List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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[twadds]

I would expect 2025...

Another cull at the end of this year. I am expecting x5 players (under pressure Gaff, Ledwards, Hedwards, Foley, ??) and we need the likes of Darling, Sheed, Yeo, Mcgovern, Cripps to hang around long enough not to expose the kids to unbearable levels.


I dont know about this, just seems like we cant disturb the market and instead find a way to help clubs instead of shaking loose the kids (Busslinger). Is this another NBA or NFL thing?

Foley’s already goneski

 

[eaglevision]

I would expect 2025...

Another cull at the end of this year. I am expecting x5 players (under pressure Gaff, Ledwards, Hedwards, Foley, ??) and we need the likes of Darling, Sheed, Yeo, Mcgovern, Cripps to hang around long enough not to expose the kids to unbearable levels.


I dont know about this, just seems like we cant disturb the market and instead find a way to help clubs instead of shaking loose the kids (Busslinger). Is this another NBA or NFL thing?

Given those with contracts into 2025 I’m expecting (hoping) our 2024 trade/delist to be:

Rotham, LEdwards, HEdwards, Jamieson, Gaff, Witherden, Trew, Dewar, Baker

2025 I’m expecting Cripps, Darling and McGovern to retire with Hunt, Jones, Sheed and Petruccelle to be fighting for their spots. If Kelly and Yeo can stay fit they’ll get rolling 1 year contracts.

 

[Keys]

Can players on draftee contracts get a pay rise or are they stuck on base wages for duration of contract?

I recall TK was on base wages at Geelong all the way up until he left.

Harley has a mandatory 3yr contract. Be a bizarre situation when he's winning Brownlows but still on base $100k wages while our other draftees get a pay rise after 2 years.

The initial contract for draftees is set per the CBA based on what round they were drafted in and can’t be amended although there are incentives built in for AA nominations/selections, club B&F placings, Brownlow wins and games played

There is also an allowance for an Additional Services Agreement in the 3rd year for players with a 3 year contract if they the benchmarks set out (similar to those that qualify for incentives)

Hi guys hope you don’t mind me posting on your board , Barnett is OOC next year and after missing out on Goad the Crows would be dumb not to enquire
What would you expect /want for him?

Depends on how he develops this year after an injury interrupted first year where he didn’t really get going

But, ignoring player swaps, your R2 would be a minimum. If Barnett has a good year and you guys make finals it’d be closer to your R1

 

[Obeanie1]

He could go full JHF after 1 season … hope not but who knows
If that’s the case …your first and Barnett you have a deal

Our 1st wont be offered on top of Barnett.

Hope we split our 1st and turn it (pkus a 2nd) into two top 5 picks and land two gun mids. One can be Drapper.

We would offer only one of the top 5 picks for Curtin.

Cant see the Eagles being too generous after Crows cut our lunch and refused to trade this year.

 

[eaglevision]

What’s the situation with the MSD next year? If Culley is on the long term injury list does that mean we have a spot open to take a player? 37 main list, 5 Cat As (incl. Culley) and 2 Cat Bs is a full 44 player list.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

GWS see themselves as contenders for finals now so want players on the list now that can add excitement and enthusiasm to the group ..

Leake maybe but Gothard is very slight, so probably years away.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

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..has anyone checked if ROB has plans to buy a piggery?

Goes through bones like butter...

 

[Big_Birdy]

What’s the situation with the MSD next year? If Culley is on the long term injury list does that mean we have a spot open to take a player? 37 main list, 5 Cat As (incl. Culley) and 2 Cat Bs is a full 44 player list.

Culley wouldn’t be on long term injury list at start of year. In fact I think he is expected to be playing by the MSD next year

 

[eaglevision]

Culley wouldn’t be on long term injury list at start of year. In fact I think he is expected to be playing by the MSD next year

So that would mean we have no spots available for MSD unless we get a long term injury?

 

[Wce17]

Given those with contracts into 2025 I’m expecting (hoping) our 2024 trade/delist to be:

Rotham, LEdwards, HEdwards, Jamieson, Gaff, Witherden, Trew, Dewar, Baker

2025 I’m expecting Cripps, Darling and McGovern to retire with Hunt, Jones, Sheed and Petruccelle to be fighting for their spots. If Kelly and Yeo can stay fit they’ll get rolling 1 year contracts.

Why would you be hoping Dewar & Baker get cut? Bit early to make that call.

They are both Cat B rookies who where always going to take a lot longer. They have currently had 1 year in a disaster of a year where at one point they where the only Eagles listed players left at wafl level with a load of ammo footballers. Bit harsh to be putting a line through them already.

 

[twadds]

So that would mean we have no spots available for MSD unless we get a long term injury?

Correct

 

[eaglevision]

Why would you be hoping Dewar & Baker get cut?

They are both Cat B rookies who were always going to take a lot longer. They have currently had 1 year in a disaster of a year where at one point they were the only Eagles listed players left at wafl level with a load of ammo footballers. Bit harsh to be putting a line through them already.

Dewar and Baker are more of an expect than a hope, neither have had a chance to show their wares in a proper system. If the list stays fit the Beagles actually look pretty good on paper next year and it will be a big year for both of them.

 

[eaglevision]

Correct

I haven’t seen enough of Baker or Trew to comment on whether it was best to re-sign them but geez it would have been nice to have the flexibility of an extra list spot for the MSD in case there’s a Jai Newcombe waiting.

 

[pantskyle]

I haven’t seen enough of Baker or Trew to comment on whether it was best to re-sign them but geez it would have been nice to have the flexibility of an extra list spot for the MSD in case there’s a Jai Newcombe waiting.

Eagles will somehow make sure someone goes LTI and we'll be taking a pick.

 

[Tugga27]

I haven’t seen enough of Baker or Trew to comment on whether it was best to re-sign them but geez it would have been nice to have the flexibility of an extra list spot for the MSD in case there’s a Jai Newcombe waiting.

I hope not, but there's every chance we wil lose at least one player for the season.

I'd prefer we didn't of course.

 

[Godfather32]

So that would mean we have no spots available for MSD unless we get a long term injury?

You can probably bank on one, then another three or so that we've known about since Easter to come to light in the week after the MSD

 

[twadds]

I guess it's a win-win either way right?

 

[sey666]

Eagles will somehow make sure someone goes LTI and we'll be taking a pick.

Doesn't this going to spook the rest of the competition?

 

[shooshka]

I haven’t seen enough of Baker or Trew to comment on whether it was best to re-sign them but geez it would have been nice to have the flexibility of an extra list spot for the MSD in case there’s a Jai Newcombe waiting.

We’re likely to have a top 5 MSD selection, but really only 1-2 players outside of the top pick actually show much.

If we have pick 1 it is different, there is often a standout player, but we shouldn’t lament not having a spot in November when it isn’t even the next opportunity to get a player (that would be the SSP and train-on, and there are a couple who went unselected in the draft who would hold some interest if we had a list spot).


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[random260]

Walter grabbing Reid shirt.

Walter you need to do what your heart tells ya and return to the west! You must not be the one that got away

 

[Hook461123]

That GWS recruiter sure had a hard on for Gothard.
Haven’t checked but can’t see that move being very popular with their
100’s of fans.
If they’d taken our 1st they still could’ve had at least one of Leake/Gothard. I thought we must have been asking for something back as well. But it appears not. It was also a strange move to then turn around and give the 2nd back. At least they will have the best small forwards.

Crows made out like bandits from that trade. I was disappointed at the time, I thought we had the better deal on the table but at least I get to take more of interest in the draft again.

 

[Cuzz09]

Without jinxing anything I'm sure we'll have an LTI early in the season we can use the MSD pick

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[Spange]

With regards to trading picks for cap space as you mentioned Keys in an earlier post, I can’t help but feel it will bite us and help the afl run clubs and big vic clubs rort the system.

I’m imagining a world where our trade targets, up and coming, are retained on bigger coin at their current clubs who flog a pick to old mate at club up the road.

Sydney, Gold Coast, Brisbane, GWS are in the purple circle of vAFL handouts so won’t bite the hand that feeds. Will be interesting to see what goes down in the next trade period if this rule eventuates.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Love the idea of Busslinger coming to WC.

I really don’t get the feverish love of Buss on this forum! Hasn’t even played a game yet in a side with a shitty defence.
Enlighten me!!

 

[Seadog]

So that would mean we have no spots available for MSD unless we get a long term injury?

No long term injury would be a minor miracle in itself, we should be so lucky.