List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

36

Andrew Mcpherson

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[Mostyn]

Where is Harry Lemmey ranked in mock drafts now?

Most seem to have him around 40. If you're picking then, the upside would be attractive.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Why?

Early over rating by keyboard spankers or has his form numbers dropped off

Probably a bit of both

 

[Mostyn]

So if rumours are true and Essendon are into Philipou, that might be the reason we gave this years first rather than next year as he would have been gone by our first

Rumours I've heard is that Phillipou is looking very likely to fall late into the first round - a lot of clubs have concerns.

I know that's definitely felt within the recruiting team of at least one club.

 

[George Kramer]

Rumours I've heard is that Phillipou is looking very likely to fall late into the first round - a lot of clubs have concerns.

I know that's definitely felt within the recruiting team of at least one club.

Concerns about what?

 

[Mutineer]

A few reports around some club's have him as a bit of a FIGJAM but I think they're likely confusing that with a 17 year old kid with a good dose of self confidence in his own ability.

 

[Scorpus]

Are clubs on high alert for interstate figjams after the Horne-Francis incident?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Where is Harry Lemmey ranked in mock drafts now?

Great question

I’d say he’s a fair chance to make it through to rookie draft

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Phillipou is fascinating

Wouldn’t surprise me if he went at pick 4 or pick 14

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Phillipou is fascinating

Wouldn’t surprise me if he went at pick 4 or pick 14

Time to leak a bogus scandal

 

[Thetrader15]

Floating an idea on the FS picks.

At the moment clubs get a 20% discount on FS selections, so are picking up players they would never likely get with their normal picks through trading up.

What if there's a sliding scale of this discount, to better reflect what it would actually cost a club to select these players.

e.g. Using the points system:

Picks 1-5: 25% extra points than what pick 1 is worth (i.e. 5000 points for pick 1)
Picks 6-10: Extra 15%
Picks 10-20: Extra 5%
Picks 20-30: As per points
Picks 30-40: 10% discount
Picks 40+: 20% discount

Additionally, if a club picks a player in a particular round, then they must use a pick from that round or earlier as part of matching the bid.

If a club has already had their pick in that round, then they have to use a future, or again, trade back into that round to match. The future pick can then go into deficit.

A club finishing top 4, trading out their first 2 picks for a trade and also securing pick 1 doesn't seem right.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It appears to be a wise move .....move out Pick #23 so as not to be gobbled up my Michalanney .....then "potentially" use both next years 2nd round picks, in high demand, to get back into this Draft

 

[rocket18]

What a strange take. You think that adding a Tassie team will directly reduce the entertainment level of the AFL?

Incrementally it will.

Winding it back to a 12 team ELITE national competition would increase the skill/entertainment level. So the opposite of adding team 15,16,17,18,19 has to decrease the skill/entertainment.

More elite players on the field = better skills = better spectacle.

Its why you get bigger crowds at the AFL then SANFL, bigger crowds at SANFL then Ammos etc

 

[Mutineer]

It appears to be a wise move .....move out Pick #23 so as not to be gobbled up my Michalanney .....then "potentially" use both next years 2nd round picks, in high demand, to get back into this Draft

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But a certain fried chicken retailer and a certain lefty Sith Lord have hit that idea on the head as " not gonna happen" even though Justin Reid has publically stated it's an option. Probably won't happen unless a player in this draft slips dramatically below where Hamish and his crew have them rated but it's still within the realms of possibilities.

Out of interest where is Josh Weddle rated on that board?

 

[Mutineer]

Phillipou is fascinating

Wouldn’t surprise me if he went at pick 4 or pick 14

Essendon or Carlton would be my favourites to select Phillipou at this point.

 

[Betts are off]

Great question

I’d say he’s a fair chance to make it through to rookie draft

In a dead rubber year, Lemmey's slide is becoming one of the more interested parts of this draft for me.

TBH all the tall timber from SA is probably the most interesting component of this year's draft for me. Seems like with the exception of Barnett they are all sliding too

 

[Jeffcrowe]

In a dead rubber year, Lemmey's slide is becoming one of the more interested parts of this draft for me.

TBH all the tall timber from SA is probably the most interesting component of this year's draft for me. Seems like with the exception of Barnett they are all sliding too

Agree -

The only one I quite like is Verrall

Scully is so raw he might have some upside long term

Feel that barnett is overrated by draft watchers

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Essendon or Carlton would be my favourites to select Phillipou at this point.

If I’m Essendon I’m taking him in top 5

 

[Betts are off]

Agree -

The only one I quite like is Verrall

Scully is so raw he might have some upside long term

Feel that barnett is overrated by draft watchers

I like Verrall too, and I'm not against Lemmey as a 199cm swingman, especially if he's available in the rookie draft.

Saw a highlights video of him against North Adelaide playing as an intercepting CHB. Think it's the best footage I've seen of him TBH.

 

[Redline]

It appears to be a wise move .....move out Pick #23 so as not to be gobbled up my Michalanney .....then "potentially" use both next years 2nd round picks, in high demand, to get back into this Draft

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I think we increased our options with the pick swap and getting the extra pick next year but I think it's unlikely unless there is a real slider. Obviously list spots are a problem.

We won't trade next year's first or combine the two second rounders from next year. The most we would do would be one second round in from next year.

As I've said before the problem for us at next year's draft is we will most likely be needing good picks to fill list spots. Wherever possible you only want to be selecting guys in rounds 1-3.

 

[TheVelourFog]

For those that follow the draft closely what's happened to Jackson Broadbent from WA? Was spoken of very highly as a gun ruckman at the start of the year but seems to have fallen even further than Lemmey.

 

[Betts are off]

For those that follow the draft closely what's happened to Jackson Broadbent from WA? Was spoken of very highly as a gun ruckman at the start of the year but seems to have fallen even further than Lemmey.

Maybe theres an element of an oversaturated market of 199cm+ players. With the oversupply pushing down the value of all!

 

[Mutineer]

For those that follow the draft closely what's happened to Jackson Broadbent from WA? Was spoken of very highly as a gun ruckman at the start of the year but seems to have fallen even further than Lemmey.

Very ordinary Nationals campaign and limited athleticism....

 

[Golumless]

If only 45 kids are going to be drafted how can the AFL suggest that introducing a 19th team is good for the game.

The talent pool is going to be spread so thin. Not great for entertainment.

The talent pool being spread thin impacting the quality of the game is a myth, and a pretty lazy argument (seeing it runs on the premise that players are destined to make it/fail - when really the evidence is quite strongly in the opposite camp - the club a player lands at is the single most important thing to determine if they make it or not. Look at how drafting magically turns around once a club sorts out its off-field problems, and how quickly it falls apart once a club starts making bad decisions). There are always going to be teams are good and teams who are going to be dogshit to watch regardless if there is 6 teams or 400. After all, there will always be poorly ran clubs in every league to bring the quality of the product down as the quality of football is primarily about managing player confidence. I'm quite sure all of us can think of examples of near-permanent teams who existed in this bubble. Saints, North in VFL/AFL, South Adelaide/pre-merger Woodville in the SANFL.

The only positive impact of reducing the amount of clubs has is it might artificially for a while make football more special, due to a lower amount of games. Even then though, that's temporary. If you're looking at improving the quality of the game, rule changes is the only short-term thing you could do (and we've seen how difficult that can be to pull off). Otherwise, it's waiting for another style of football to become popular.

This is a weak draft by the looks on things, but there is no doubt there will have been a few diamonds missed by clubs in this draft-pool that'll surface.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

No Isaac Keeler and Harry Barnett at 28?

Some fall from grace for Keeler

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

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[Mutineer]

No Isaac Keeler and Harry Barnett at 28?

Some fall from grace for Keeler

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' October ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey rates the performances of 30 of 2022's top draft prospects

www.afl.com.au

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Personally I think Barnett will go late 1st round/early 2nd round.

No real surprise with Keeler slipping IMO he's almost the biggest boom/bust type in the draft. Hugely athletically gifted with a high ceiling but questions remain re his aggresiveness/physicality at the contest especially in the ruck and his contested marking., gets too easily moved off the ball currently.
Could be a very special footballer IF he puts it all together, that's the big question though....Will he?

For mine he should be developed purely as a forward where his speed on the lead should be a real weapon along with his penetrating kick easily slotting goals from outside 50.