List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Hodgy]

So Sydney bid on two players back to back? Surely being campaigners

Absolutely reemed GWS. Just devastated their draft.
it’s what we should have done to them 2 years ago by bidding on Braden Campbell at 2, forcing them to match, then bidding on Goulden at 7 where they couldn’t have matched.

 

[Hodgy]

If you look at transactions, the value of the first round seems clear.

We gave 5 away as quickly as we could. GCS dumped 7 just to lose salary - which Bowes would have done AND stayed. Sydney dicked around making bids while they tried to lock in a trade, presumably because they were struggling to find takers.

Even the Sydney trade - they gave a first up for a middling second this year (potentially at a point where the talent will be REALLY thin) and a F2 and F3, which I'm sure is the real thing they wanted.

Then why did Essendon pass on 3 1sts for pick 4?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Absolutely reemed GWS. Just devastated their draft.
it’s what we should have done to them 2 years ago by bidding on Braden Campbell at 2, forcing them to match, then bidding on Goulden at 7 where they couldn’t have matched.

We would have got Gulden I reckon

 

[Brett Cummings]

We are waiting then … what ya got ?

kfc.

 

[crow2crow]

Next year is a much deeper draft.

i bet you can't even name the top 20 for next year

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Think it will come out that multiple clubs tried to push up to get Humphrey

Hence clubs interest in pick 4 from Essendon

Maybe one or 2 others too

All hearsay until info starts to come through

Unless Twomey and other sources lie about it

 

[Mutineer]

Then why did Essendon pass on 3 1sts for pick 4?

Amongst other bids from other clubs as Dodoro said in the coverage when asked.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If you look at transactions, the value of the first round seems clear.

We gave 5 away as quickly as we could. GCS dumped 7 just to lose salary - which Bowes would have done AND stayed. Sydney dicked around making bids while they tried to lock in a trade, presumably because they were struggling to find takers.

Even the Sydney trade - they gave a first up for a middling second this year (potentially at a point where the talent will be REALLY thin) and a F2 and F3, which I'm sure is the real thing they wanted.

Did Sydney try to push up the order too ?

Will be interesting to find out

 

[Hodgy]

Amongst other bids from other clubs as Dodoro said in the coverage when asked.

BTW, taking Tsatas instead of 3 1sts is an amazing call. He’d want to end up at least as good as Pendleberry to justify that.

 

[crow2crow]

big winners in order
1. brisbane
2. west coast
3. adelaide (drawing a first round bid highly advantageous as others have noted)

big losers
1. gws - cadman cost a lot and the rest of the picks are too speculative given their capital
2. north - yuk just juk
3. hawks - also yuk yuk yuk with that trade

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Then why did Essendon pass on 3 1sts for pick 4?

“We also made regular calls to other clubs to try to improve our position in the first round and we will continue to do that in the next 24 hours as we prepare for the second night of the draft.”

Ogilvie

 

[Crow till I die]

“We also made regular calls to other clubs to try to improve our position in the first round and we will continue to do that in the next 24 hours as we prepare for the second night of the draft.”

Ogilvie

Thilthorpe will be there at pick 9

FAITH

 

[Mostyn]

i bet you can't even name the top 20 for next year

Anyone who's been watching any junior footy this year would have seen the number of underagers coming through. It's not my opinion - it's the opinion of most people.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

big winners in order
1. brisbane
2. west coast
3. adelaide (drawing a first round bid highly advantageous as others have noted)

big losers
1. gws - cadman cost a lot and the rest of the picks are too speculative given their capital
2. north - yuk just juk
3. hawks - also yuk yuk yuk with that trade

North smashed it out of the park

 

[rabidcrow]

In 2 years time I'm not seeing it.

Two things confuse me if we were really deep into Phillipou

- as many have commented why didn’t we work out future first into the Rankine deal. Multiple Vic clubs were looking at Bowes and I am sure our future first would have been very attractive. We could still have swapped 5 for 7 if GC wouldn’t budge without being higher up the order

- if we were trying to get the Bombers pick - or the Saints etc, and Phillipou was onboard with coming to us, why would he shout from the rooftops that he was happy to go interstate. Like Tsatas, he could have put the go home factor fear into clubs and assisted us in potentially trading in.

Publicly at least it doesn’t seem that we were heavily invested - or at least MP wasn’t


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[Mutineer]

Two things confuse me if we were really deep into Phillipou

- as many have commented why didn’t we work out future first into the Rankine deal. Multiple Vic clubs were looking at Bowes and I am sure our future first would have been very attractive. We could still have swapped 5 for 7 if GC wouldn’t budge without being higher up the order

- if we were trying to get the Bombers pick - or the Saints etc, and Phillipou was onboard with coming to us, why would he shout from the rooftops that he was happy to go interstate. Like Tsatas, he could have put the go home factor fear into clubs and assisted us in potentially trading in.

Publicly at least it doesn’t seem that we were heavily invested - or at least MP wasn’t


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You're wrongit will likely come out what we offered Essendon days ago.

 

[Mostyn]

So, all these incredible mysterious offers - and yet the actual trades were strangely undervalued?

Personally, I think Dodoro and Essendon were feeding rumours to the media to try and get betters offers, none of which came.

But I guess we'll never know - we'll only know what actually happened.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So, all these incredible mysterious offers - and yet the actual trades were strangely undervalued?

Personally, I think Dodoro and Essendon were feeding rumours to the media to try and get betters offers, none of which came.

But I guess we'll never know - we'll only know what actually happened.

If Dodo isn't accepting 3x1sts for pick 4, he's not budging.

No one is offering more.

 

[Crow till I die]

North smashed it out of the park

Wardlaw replaces JHF and sheezel oozes class and ability. Done well imo

 

[Mutineer]

Wardlaw replaces JHF and sheezel oozes class and ability. Done well imo

exceptionally well.

 

[crow2crow]

North smashed it out of the park

no they didn't

they could have taken wardlaw to replace horne then traded down twice reaping two more future firsts and grabbing what they needed which was busslinger or jefferson

absolutely shit draft by them

they do not need sheezel and overrated from what ive seen

 

[Danger in Texas]

Wardlaw replaces JHF and sheezel oozes class and ability. Done well imo

Filled both a need and talent quota, with still a pick to come

Probably the winners of the night IMO. Wardlaw I reckon is the best prospect

 

[crow2crow]

So, all these incredible mysterious offers - and yet the actual trades were strangely undervalued?

Personally, I think Dodoro and Essendon were feeding rumours to the media to try and get betters offers, none of which came.

But I guess we'll never know - we'll only know what actually happened.

agree this time

dodoro is a shit stirrer and i would not buy a cup cake off that bloke

 

[Mutineer]

no they didn't

they could have taken wardlaw to replace horne then traded down twice reaping two more future firsts and grabbing what they needed which was busslinger or jefferson

absolutely s**t draft by them

they do not need sheezel and overrated from what ive seen

Sheezel overrated....LOL LOL

 

[Crow till I die]

If Dodo isn't accepting 3x1sts for pick 4, he's not budging.

No one is offering more.

Really that is JHF bid territory and for a pick 4....melbourne might have dodged a bullet long term