2019 Non-Crows AFL Chat Part 2

[Pea Nut]

Port complaining that Collingwood won't let them wear their prison bars is like people who move in next to a pub and then complain about the noise. You knew the rules when you joined.

Collingwood's banner on Friday night nailed it. There isn't any more that needs to be said.

 

[Dixie Normous]

lol

 

[Twist_of_Lemon]

lol

Is that, like, a threat?

 

[spenze]

Bump is very much alive ask Viney and Milera. Ablett should be suspended.

With that all said, I can see a future where the bump will be outlawed in any capacity even one that is considered "fair" today.

"The Bump will never die...on the dancefloor" Disco Stu

 

[SuperBashBros]

Had to give Ablett a week. Cant let him off on that and expect juniors to think its okay to jump off the ground with elbows up.

He will get off but its more the image than impact

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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[Pea Nut]

I think downhill skiier would be more appropriate rather than barometer.

 

[Pea Nut]

Anyone else watch the showdown presser?? Ollie Wines' plan for stopping Eddie ?? "Hoping they catch him on an off day". Great plan Ollie. Good luck with that.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I think downhill skiier would be more appropriate rather than barometer.

How do you tell the difference?

 

[spexau]

Anyone else watch the showdown presser?? Ollie Wines' plan for stopping Eddie ?? "Hoping they catch him on an off day". Great plan Ollie. Good luck with that.

As of they'd say anything of substance any way

 

[Pea Nut]

As of they'd say anything of substance any way

Surely you'd come up with something a bit more intelligent than hope to catch him on an off day.

 

[Pea Nut]

How do you tell the difference?

Not sure if serious.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Not sure if serious.

I am

How do you tell the difference between someone who is a match winner and someone who is a downhill skier?

Both have good games in wins, poor games in losses.

 

[Pea Nut]

I am

How do you tell the difference between someone who is a match winner and someone who is a downhill skier?

Both have good games in wins, poor games in losses.

One generates play and drives the team. Cripps for Carlton would be a good example. If he is shut down by opposition and doesn't play well or doesn't play at all due to injury Carlton look rudderless. The other piggy backs off of dominant team mates or a dominant team performance. See Tippa's 7 goal haul against Brisbane.

 

[Scorpus]

I am

How do you tell the difference between someone who is a match winner and someone who is a downhill skier?

Both have good games in wins, poor games in losses.

A downhill skiier never plays well in losses because they rely on the rest of the team performing to perform themselves. They do not generate play so when the play isn't being generated, they are useless.

In contrast, a match winner is a player that has the ability to lift the team over the line to a winning position. However by virtue of the game being a team sport, this won't always work, so you'd expect that on occasion a match winner will play well in losses.

Tipungwuti not even scoring in 5 losses suggests he is a downhill skiier over that period

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

One generates play and drives the team. Cripps for Carlton would be a good example. If he is shut down by opposition and doesn't play well or doesn't play at all due to injury Carlton look rudderless. The other piggy backs off of dominant team mates or a dominant team performance. See Tippa's 7 goal haul against Brisbane.

So forwards can be downhill skiers but midfielders can't?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

A downhill skiier never plays well in losses because they rely on the rest of the team performing to perform themselves. They do not generate play so when the play isn't being generated, they are useless.

In contrast, a match winner is a player that has the ability to lift the team over the line to a winning position. However by virtue of the game being a team sport, this won't always work, so you'd expect that on occasion a match winner will play well in losses.

Tipungwuti not even scoring in 5 losses suggests he is a downhill skiier over that period

So why aren't they winning some games when Tipungwuti doesn't play well?

Wouldn't their match winners be lifting the other players to a few victories?

 

[Pea Nut]

So forwards can be downhill skiers but midfielders can't?

Yeah that's totally what I said.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Yeah that's totally what I said.

Well isn't it?

Midfielders are at the coal face and start things off. Therefore they must be the initiators.

And forwards are the recipients of work up the field, therefore are the skiers.

 

[Pea Nut]

Well isn't it?

Midfielders are at the coal face and start things off. Therefore they must be the initiators.

And forwards are the recipients of work up the field, therefore are the skiers.

I used Cripps as an example as it's so blatantly obvious how badly Carlton drop off without him. Tex is considered a barometer for us and is a forward.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I used Cripps as an example as it's so blatantly obvious how badly Carlton drop off without him. Tex is considered a barometer for us and is a forward.

Ok but we're back to the start. How do we tell the difference?

When Tex plays well we win. Alright.

How do we know he's not capitalising on work by Sloane, Crouch, Crouch, Smith?

How do we know he's not just skiing in our victories off the good work of others?

 

[Sanders]

Is that, like, a threat?

Depends. Do you feel threatened?

 

[Twist_of_Lemon]

Depends. Do you feel threatened?

Quivering in my boots.

 

[StonesThrow]

One generates play and drives the team. Cripps for Carlton would be a good example. If he is shut down by opposition and doesn't play well or doesn't play at all due to injury Carlton look rudderless. The other piggy backs off of dominant team mates or a dominant team performance. See Tippa's 7 goal haul against Brisbane.

Cripps isn't a barometer. He normally plays well when Carlton play bad. A barometer has consistent correlation with team performance.

 

[Pea Nut]

Cripps isn't a barometer. He normally plays well when Carlton play bad. A barometer has consistent correlation with team performance.

Carlton as a team are bad. But they are a whole lot less bad when he plays well. And if they want a chance to win games both he and Kreuzer need to fire. He's definitely not better when Carlton are losing by plenty like you suggest.