great.

But Kosi only 3 years and can play KPD too.

IF Lynch stays fit and game plan kicks in quick. Then the current second or third KPF will be a success

It should translate ro wins. The list is okay.
Enough mids and defender.
Enough small fwds.

We go backwards? I'd imagine they trade out heavily for a rebuild.

JUH will get snapped up, there's always demand for KPF.

He will wait until mid next year you'd reckon to really start thinking about his new club.

 

[Karp3_dm]

Why are we even discussing JUH coming to Richmond?

We are zero chance of getting him, he’s locked and loaded for Buddy’s locker in Sydney

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

From what I’ve seen he’s a bit timid to be one of the great KPF’s … Is he the next ‘big thing’, or the next Eric Hipwood?

JUH 2023 averages v Eric Hipwood season 3 (2018) averages:

Disposals: 11.3 v 10.6
Marks: 5.2 v 4.2
Goals: 1.5 v 1.7
GA’s: 0.6 v 0.6
CM: 1.4 v 0.8
SI’s: 6.1 v 5.0
Mts : 205m v 220m
I50’s: 2.5 v 2.9
Tackles: 1.0 v 1.1

I thought at 203cm Hipwood was going to be anything .. and he’s developed into a mediocre tall forward. They are similar builds and play similar games, with very little ‘crashing’ of packs and maybe a little too one dimensional.

I’d love JUH at Richmond as he’s what we need. But I’d like to see one more season before handing out any sort of godfather offer.


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Wouldn't be our type if Dimma was still with us.
Who knows under yze.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

One serious injury away from being a bad trade.

Better to take our picks to the draft and minimise our risk across multiple players.

Draftees are not immune too long-term injuries. Look at Gibcus.
Big contract is obviously the difference but on field the risk is the same

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

Why are we even discussing JUH coming to Richmond?

We are zero chance of getting him, he’s locked and loaded for Buddy’s locker in Sydney

Sydney made the dogs shit by making a dummy bid for Naughton knowing their real target is Hagen , I agree I reckon he'll be a swan.

 

[Bojangles17]

Why are we even discussing JUH coming to Richmond?

We are zero chance of getting him, he’s locked and loaded for Buddy’s locker in Sydney

That’s my bet too , swans used the Trojan horse last year forcing a 10m naughton deal knowing juh is the one they want

 

[_RT_]

Target Marshall from Port if we're looking for another ready made KPF and take our picks to the draft and replenish the midfield stocks with more top end talent.

If we're looking to draft and develop our own KPF, then get ourselves the best possible picks we can for the draft and target the best available KPF in the draft, and maybe look at a potential free agent to add to our midfield.

 

[THE_GUN]

That’s going back to the bad old days! Not only would he cost a bomb financially, but they’d demand all our decent picks to get him across.
Big no from me as I’d rather we save the cap space, and use all of our high end draft picks, that I reckon we will target from clubs having FS and academy players, to replenish the list properly. Selling the farm for one player is madness, it’s just a sugar hit and we need to look at the big picture. No guarantees players we select will be stars, but I’d much rather grow our own and go down that path. Selling it all for one player is short sighted.

We are in the window imo

We have a good defence with Balta , Young , Vlastuin , Short , Rioli , Gibcus , Brown and backups in Miller, Tresize , etc

Midfield : Hopper , Prestia , Bolton , Martin , Taranto , Graham , Sonsie and some younger talent coming through

Rucks : Nankervis , Ryan , Naismith and other part times to run through

Foward : Lynch , Kosi , Bauer ------------ We are missing that 2nd/3rd player that can tear the game apart

Small Foward : This are is what we have question marks on but we have so much unknown/under developed potential
Cumberland , Clarke , Coulthard , MRioli , Campbell , Smith , Green

60 Goals from a JUH is the missing piece that could snag the next flag

 

[tigerfan1961]

We are in the window imo

We have a good defence with Balta , Young , Vlastuin , Short , Rioli , Gibcus , Brown and backups in Miller, Tresize , etc

Midfield : Hopper , Prestia , Bolton , Martin , Taranto , Graham , Sonsie and some younger talent coming through

Rucks : Nankervis , Ryan , Naismith and other part times to run through

Foward : Lynch , Kosi , Bauer ------------ We are missing that 2nd/3rd player that can tear the game apart

Small Foward : This are is what we have question marks on but we have so much unknown/under developed potential
Cumberland , Clarke , Coulthard , MRioli , Campbell , Smith , Green

60 Goals from a JUH is the missing piece that could snag the next flag

Agree with some of what you said but I think our midfield needs some work and future proofing, and the ‘24 draft can potentially achieve that.
It’s said to be a particularly strong draft for mids so personally, I’d be trading some of our picks to get higher up the order to achieve that outcome.

 

[LTT]

That’s going back to the bad old days! Not only would he cost a bomb financially, but they’d demand all our decent picks to get him across.
Big no from me as I’d rather we save the cap space, and use all of our high end draft picks, that I reckon we will target from clubs having FS and academy players, to replenish the list properly. Selling the farm for one player is madness, it’s just a sugar hit and we need to look at the big picture. No guarantees players we select will be stars, but I’d much rather grow our own and go down that path. Selling it all for one player is short sighted.

In the last 30 years we have drafted two champion kpf’s. Jack Riewoldt and Matthew Richardson. Actually make that 1 kpf because Richardson was a father/son. When you think about how many first round picks we have wasted then 2 first round picks for JUH would be a bargain

 

[Lacustrus]

In the last 30 years we have drafted two champion kpf’s. Jack Riewoldt and Matthew Richardson. Actually make that 1 kpf because Richardson was a father/son. When you think about how many first round picks we have wasted then 2 first round picks for JUH would be a bargain

I think our recruiting team will do the right thing and make a play.
JUH is loyal , but will want equitable treatment from the dogs (as per Naughton).
A big chance to move.

 

[Coach_Required]

Why are we even discussing JUH coming to Richmond?

We are zero chance of getting him, he’s locked and loaded for Buddy’s locker in Sydney

So when he signs with someone else it gives our doomsdayers something to complaint about

 

[Groupie_]

I think our recruiting team will do the right thing and make a play.
JUH is loyal , but will want equitable treatment from the dogs (as per Naughton).
A big chance to move.

isnt he mates with mrj? mrj could put in a good word for the club before he gets delisted

 

[THE_GUN]

Agree with some of what you said but I think our midfield needs some work and future proofing, and the ‘24 draft can potentially achieve that.
It’s said to be a particularly strong draft for mids so personally, I’d be trading some of our picks to get higher up the order to achieve that outcome.

The Majic beans theory haa

Mids are easy to get but Top A grade KPF not so easy

 

[tony__montana]

we'll never get him - likely will be in sydney on a 10+ year deal or will stay at the dogs

Reckon dogs will lose JUH, Smith and English - English to go back to Perth