List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[crow2crow]

How does it stop an early bid?

the word early is the problem

 

[crowholder]

Was reading a Fox Footy post. Maybe this was one of Phillipou's controversial red flags? "while Woodville-West Torrens on-baller Mattaes Phillipou follows Port Adelaide."

 

[crow2crow]

Was reading a Fox Footy post. Maybe this was one of Phillipou's controversial red flags? "while Woodville-West Torrens on-baller Mattaes Phillipou follows Port Adelaide."

 

[Mutineer]

two unknown picks
we can all crystal ball they are good picks but that devalues them

tactically this has been done to stop an early bid by gws at 16 is what I have heard. could be bs I don't know.

Heard where?

Unless you have a "hot" line to Jason McCartney or maybe Emma Quayle we'd have to question your source.

Why would they take Max when there are plenty of higher rated players in a similar vein that will be available around that point in the draft i.e Josh Weddle

 

[Sanders]

It 100% is.

Not sure why Sanders doesn't see that - the same pick in next year's draft is worth vastly more than this year.

Now, I don't think they did it for Phillipou, but if they did want to do a trade, I think we've increased the value of the assets we have.

Yes, why don’t people understand that the real world trade that just happened isn’t a fair approximation of value

Far more accurate is someone’s casual day dream, not what the real world swap value actually was

 

[rabidcrow]

How does it stop an early bid?

When the Ashcroft picks go out we can match a bid (likely) at 16 so I guess that’s the thought. Then after the bid we can get back in if we choose to get another player


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[Sanders]

All I know is we now have a stronger hand to move up the order with the Roos' 2023 2nd than when we held the 2022 #23 if we really feel that a player has slipped way lower than we rated him in this draft

You know nothing of the F***ing sort

We just split a $20 into 2x $10 at the current rate of exchange

 

[ams4crows]

Why are we re drafting Turner in the rookie draft? We don't need him? He's a good SANFL player but that's it. Another wasted list spot.

 

[crow2crow]

When the Ashcroft picks go out we can match a bid (likely) at 16 so I guess that’s the thought. Then after the bid we can get back in if we choose to get another player


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spot on

 

[Dangerousfield]

When the Ashcroft picks go out we can match a bid (likely) at 16 so I guess that’s the thought. Then after the bid we can get back in if we choose to get another player

Once Brisbane take Ashcroft and Fletcher, our picks will be 44, 53, 56, that's as high as they can get. Not sure what that allows us to match?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Why are we re drafting Turner in the rookie draft? We don't need him? He's a good SANFL player but that's it. Another wasted list spot.

Are we for sure saying we will double down?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Once Brisbane take Ashcroft and Fletcher, our picks will be 44, 53, 56, that's as high as they can get. Not sure what that allows us to match?

As a guess a pick in the late teens.

I'm hoping MM slides & we can swap our 1st pick wherever it lands for a future pick.

 

[Mutineer]

Once Brisbane take Ashcroft and Fletcher, our picks will be 44, 53, 56, that's as high as they can get. Not sure what that allows us to match?

Essendon F/S Davey junior will likely get bid on well before our pick as well.

 

[Crowked]

Heard where?

Unless you have a "hot" line to Jason McCartney or maybe Emma Quayle we'd have to question your source.

Why would they take Max when there are plenty of higher rated players in a similar vein that will be available around that point in the draft i.e Josh Weddle

Haven’t we bid on their academy players quite a bit.
Maybe just making sure we pay in full.

 

[crow2crow]

Heard where?

Unless you have a "hot" line to Jason McCartney or maybe Emma Quayle we'd have to question your source.

Why would they take Max when there are plenty of higher rated players in a similar vein that will be available around that point in the draft i.e Josh Weddle

I just heard a rumour not in the media. who knows.

 

[Mutineer]

Haven’t we bid on their academy players quite a bit.
Maybe just making sure we pay in full.

Pretty dangerous play to use a 1st round pick on a player unless they really do rate the player.

 

[crow2crow]

Pretty dangerous play to use a1st round pick on a player unless they really do rate the player.

he did make AA best 22 U18 (I know wardlaw and phillipou injured) so hes not that far off. but agree it seems early im just reporting what I heard.

 

[Sanders]

I just heard a rumour not in the media. who knows.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It 100% is.

Not sure why Sanders doesn't see that - the same pick in next year's draft is worth vastly more than this year.

Now, I don't think they did it for Phillipou, but if they did want to do a trade, I think we've increased the value of the assets we have.

He doesn’t see it because I suggested it

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I’d like to think we draft one of the above .

None of them are all that good … I’d go Verrall out those given a choice as think he’s got potential

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If anything bringing a future 2nd into the equation actually allows us more flexibility in adding a 2nd round pick to our future 1st if we were looking to get back into this draft.

I don’t think you’re allowed to trade out a future 1st unless you have at least one future 2nd/3rd/4th on each line, is that correct?




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Definitely think we are doing some smarter things lately

Just taking the risk of the early Michaelanny bid out of the equation is reason enough IMO

Hope we are open minded re using our capital this year or next year depending on opportunities that arise

 

[Sanders]

He doesn’t see it because I suggested it

Well sure, that would be playing the safe odds.

But actually it’s just a ridiculous idea.

 

[crow2crow]

It 100% is.

Not sure why Sanders doesn't see that - the same pick in next year's draft is worth vastly more than this year.

Now, I don't think they did it for Phillipou, but if they did want to do a trade, I think we've increased the value of the assets we have.

they simply did it so it didnt get swallowed for MM bid it's obvious

ps your icon is cool

 

[119others]

All I know is we now have a stronger hand to move up the order with the Roos' 2023 2nd than when we held the 2022 #23 if we really feel that a player has slipped way lower than we rated him in this draft

Absolutely. Even a semi conscious numbnut would have to absolutely agree with this. This HELPS us do deals if we wish. It’s an enabler and certainly in our favour. I can’t see why if a highly desired player was still on the board at say pick 10-12 we don’t offer both 2023 second rounders.

More smart manoeuvring in draft swaps. LOL at those posters LOL’g at the Kangas doing the deal. When we do a shrewd move like this the attention from many goes towards a negative joke at the oppo rather than complimenting our club. We are certainly top quartile - if not far higher - for pick swaps over recent years (extra GWS first rounder, Blues slider deal in 2018 plus others). One area of the club significantly above average

 

[119others]

If anything bringing a future 2nd into the equation actually allows us more flexibility in adding a 2nd round pick to our future 1st if we were looking to get back into this draft.

I don’t think you’re allowed to trade out a future 1st unless you have at least one future 2nd/3rd/4th on each line, is that correct?




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Agree to an extent. To add our 2023 first (likely a top 6 pick in sports betting) along with Kangas 2023 second (very likely pick 19) in pure terms as they are CLEAR spoon faves in betting we would be needing a top 3-4 pick this year. Can’t see that happening. More chance we grab an elite mid next year with pick 6ish and use Kangas pick 19 ish to do a Dawson type trade in or (assuming Kangas are bottom) leverage the strategically valuable first pick of the second night as other clubs have done previously (eg slide it to 24 ish and pick up a good pick the following year)