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whos got the best young list
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I'd take Deledio, Riewoldt and White.
As for matching Richmond's, it doesn't. It shits all over it!
Not me! Well not last time I looked anyway!
I watched every one of Watts' games. You admitted you only watched one.
You lose again, you're just embarrassing yourself.
I'd take Deledio, Riewoldt and White.
As for matching Richmond's, it doesn't. It shits all over it!
dunno about shits all over it but maybe marginally ahead. as a result i have reconsidered my ladder for 2011 and now have ess 15th just ahead of rich
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Edwards is 25, McKinley is not a better option that those listed, at this stage anyway.no room for Edwards or Mckinley?
Who's Black?
Black is Aaron Black, taken at pick 25 in last years draft, apparently slid a bit. Had groin/hip issues this year limiting him to 3 VFL games, in which he had impact on the scoreboard. 6'4, quick, agile, good grab, and kicks well off both sides. Has put on 10 kg's since coming to the club, now up to 88kg's. Operated on late season, back running in preparation for 2011 soon. Very positive reports from inside the club on his potential.
His 27 possesion game vs Brisbane was terrible man. I remember it clearly. You guys got of to a big league then put on a uber flood. 20 of those possessions Watts got were on a wing leaving his man as a loose defender covering the next option. My grandma would of got 27 possesions playing under those tactics. He played as a loose man on the wing
There forward line turds on yours and then some, and your defense turds on theres minus Deledio and Connors. They win the midfield battle hence Richmond > Essendon
Ugh. Switch them around then
Dempsey -> HBF (Hocking)
Hocking -> rover (Jetta)
Jetta -> wing (Dempsey)
Reimers swapped with Zaharakis (which is how they've both been played this year; Zaha as a deep leading small fwd, Reimers as a roaming HFF)
Seriously, you're clutching at straws.
Astbury shows a lot more as a fwd than as a back. We are short on small defenders, which evens it up but I'd still take the Essendon backline in a heartbeat over Richmond's.
As for the forwards, the bolded parts indicate players who have shown something worth contributing to their respective forwardlines. Daniher is versatile like Hurley, not as dynamic though while Carlisle is still touted as a hot prospect. Was rated as the 2nd or 3rd best KPF draftee out of last year's draft.
Their defense turds on ours? What the? Hurley and Pears alone are better than anything they've got.
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I think he got the 'their' and 'your' the wrong way around.
Anyway this is completely arbitrary, but I'd say our posted list would be able to handle the other posted lists (bar Collingwood, although we wouldn't be far off them)
Of course, our problem is that our posted list is only a few players shy of our actual best 22
Anyway this is completely arbitrary, but I'd say our posted list would be able to handle the other posted lists (bar Collingwood, although we wouldn't be far off them)
Of course, our problem is that our posted list is only a few players shy of our actual best 22
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Ok:
Best (defined by a premiership medal) and young (defined as under 24) :
B: A.Toovey (23) N.Brown (22) T.Goldsack (23)
HB: H.Obrien (24) B.Reid (21) D.Thomas (23)
C: S.Wellingham (22) S.Pendlebury (22) S.Sidebottom (19)
HF: D.Beams (20) T.Cloke (23) B. Macaffer (22)
F:J.Blair (20) C.Dawes (22) B.Dick (22 but no medal due to injury)
R: C.Wood (23) J.McCarthy (21) L.Rounds (19) - no medals yet due to:
"Experienced" Followers in: D.Jolly (29) D.Swan (26) L.Ball (26)
Other best 22 players not included due to age bracket: H.Shaw (25), A.Didak (27), A.Krakouer (28), L.Brown (28), L.Davis (29) B.Johnson (29), C.Tarrant (30)
In Summary: Collingwood has the "best" "young" "list" anyway you define it.
Best (defined by a premiership medal) and young (defined as under 24) :
B: A.Toovey (23) N.Brown (22) T.Goldsack (23)
HB: H.Obrien (24) B.Reid (21) D.Thomas (23)
C: S.Wellingham (22) S.Pendlebury (22) S.Sidebottom (19)
HF: D.Beams (20) T.Cloke (23) B. Macaffer (22)
F:J.Blair (20) C.Dawes (22) B.Dick (22 but no medal due to injury)
R: C.Wood (23) J.McCarthy (21) L.Rounds (19) - no medals yet due to:
"Experienced" Followers in: D.Jolly (29) D.Swan (26) L.Ball (26)
Other best 22 players not included due to age bracket: H.Shaw (25), A.Didak (27), A.Krakouer (28), L.Brown (28), L.Davis (29) B.Johnson (29), C.Tarrant (30)
In Summary: Collingwood has the "best" "young" "list" anyway you define it.
Wrong way around
Clutching at straws how Godzke. I said Eagles youngsters arnt the best but overall we are the only team that have our positions filled completely. Essendon have no ruckman (Ryder aint a ruckman, if hes a ruckman then so is Mitch Brown), no FF, no crumbing forwards, no clearance winners and no pace.
The drop of between 6th and 8th is HUGE btw.
lmfao!
You think that 22 your posted has your spine "filled completely"? ****ing lol @ that.
No team is completely filled with their u23s. Not even Collingwood. WCE are by no means more a certainty than Essendon to finish in the 8 any time soon.
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There's a bloke by the name of deledio who is better than any player on your list and I reckon Griffith , although injury prone, and Astbury as KPP's players have shown more in their first year than a lot of other players have , oh and then there's a young bloke who we look like getting in the PSD who chose us over your mob who your coached rated a bit . Don't be so bitter precious !!
Astbury wouldn't get a game infront of:
Hooker, Hurley, Pears and Fletcher in the backline
Whilst Griffiths wouldn't get a game infront of:
Gumbleton, Ryder, Carlisle in the forwardline.
What position do we need to fill then Godzke? Every player I named plays that position week in week out, most at AFL level
All we need is a pacey wingman which we get at pick 4 anyway.
All we need is a pacey wingman which we get at pick 4 anyway.
Whoops!
I can't agree with that in bold.
Re: FF, depends if the penny has dropped with Neagle.
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B: Van-Berlo Silvagni Roberton
FB: Ibbotson Faulks Suban
C: Hill Palmer Fyfe
HF: DeBoer Anthony Crichton
FF: Ballantyne Mayne Walters
R: Clarke Barlow Morabito
I: Bollenghagen Pearce Houghton Sibosado
Not a bad side for under 23s - majority of the above players debuted in 2008/2009
Bolded players are either players we delisted or in Anthony's case a player who has nominated for the PSD - all are training with us atm
Unerlined are players who are yet to play an AFL game but are already on our list
FB: Ibbotson Faulks Suban
C: Hill Palmer Fyfe
HF: DeBoer Anthony Crichton
FF: Ballantyne Mayne Walters
R: Clarke Barlow Morabito
I: Bollenghagen Pearce Houghton Sibosado
Not a bad side for under 23s - majority of the above players debuted in 2008/2009
Bolded players are either players we delisted or in Anthony's case a player who has nominated for the PSD - all are training with us atm
Unerlined are players who are yet to play an AFL game but are already on our list
A grand total of 9 guys got more hit-outs than Paddy this year. 6 the year before.
Compared to 0 for Brown's career.
Try watching a match.
Ryder is coming of one of his worst year in his career for that reason isnt he.... He played alot of time in the ruck and he well sucked
Id of expected him to get more than 10th TBH given the amount of time he did spend in the ruck overall
Id of expected him to get more than 10th TBH given the amount of time he did spend in the ruck overall
Are you able to provide a stat showing how much time he did spend in the ruck?
We did have Hille back for the majority of the season so I would've thought his time in the ruck would've been far less than in '09 - especially considering he also kicked 21 goals. Besides, at 22, I wouldn't want him being over-rucked. We're not premiership ready, obviously, and there's no need to burn him out.
And so did I with ours?! The difference is that our spine has shown promise, yours is just potential. No point naming players for the sake of filling a position and saying it's filled, then saying "oh but that was regular football at AFL/WAFL level" and disregarding our list, despite having the same experience. lmao
And now you try to quantify that by using pick 4 in the argument, which was never mentioned. Fine then, we'll get our gun clearance winner at #8 with Caddy or Atley (most likely the latter). Happy? Stupid comment. Seriously.
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Best Young Lists:
Melbourne.
Freo.
Gold Coast.
Richmond.
Collingwood.
Worst List:
Essendon.
Melbourne.
Freo.
Gold Coast.
Richmond.
Collingwood.
Worst List:
Essendon.
Potential my ass. Those playerd have played as many games as your lot have in there respective positions. They just dont get the Victorian love that your lot get.
No, there's just a difference between 10-20 promising games and 10-20 ordinary games "but the kid has potential".
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