Autopsy 2018 PF1 Roast and Toast v Collingwood

Best Players v Collingwood

  • 12. David Astbury

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • 18. Alex Rance

    Votes: 43 15.6%
  • 2. Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 124 44.9%
  • 14. Bachar Houli

    Votes: 33 12.0%
  • 1. Nick Vlastuin

    Votes: 55 19.9%
  • 35. Nathan Broad

    Votes: 9 3.3%
  • 6. Shaun Grigg

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • 9. Trent Cotchin

    Votes: 118 42.8%
  • 33. Kamdyn McIntosh

    Votes: 44 15.9%
  • 25. Toby Nankervis

    Votes: 34 12.3%
  • 23. Kane Lambert

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • 3. Dion Prestia

    Votes: 16 5.8%
  • 17. Daniel Rioli

    Votes: 21 7.6%
  • 10. Shane Edwards

    Votes: 24 8.7%
  • 11. Jason Castagna

    Votes: 18 6.5%
  • 8. Jack Riewoldt

    Votes: 206 74.6%
  • 4. Dustin Martin

    Votes: 21 7.6%
  • 22. Josh Caddy

    Votes: 10 3.6%
  • 15. Jayden Short

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • 28. Jack Higgins

    Votes: 93 33.7%
  • 34. Jack Graham

    Votes: 6 2.2%
  • 30. Reece Conca

    Votes: 15 5.4%

  • Total voters
    276

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I’m sorry. I lasted as long as I could with my 8 year old son who was pretty distressed and the performance and loss.
I’m not one to leave early, but I’m also not one to force suffering in a young child.
If you don’t want me as a supporter let me know do I don’t bother attending every home game next year and will stop my membership after 22 consecutive years.
Well said. I don't begrudge any supporter leaving early after witnessing a performance like that. Some stay till the end, some don't. Doesn't mean that anyone who leaves loves the club any less, and doesn't give anyone who stays the right to tell other supporters whether or not they should remain as supporters.

I've been a member for 31 years. If I want to leave early, I'll ****ing leave early. If I decide to stay, even if the team's performance was ****ing abysmal, then I will.

But I won't tell any other supporter when they should or shouldn't leave.
 
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Yeah, couldn't live without posting on BF once every couple of months.
No, I am talking what you are posting and not how often you are posting. Do you do that in real life too? Trying to find an opposition supporter to rile them up because their team lost or are you too much of a coward to do that because you'll probably end up with a fist in your face?

If you do that in real life, then I pity you for your choice of a sad lifestyle. If you don't, then you are a coward for hiding behind a screen to try and get a reaction from people who cannot touch you. Less worse to hide behind a screen than taunting people in real life of course, but that is still the move of a coward to me.
 
I was ok but then saw a young boy in tears upon leaving his seat. That teared me up more. My 13 year old son talked to him (didn't know him) to try to cheer him up a bit. While on the train my son texted his Collingwood supporting friend to congratulate him and wish him well next week. No prompting from me. I was very proud of him. He showed more maturity than the row of obnoxious Collingwood supporters behind us who spent the whole game throwing personal insults against our players. I don't get some people. Watch the game, cheer your team on but don't be a flog.
 
We were smashed by a significantly better team on the night.

The reality is we only have two genuinely 'A' grade midfielders ( Cotch and Dusty). Collingwood have significantly more (Sidebottom, Adams, Treloar and Pendlebury).

As much as I'm genuinely excited that Lynch is likely to join us, we need much more in the 'engine room'.
 
I know very well how it feels to lose to Collingwood in a prelim, it felt very strange. The next day I had no bitter feelings towards them and have respected them ever since.
But your guys lost narrowly, if I recall? They didn't shit the bed like our blokes did.

For me, it's not that it was Collingwood (although that's bad enough), it was the performance. Whoever our opponent was is irrelevant really. We would have been lucky to beat anyone with that performance.
 
No, I am talking what you are posting and not how often you are posting. Do you do that in real life too? Trying to find an opposition supporter to rile them up because their team lost or are you too much of a coward to do that because you'll probably end up with a fist in your face?

If you do that in real life, then I pity you for your choice of a sad lifestyle. If you don't, then you are a coward for hiding behind a screen to try and get a reaction from people who cannot touch you. Less worse to hide behind a screen than taunting people in real life of course, but that is still the move of a coward to me.
What the fruck are you on about kido, lol yesterday has really taken a mental toll on you
 

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What's your opinion of the pre finals bye? I think it's ridiculous. I feel like it disadvantages teams who win week 1 of the finals. Interesting to see how west coast go tonight
Look, I think it is a disadvantage for a side that does not have strong opponents heading into the finals because they are not able to strengthen their performance up enough to build consistency against the top sides. We were still at fault though because we did not perform our brand strongly enough in the run home and then we ended up being hit with the bye. Our preparation for finals this year was not what it needed to be to win the Premiership to be honest.
 
With the introduction of the bye before the finals it will be interesting to see how the teams with a second bye heading into a prelim are affected. It did not affect Adelaide or Richmond last year but time will tell overall. Does such a lack of games affect your performance coming up to a prelim?

By the way. I was having a discussion on the train with a man regarding how seldom the team finishing top goes on and wins the flag. Apparently the last time the team that finished top ended up winning the grand final was 2007. It is almost the poisoned chalice.
 
This one Ruckman thing is done.
Would have been alright if that one ruckman was Gawn or Grundy.

I am starting to think we may need an upgrade on Nankervis. There I said it. He is amazing around the ground, but the reality is that he is undersized for a ruckman. We need another ruckman as our first ruckman that can give us hit-outs to advantage. Nankervis can then play as a tall forward + give us some height and physicality in the midfield while being the relief ruckman for our main ruckman.

Grigg strategy is gone after yesterday IMO.
 
The better team won.

Smashed in contested ball to the point where we never had a chance.

Pies were tactically beautiful, played their height advantage to the fullest, and we couldn’t counter.

My heart now beats true, get around the drought-breakers! #godees #bandwagon #tigers2019
 
Collingwood will not beat Melbourne...we had 16 players on the ground Dusty and Astbury out of it.We still got to within 21 points Lambert turnover and its all over.I have enjoyed this year we will rebuild and come back much harder.Cotch had a good look around as he was walking off the ground they will hurt and be back next year.
Collingwood copied everything we did..they played our game
Dusty is ultra durable. So we get used to playing with him. How would our team look without him taking the field? Vlas is probably the most likely as far as body size goes. And we have a range of tall & small defenders.
 
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Haven’t read the thread so apologies if I’m repeating but my roast is for Hardwick..

Sidebottom 41 possessions, we just let him sit off the back of the square as a loose man instead of plonking graham right next to him which should have been the play from the very beginning .

degoy 4 goals with rance rather than grimes on him and it looked like rance rather than the coaches was the one to finally make the call to swap to grimes, 1 quarter and 3 goals too late, we all knew that grimes was the perfect matchup and rance plays best as a loose man where he could have impacted cox in marking contests .

Playing 2 underdone players(Martin/Astbury) and 2 players off injury and out of form (conka and Lambert) in a game of this magnitude.

Doing nothing to change things up and drop men back in the second quarter to stop the run on that Collingwood had and just continuing with the same strategy to let the game get completely away from us.

And then he has the Gaul to say he is disappointed in the way we played?!?!? he should be disappointed in his friggen coaching..

Cox and Grundy had troubled us in both of the previous home and away games but just didn’t kick straight. Why didn’t he try out playing Chol or Soldo in that second game during the regular season to see whether we had a better option to try and nullify their impact?

Those three changes, Chol/Soldo, Graham to Sidebottom and Grimes on DeGoey from the beginning and I reckon we win that game.

It was hubris that lost us that prelim, we thought it didn’t matter what the opposition did


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Apparently the last time the team that finished top ended up winning the grand final was 2007. It is almost the poisoned chalice.
No.

Collingwood in 2010 and Hawthorn in 2013 both won from top spot.

Doesn't matter where you finish between 1-4. If you're good enough, you'll win it.

Or you'll shit the bed like we did.
 
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