List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Mutineer]

I keep hearing people say that we're upgrading Strachan but... why? I like him and all, but why upgrade a depth player who goes out of contract next year?

Because he has maxxed out his 4 years allowed on the rookie list unless the AFL change the rules AGAIN.

 

[Mostyn]

No we still need to delist a contracted to have 2 picks

I don't think that's true.

We can take two picks in this draft, but if we do we have to delist and then relist Seedsman as a rookie list draftee, at the same time as we're upgrading Butts/Strachan.

 

[Mostyn]

Drafting a bunch of kids won’t fix that.

Especially in a shithouse draft.

 

[Mostyn]

Surely norths future 2nd is worth more than pick 23 if we wanted to push up this year ( not saying we will but what we’ve done doesn’t make it less possible )

It 100% is.

Not sure why Sanders doesn't see that - the same pick in next year's draft is worth vastly more than this year.

Now, I don't think they did it for Phillipou, but if they did want to do a trade, I think we've increased the value of the assets we have.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Is it possible that we just draft Max and do 2 rookie elevations?

 

[crow2crow]

Is it possible that we just draft Max and do 2 rookie elevations?

given we have traded out of this draft completely- yes!

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Still amazed we have effectively given up on getting Phillipou - obviously don't rate this draft....

 

[Mutineer]

given we have traded out of this draft completely- yes!

There is no reason why we can't easily get back in if we really wanted to using either our 2023 2nd or North Melbourne's 2nd we procured through the trade out of our 2022 #23....both have more value than this year's 2nd we traded, the Roos 2nd especially at this point in time. Of course it would only be for the right player our recruiting team considered had slipped way below where they rated him at on their board.....otherwise it's full steam ahead to 2023 with the pick which could then be used either in the draft or on a mature aged trade in.

 

[Crow_68]

Is it possible that we just draft Max and do 2 rookie elevations?

Pretty much nailed on.

 

[Mutineer]

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/draft/ultimate-afl-draft-guide-your-clubs-list-needs-latest-intel-and-who-they-could-take/news-story/0a7a781d26bafca08bc28b65f54b0855

Ultimate AFL Draft guide: Your club’s list needs, latest intel and who they could take​

What does your club’s list need? And, more importantly, who could be available to fill them in this year’s draft? We run the rule over every team.

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Draft picks: 46, 56, 59

List needs: Midfield class and height, key defender, young ruckman

Who could be available at first pick: Max Michalanney

Who’s in the mix after that: Jaxon Binns, Adam D’Aloia, Kyle Marshall, Will Verrall, Phoenix Foster, James Van Es

After Adelaide gave up pick 5 in a trade to land Gold Coast’s Izak Rankine

23

Izak Rankine

Age

24

Ht

179cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

2.0

5star

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

2.0

5star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

5star

G

2.0

5star

, and then 23 to North Melbourne in exchange for pick 59 and the Roos’ 2023 second-round selection, it’s set to be all about father-son prospect and Norwood defender Max Michalanney on draft night. The Crows strengthened their draft hand for what is set to be a stronger crop next year, while arming itself with two extra late-round picks – one from a seperate trade with Brisbane – to match the bid for Michalanney, which is expected to come between 25 and 40. But, as it now stands, there will be no player taken before the versatile defender, ruling a line through homegrown ruckman Harry Barnett and tall midfield bolter Ed Allan. And it still looks unlikely Isaac Keeler, a Crows Next Generation Academy prospect and forward/ruck, will fall to pick 40, where Adelaide gets access to him.

Latest word: After showing significant interest in Barnett, all eyes were on the Crows at pick 23. But after the latest pick swaps, it now might just be Michalanney and a late-round pick, depending on when the bid comes.

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Thetrader15]

I don't think that's true.

We can take two picks in this draft, but if we do we have to delist and then relist Seedsman as a rookie list draftee, at the same time as we're upgrading Butts/Strachan.

Or we don't upgrade Strachan, he goes off the rookie list and we draft Verrall or another developing ruck.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

It’s likely these will come into picks 44, 54 and 57 once the Brisbane picks in the 30s are swallowed up matching Ashcroft.

Would then be 197 + 362 + 220 + 182, enough to match pick 19. Cannot see Max going that early.

I’m wondering if we’re hoping one of those picks in the 50’s won’t be chewed up so that we can get a project Ruck, otherwise possibly rookie draft


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[WeedsMullet84]

Surely norths future 2nd is worth more than pick 23 if we wanted to push up this year ( not saying we will but what we’ve done doesn’t make it less possible )

If anything bringing a future 2nd into the equation actually allows us more flexibility in adding a 2nd round pick to our future 1st if we were looking to get back into this draft.

I don’t think you’re allowed to trade out a future 1st unless you have at least one future 2nd/3rd/4th on each line, is that correct?




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[Dangerousfield]

If anything bringing a future 2nd into the equation actually allows us more flexibility in adding a 2nd round pick to our future 1st if we were looking to get back into this draft.

I don’t think you’re allowed to trade out a future 1st unless you have at least one future 2nd/3rd/4th on each line, is that correct?

Or stronger, so 2 x 2nds and a third (no 4th) or 2 x 2nds and a fourth (no third). A second, third and fourth is the minimum

 

[whattagun07]

I love the look of Keeler.
Absolute smooth mover for 198cm or whatever he is. Lovely kick on him too.
Seems like we will just end up with Max though?

 

[Crow_68]

I love the look of Keeler.
Absolute smooth mover for 198cm or whatever he is. Lovely kick on him too.
Seems like we will just end up with Max though?

Would have kept 23 if we were interested

 

[crow2crow]

There is no reason why we can't easily get back in if we really wanted to using either our 2023 2nd or North Melbourne's 2nd we procured through the trade out of our 2022 #23....both have more value than this year's 2nd we traded, the Roos 2nd especially at this point in time. Of course it would only be for the right player our recruiting team considered had slipped way below where they rated him at on their board.....otherwise it's full steam ahead to 2023 with the pick which could then be used either in the draft or on a mature aged trade in.

but do you think they will? I don't... based on their behaviour only

 

[Mutineer]

but do you think they will? I don't... based on their behaviour only

All I know is we now have a stronger hand to move up the order with the Roos' 2023 2nd than when we held the 2022 #23 if we really feel that a player has slipped way lower than we rated him in this draft

 

[BRL121]

All I know is we now have a stronger hand to move up the order with the Roos' 2023 2nd than when we held the 2022 #23 if we really feel that a player has slipped way lower than we rated him in this draft

Agreed. Contrary to many, I think Reid's comments on maximizing flexibility in the next two drafts, clearly flagged the possibility of moving back up this year, if appropriate.

 

[Crow till I die]

All I know is we now have a stronger hand to move up the order with the Roos' 2023 2nd than when we held the 2022 #23 if we really feel that a player has slipped way lower than we rated him in this draft

The north F2 and our F2 packaged up would no doubt be quite attractive to a side should the right opportunity come

 

[crow2crow]

The north F2 and our F2 packaged up would no doubt be quite attractive to a side should the right opportunity come

two unknown picks
we can all crystal ball they are good picks but that devalues them

tactically this has been done to stop an early bid by gws at 16 is what I have heard. could be bs I don't know.

 

[Bearded Clam]

two unknown picks
we can all crystal ball they are good picks but that devalues them

tactically this has been done to stop an early bid by gws at 16 is what I have heard. could be bs I don't know.

How does it somehow stop GWS from biding at 16?..

if they wanted to bid at 16 when we had pick 23.. then why would that change now we have nominated MM and at the same time announced we have traded out pick 23?..

 

[Crow till I die]

two unknown picks
we can all crystal ball they are good picks but that devalues them

tactically this has been done to stop an early bid by gws at 16 is what I have heard. could be bs I don't know.

How does it stop an early bid?

 

[Schulzycrow]

Which year was that?

Around 2006 I think, by memory.