List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[crow2crow]

Sheezel overrated....LOL LOL

well I just value different things - and they certainly dont need him with paul curtis as much as they needed cadman buss or jefferson

 

[Hodgy]

no they didn't

they could have taken wardlaw to replace horne then traded down twice reaping two more future firsts and grabbing what they needed which was busslinger or jefferson

absolutely s**t draft by them

they do not need sheezel and overrated from what ive seen

Don’t forget they had pick 1 and JHF a few weeks ago. Can’t really see that this post season has been anything but a disaster for them.

 

[Crow till I die]

Sheezel overrated....LOL LOL

If rachele was in this draft, spitballibg on talent where would you have placed him?

 

[Crow till I die]

Don’t forget they had pick 1 and JHF a few weeks ago. Can’t really see that this post season has been anything but a disaster for them.

Yes but they mitigated it pretty well as pick 1 they still take wardlaw or sheezel and they have replaced jhf with a top quality kid.

 

[crow2crow]

If rachele was in this draft, spitballibg on talent where would you have placed him?

ahead of sheezel thats for sure
sheezel is just a bad pick for north imho

 

[Hodgy]

Yes but they mitigated it pretty well as pick 1 they still take wardlaw or sheezel and they have replaced jhf with a top quality kid.

Well depends how you look at it.
we offered 3 1sts last year for pick 1 and GWS would have given them 2 1sts for pick 1 this year, including their 3, then they could have got 3 1sts for that 3 from Mel or WB this year. What’s that, 7 1st round picks. Could have set their club up for the next 10 years.

 

[George Kramer]

If Dodo isn't accepting 3x1sts for pick 4, he's not budging.

No one is offering more.

Wasn’t it 4 and 22, given Melbourne should be contending again, Essendon were getting 2 firsts in the teens and sliding their 22 forward a bit

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Do the Crows now have the most 1st round picks on their list in their history?

13 in last 8 years + Smith

2022 - Michalanney 17
2021 Rachele 6
2020 Thilthorpe 2, Pedlar 11
2019 McAsey 6, Cook 25
2018 - Rankine 3#, Jones 9, Hately 14#, McHenry 16
2017 - Fogarty 12
(2016 - Gallucci 15)
2015 - Milera 11, Doedee 17
(2014 - Lever 14)
2010 - Smith 14

Edit - added Cook

 

[ams4crows]

I think West coast are pretty happy they turned pick 2 into Ginbey and Hewett

 

[Danger Zone]

Do the Crows now have the most 1st round picks on their list in their history?

12 in last 8 years + Smith

2022 - Michalanney 17
2021 Rachele 6
2021Thilthorpe 2, Pedlar 11
2020 McAsey 6
2018 - Rankine 3#, Jones 9, Hately 14#, McHenry 16
2017 - Fogarty 12
(2016 - Gallucci 15)
2015 - Milera 11, Doedee 17
(2014 - Lever)
2010 - Smith 14

Cook was first round too after all the bid matching, wasn't he?

 

[Crow till I die]

Do the Crows now have the most 1st round picks on their list in their history?

12 in last 8 years + Smith

2022 - Michalanney 17
2021 Rachele 6
2021Thilthorpe 2, Pedlar 11
2020 McAsey 6
2018 - Rankine 3#, Jones 9, Hately 14#, McHenry 16
2017 - Fogarty 12
(2016 - Gallucci 15)
2015 - Milera 11, Doedee 17
(2014 - Lever)
2010 - Smith 14

You missed brayden cook in 2020

 

[Scorpus]

Pick 25

2nd round.

Edit- was he 1st round after all the matching?

2nd last pick of the 1st round, Geelong's pick that year before trades

 

[earlsta]

i honestly think sheezel is too slow for AFL

we shall see

I was at the game where he tore the Falcons to shreds in the first half, kicked like 4 in the first half alone. He’s got tricks that not many players have, he’s doesn’t need to be quick when he can literally sidestep anyone, Ashcroft gets more of the ball but Sheezel will be better imo, freakish talent.

 

[Golumless]

Pick 25

2nd round.

Edit- was he 1st round after all the matching?

Yup, that first round blew out all of the way to pick 27-28.

 

[Mutineer]

I was at the game where he tore the Falcons to shreds in the first half, kicked like 4 in the first half alone. He’s got tricks that not many players have, he’s doesn’t need to be quick when he can literally sidestep anyone, Ashcroft gets more of the ball but Sheezel will be better imo, freakish talent.

The Stevie Johnson comparisons are on point...

 

[1990crow]

The Stevie Johnson comparisons are on point...

And it took Stevie like 5 years or more to come good.

 

[Mutineer]

And it took Stevie like 5 years or more to come good.

Won't take Harry anything like that long, he doesn't possess the self discipline Stevie lacked early on..... he'll play AFL in 2023...

Hopefully he won't cop the anti-semitic crap he copped over the weekend during his AFL career, just goes to show there's some real lowlifes that follow footy.

 

[Danger Zone]

Besides the obvious ones in Barnett and Ryan, who is left that might be a good fit for us?

Of the guys I've seen, the two that stood out for me were Cowan and Dowling. Both just look like AFL players to my eyes.

Would love to see us pick a tall like Verrall either late or in the Rookie draft too.

 

[Sanders]

If you look at transactions, the value of the first round seems clear.

We gave 5 away as quickly as we could. GCS dumped 7 just to lose salary - which Bowes would have done AND stayed. Sydney dicked around making bids while they tried to lock in a trade, presumably because they were struggling to find takers.

Even the Sydney trade - they gave a first up for a middling second this year (potentially at a point where the talent will be REALLY thin) and a F2 and F3, which I'm sure is the real thing they wanted.

Look, it’s so obvious that at some point you have to wonder whether someone even wants to understand

We know as absolute, irrefutable fact certain things:

Picks including 1,2,5,7 have been traded away - That is unprecedented in the modern era.

We also know the AFL media - who have a vested interest in maintaining interest and intrigue in one the AFL’s marquee events, the draft, in what has been a very low key, low expectation class - has been selling the idea of a sudden feeding frenzy from clubs trying to buy back into this draft. A draft other clubs have publicly sold out of relatively cheaply

Not only are these entirely unverified, speculative rumours, they apparently involve massive overs to buy into the draft that has already been sold out of

Lastly, we observed none of these trades being executed despite the allegations of significant overs being offered.

Now, it could be true that there was a sudden and inexplicable market correction across the board, and suddenly multiple parties wanted desperately to buy in and offered to pay up. But equally we are asked to believe that all these massive overs offers were out there but no one took it?

What’s more likely though? That a damp squib of an event got a little mayo, or an entire industry froze at the sudden riches being offered from all comers?

Given the facts of the matter, which include an unprecedented sell off, maybe Dodoro was just trying to create a market - unsuccessfully?

 

[Sanders]

Then why did Essendon pass on 3 1sts for pick 4?

Did they?

 

[Sanders]

i bet you can't even name the top 20 for next year

A fair bit of money to be made right now if you can!

 

[Mutineer]

Besides the obvious ones in Barnett and Ryan, who is left that might be a good fit for us?

Of the guys I've seen, the two that stood out for me were Cowan and Dowling. Both just look like AFL players to my eyes.

Would love to see us pick a tall like Verrall either late or in the Rookie draft too.

Olli Hotton, Coby Burgiel shouldn't last much longer you'd have to think.

 

[Sanders]

Amongst other bids from other clubs as Dodoro said in the coverage when asked.

I bet he did. What does Melbourne say?

 

[Sanders]

BTW, taking Tsatas instead of 3 1sts is an amazing call. He’d want to end up at least as good as Pendleberry to justify that.

Is it though? Or is it more likely that it’s such an amazing, fantastical call that maybe it’s just too unbelievable

 

[Danger Zone]

Olli Hotton, Coby Burgiel shouldn't last much longer you'd have to think.

Yeah, imagine George, Hustwaite and some of KPDs will go soon too. Was more interested in the guys that would be a good list fit for us. Any thoughts on that, from the guys left?

Edit: Apologies if Hotton and Burgiel were your suggestions and I misread it though