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Warnock update: According to Denham
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Blue Dawn
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Be prepared to be surprised my friend. We made $3 mill last year and i think the Weagles made around $3.8 mill. It's to be expected that we'll be up on last years figure and they'll be down.
While there's no doubt that WCE is in the big league of clubs the odds are very strong that over the next few years, particularly if/when we sort out our unprofitable 'home ground' arrangements, the Blues will be back where we belong as an unsurpassed Victorian powerhouse. 50,000 members and higher attendances than Collingwood (if we move to the MCG) is not out of the question by 2011.
Exactly. It's just unbelievable how poor a deal we get from those stupid TD games - it's a complete rort. The WA regional franchises get bucket-loads more money for the same crowds at that silly Subi stadium. Once we break these TD contracts, the full financial power of the Blues will be unleashed. We'll even probably better the Freagles this year despite this massive handicap.
I also believe that this is true, but like Judd last year I think we traded fairly and the outcome was "reasonable" given the circumstances. Icke, Swann etc will bargain hard but fair, probably the outcome will be slightly in our favour, but thats what you get with an out of contract player keen to leave who nominates a club of choice.
Your hypothesising is fine, but you have to remember warnock was pick #42?, and whilst he may have lots of potential he has yet to show much.
So if Browne or Armfield were desperate to 'go home' and have yet to show much as well (even though the signs are good) maybe CFC would have to take an early 2nd rounder, which is the same deal for Warnock.
As for Bower he was #20 and has shown great improvement at AFL level and would definately be worth more than Warnock, and the $$$ for Gibbs would be 5x that of Warnock, so you have missed the point there im afraid.
i can see the tigers giving pick 8 up for warnock.but the deal would be something like
pick 8 + 26 +42 to freo
warnock + 22 + 38 to richmond (not sure if they are the exact picks )
i would consider that a fair deal for both clubs because we will be desperate for a ruckman in 2 years time if patto , graham & putt dont come on BUT i wouldnt want to pay him the 1.4 mill thats been reported.
i think it's something to do with the fact that trolls (ie parrot) gloat over the fact that you are going to try and rip us off and taunt fans (ie moo) who come on here offering reasonable suggestions.
Freagle supporter, it's not a matter of "gloating". There are just clear cut trade rules, and the fact is Freo are in a 2nd-round-pick-at-best-or-nothing situation. It's not a matter of what you or I want. It's just a fact of how the trade system works with an out of contract player. You can bleat on about how you want a 6th pick plus this or that, but it's just not in the rhelm of reality. Freo should be delighted if they managed to get a 24 pick, because the reality is it could be a whole lot worse. And don't bring up your past trade disasters - you have no-one else to blame but your own incompetent list managers/negotiators.
Apparently Carlton are hoping to get the Warnock deal done by Tuesday of trade week to have a crack at Kerr so plan to offer pick 24 + a player to Fremantle within the next week hoping to sign off on it early in trade week.
Freagle supporter, it's not a matter of "gloating". There are just clear cut trade rules, and the fact is Freo are in a 2nd-round-pick-at-best-or-nothing situation. It's not a matter of what you or I want. It's just a fact of how the trade system works with an out of contract player. You can bleat on about how you want a 6th pick plus this or that, but it's just not in the rhelm of reality. Freo should be delighted if they managed to get a 24 pick, because the reality is it could be a whole lot worse. And don't bring up your past trade disasters - you have no-one else to blame but your own incompetent list managers/negotiators.
thankyou for proving my point as i thought you would. your witness bosun.
What was your point - that you have no idea how a trade works with an out-of-contract-player? Glad to be of service.
my point was that you're a shit-stirrer who in real life couldn't possibly be as one-eyed or obnoxious as you like to portray yourself on this website. maybe its because you were bullied as a child and now feel that you can try and get your own back without fear of any real retribution, but its because of posters like you that this thread, and the equivalent thread on the freo board, have been reduced to childish name calling and chest beating rather than valuable discussion.
i'm just glad you are in no way associated with my club.
lol. Freagle supporter, no point having a hissy fit. If you don't understand the trade rules, go educate yourself, and then you'll be able to make a sensible contribution. There is a fundamental difference between a player being in contract Vs out of contract in terms of the parameters of the negotiation. A simple point that seems to have escaped you and many of your Freagle Friends.
If Richmond considered giving up pick 8 as part of a deal to get Warnock (hypothetically speaking, given it would seem Warnock has ruled out going to Richmond), that would tell the football world that the recruiting woes that have haunted the Tigers, at times over the last 6-7 years, weren't necessarily the sole responsibility of Greg Miller, but were far more deep-seeded than first thought.
Moo
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It is interesting how we look at drafts.
If the Tiges were chasing a ruckman and saw the draft going
Watts, Rich, Naitanui, Hurley, Harltett, Ziebell, Sidebottom, Vickery ....
If it was the NBA - they could do a sign and trade of Vickery for Warnock on draft day and most people would not blink an eyelid at this.
If you were given the choice of Warnock or Vickery - who would you honestly pull the trigger on? Warnock will get on the field faster and is less of a risk.
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If Warnock is less of a risk, why are your supporters so hell bent on getting an earlier pick for him?
You know the cream rises to the top, so you're trying to get a better player with a top ten pick.
Pick eight could also be Steele Sidebottom who might reach a higher level than Warnock in the next two years.
Warnock is still two years away from his peak when he's 95 kgs and was easily brushed aside by King.
Vickery will be a better or more valuable player when he can play forward and ruck according to "draft watchers".
Warnock can only play in the ruck.
Vickery will give his club a higher return in time if he's as good as they say.
Warnock is worth pick 17 and onwards in this draft, but we're not going to get that pick when clubs won't trade those selections in the last uncompromised draft.
Take 24 and run if you get it.
It will be a **** act if you send Warnock to Melbourne for nothing if he plays hardball.
And Freo will be a laughing stock again after trade week.
Carlton will do what Hawthorn did after we kept Thornton and move by using pick 24 on the best available player who fits our needs.
24 and Armfield should be our last offer.
Take it or leave it.
Give it a rest.lol. Freagle supporter, no point having a hissy fit. If you don't understand the trade rules, go educate yourself, and then you'll be able to make a sensible contribution. There is a fundamental difference between a player being in contract Vs out of contract in terms of the parameters of the negotiation. A simple point that seems to have escaped you and many of your Freagle Friends.
You're just being a huge pain in the arse and trolling when your team is unlisted.
Change it to Carlton or **** off.
Wouldn't even think about offering that TG. Armfield is the only genuinely speedy defensive minded player we have on our list. Would be very disappointed if Carlton offered him up.
Source = your imagination.
Actually it was reported on Ch10 in Perth. Blues and Dockers would try and nut out a deal over the next week (or something similar).
Blue Dawn
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No f@#king way is he worth #24 AND Army. It's #24 OR Army - although i really wouldn't want to lose Armfield under any circumstance.
thylacine60
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When you consider players that dance on the fringe for years it would seem a little ridiculous to clear Army after he has just slotted in so well so quickly. Browne the same. Fair Dinkum, they'll be letting Emu go next.
if there is a player that fits your needs in richmonds case ruckman this year, the chances are that if available richmond will take vickery with pick 8 so it becomes a case of vickery or warnock & change the pros in favour of warnock are that he will be ready to go in 2009/2010 as to vickery taking another 3-5 years.
richmond have already shown they are very , very close to the finals
and will consider that either way pick 8 will be used for a ruckman
atm warnock does look more likely.
you never know what you will get in the draft, could be a fiora,walker,livingston,jon there are no guarantees.
at least with warnock you have a reasonable idea.
personally i would prefer a kpf but if the people in the know want a ruckman why not warnock. im sure freo & richmond can convince robbie to come to punt road that wont be an issue.
the sticking point will be are richmond prepared to meet 4 years and the 1.4 mill thats been sugested.
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