List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Scorpus]

Are we seeing a shift towards more speculative prospects being given as much time outside an AFL list to show what they've got?

We've had a couple of main drafts now that have barely passed 60 picks since the introduction of the SSP and mid-season system.

Clubs have many more opportunities to assess speculative late draft types. They can get them as train on players for an SSP spot or wait and see if they show anything the following year and take them mid-season.

I reckon it's only a matter of time before the rookie draft becomes basically useless and only used for re-rookieing players (like we're doing) as clubs prefer to take SSPs instead

 

[George Kramer]

What I’m most disappointed about last nights draft is the lack of acknowledgment that I picked we’d trade in twice.

Shame on all of you

 

[BRL121]

What I’m most disappointed about last nights draft is the lack of acknowledgment that I picked we’d trade in twice.

Shame on all of you

You're a star! Elite indeed.

 

[Thylacinus]

What I’m most disappointed about last nights draft is the lack of acknowledgment that I picked we’d trade in twice.

Shame on all of you

Perhaps you could suggest we change the name of the webiste form Bigfooty to Bigego?

 

[crow2crow]

You're a star! Elite indeed.

talking to yourself is the first sign of insanity

 

[cleanhands]

What I’m most disappointed about last nights draft is the lack of acknowledgment that I picked we’d trade in twice.

Shame on all of you

It’s what we come to expect, just the norm

 

[cleanhands]

What I’m most disappointed about last nights draft is the lack of acknowledgment that I picked we’d trade in twice.

Shame on all of you

The knowledge you share with us, makes us far better off

 

[GreyCrow]

Are we seeing a shift towards more speculative prospects being given as much time outside an AFL list to show what they've got?

We've had a couple of main drafts now that have barely passed 60 picks since the introduction of the SSP and mid-season system.

Clubs have many more opportunities to assess speculative late draft types. They can get them as train on players for an SSP spot or wait and see if they show anything the following year and take them mid-season.

I reckon it's only a matter of time before the rookie draft becomes basically useless and only used for re-rookieing players (like we're doing) as clubs prefer to take SSPs instead

This was mooted a few years ago when clubs started adding pre-draftees to training squads etc

Maybe - instead of Turner - we found a way to add Philipou (for example) and get him into the system earlier

 

[Thetrader15]

Hasn't Vader put that to bed re paying out a player's 2023 contract (ie McPherson) as we are already tight for cash due to paying Brown out?

I think there's some doubt to his figures...

 

[Thetrader15]

Are we seeing a shift towards more speculative prospects being given as much time outside an AFL list to show what they've got?

We've had a couple of main drafts now that have barely passed 60 picks since the introduction of the SSP and mid-season system.

Clubs have many more opportunities to assess speculative late draft types. They can get them as train on players for an SSP spot or wait and see if they show anything the following year and take them mid-season.

I reckon it's only a matter of time before the rookie draft becomes basically useless and only used for re-rookieing players (like we're doing) as clubs prefer to take SSPs instead

I think it's time to change the name of the rookie list to the supplementary list, that's what it actually is.

 

[jackster83]

I think it's time to change the name of the rookie list to the supplementary list, that's what it actually is.

The departure lounge might be a better name. A lot of clubs using it as a bit of a dumping ground for players they want to delist.

 

[Scorpus]

The departure lounge might be a better name. A lot of clubs using it as a bit of a dumping ground for players they want to delist.

"Ooops we signed this guy for too long and on too much money. No one else wants them, so how do we get some of his salary outside the cap?"

 

[NTRabbit]

"Ooops we signed this guy for too long and on too much money. No one else wants them, so how do we get some of his salary outside the cap?"

As a frequent flyer, we have our own private booth

 

[jackster83]

As a frequent flyer, we have our own private booth

Not sure whether to laugh or sad react.

 

[Scorpus]

As a frequent flyer, we have our own private booth

There's not enough seats though, a few of them need to remain in the main list lounge

 

[AFC979810]

You’d rather a decent ruck than a donkey right? Unless the rest of your team is elite of course, do you think that’s us?

And Nankervis isn’t a donkey.

Who was the Hawks ruck?

Yeah - but it is the lowest of low priorities.

Hawks premiership ruck man - David Hale, Max Bailey, Jonathan Ceglar and Big Ben McEvoy. Nankervis is a good ruck man. They would have won with him or with a donkey.

 

[George Kramer]

Yeah - but it is the lowest of low priorities.

Hawks premiership ruck man - David Hale, Max Bailey, Jonathan Ceglar and Big Ben McEvoy. Nankervis is a good ruck man. They would have won with him or with a donkey.

This while downplaying of rucks I find really amusing. It’s the one position on the ground that’s solo usually and hence it gets highlighted.

Teams win a flag with an ok ruck, see not important.
Teams win a flag with a gun ruck, yeah but did you see the rest of the team, see not important.

Teams win flags with an average forward, defender or mid and yet no one ever says not to use draft capital on them.

 

[martyparty]

What I’m most disappointed about last nights draft is the lack of acknowledgment that I picked we’d trade in twice.

Shame on all of you

Any tips for Morphettville?

 

[George Kramer]

Any tips for Morphettville?

Don’t bet. I’m the last person you want horse tips from

 

[Danger in Texas]

This while downplaying of rucks I find really amusing. It’s the one position on the ground that’s solo usually and hence it gets highlighted.

Teams win a flag with an ok ruck, see not important.
Teams win a flag with a gun ruck, yeah but did you see the rest of the team, see not important.

Teams win flags with an average forward, defender or mid and yet no one ever says not to use draft capital on them.

I’ve always seen a gun ruck as like an extra midfielder - it’s obviously beneficial to the side, but if your midfield is elite, it’s not absolutely necessary

Geelong and Sydney both made the granny this year with average rucks, but both midfields run deep, which is a lot of the reason why they were so successful

You can carry a few average role players in a great team - you just have to make sure most of your best 22’s depth is of top shelf quality

 

[George Kramer]

This while downplaying of rucks I find really amusing. It’s the one position on the ground that’s solo usually and hence it gets highlighted.

Teams win a flag with an ok ruck, see not important.
Teams win a flag with a gun ruck, yeah but did you see the rest of the team, see not important.

Teams win flags with an average forward, defender or mid and yet no one ever says not to use draft capital on them.

Given our midfield is far from elite, a decent ruck wouldn’t go astray

 

[Danger in Texas]

Given our midfield is far from elite, a decent ruck wouldn’t go astray

And this is the thing - we have a league-average ruck (ROB isn’t crap, but he isn’t exactly good right now either) and a below-average midfield. Hence we’re struggling

Given ROB’s realistically going to spend another four years in our best 22 (barring a trade for a better ruck), the midfield development needs to be a primary focus. It’s getting there, but it’s got a way to go

 

[WeeBlake]

Mutineer who was the tall mobile kpd you were talking about a couple of weeks ago? Local kid, late/rookie chance?

 

[UcantCme]

If the AFL adopt the SANFL last touch out of bounds rule between the 50m arcs the role of the ruck man will change again

There will be less stoppages and rucks will play more like an extra mid, this rule change may convince the club to play RT more as a ruck


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[Danger in Texas]

Mutineer who was the tall mobile kpd you were talking about a couple of weeks ago? Local kid, late/rookie chance?

Probably Marshall, got picked up by the Power last night