List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and Trading Thread - Part 2

[Scorpus]

Updated list position



And 2024 as it stands

Spoiler

 

[BRL121]

Looks like Michelanney will be our only selection in the ND this year - so no need to demote any senior list players to the rookie list.

Vader, can you elucidate the FS matching abilities of our current three picks? I.e., is there any possibility of having to dip into next years picks?
Thanks.

 

[Bearded Clam]

So is Max any good? Anyone seen him play? What can we expect?

He looks a very good prospect..

But get ready for the nana’s that run the club to “develop” him in the SANFL for a minimum of two years before he gets a look in at AFL level.. because he aint got much meat on his bones..

He needs to go on the Darren “stuff as many pies in your mouth as possible” Jarman diet…

 

[Bearded Clam]

see…


Probably needs to pick up a sponsorship from Banana Boat while he’s at it..

Or get a tan.

 

[Mutineer]

Vader, can you elucidate the FS matching abilities of our current three picks? I.e., is there any possibility of having to dip into next years picks?
Thanks.

We hold picks 46, 56, 59, we get a 20% discount on points required

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

 

[Golumless]

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Probably needs to pick up a sponsorship from Banana Boat while he’s at it..

Or get a tan.

Yeah, he's going to have to be exceptional to get a 2023 debut.

Or, you know, injuries.

 

[DJ75]

So is Max any good? Anyone seen him play? What can we expect?

He's decent, but raw (body wise). He's 2-3 years minimum from AFL

 

[cmndstab]

So our input this year is essentially Rankine, Michalanney, and a decent extra 2023 draft pick.

 

[dogs105]

So our input this year is essentially Rankine, Michalanney, and a decent extra 2023 draft pick.

Might still get someone in the 50s

 

[Crow till I die]

So our input this year is essentially Rankine, Michalanney, and a decent extra 2023 draft pick.

not 100% sure..Reid was a bit cryptic here

Crows to nominate father-son prospect

The official AFL website of the Adelaide Crows Football Club

www.afc.com.au

Adelaide General Manager List Management and Strategy Justin Reid said the pick exchange provides the Club with greater flexibility in the next two national drafts.

“We are continually exploring ways to improve our draft hand and overall playing squad, and central to our decision making are the numerous scenarios that can play out in and around the draft,” Reid said.

“This latest swap of picks aligns with our list management strategy and as always, we will be true to our talent order and see how the draft selections fall on the night.”

 

[dogs105]

Probably completely wrong, but I somehow feel more confident about a trade back into this year's first round now. 2 early seconds for next year is a decent bargaining chip

 

[DJ75]

not 100% sure..Reid was a bit cryptic here

Crows to nominate father-son prospect

The official AFL website of the Adelaide Crows Football Club

www.afc.com.au

Adelaide General Manager List Management and Strategy Justin Reid said the pick exchange provides the Club with greater flexibility in the next two national drafts.

“We are continually exploring ways to improve our draft hand and overall playing squad, and central to our decision making are the numerous scenarios that can play out in and around the draft,” Reid said.

“This latest swap of picks aligns with our list management strategy and as always, we will be true to our talent order and see how the draft selections fall on the night.”

I read that and was baffled.

 

[Crowked]

Does our future 2nd and/or Norths future second buy the pick for Phillipou? I don’t think much has changed in that regard.

 

[GreyCrow]

Not only a stronger draft, but a year where we have a lot of players coming out of contract who won't be continuing in 2024.

That you continue to believe the club has some clue is a nice one to watch

Out of those uncontracted players watch us re-contract 15 and be tight again

 

[GreyCrow]

''the rebuild is complete''

 

[1990crow]

''the rebuild is complete''

"Stacked midfield"

 

[Skippos]

Good trade, good business. Get out of a shit draft and into a comparable spot in a good one. I genuinely reckon what's around at 23 is like 35 most years.

See ya in 12 months.

 

[Numinous]

We hold picks 46, 56, 59, we get a 20% discount on points required

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

Those 3 picks will match a bid at 22 or later.
If after 29 we get to keep and potentially use 59
If after 41 we get to keep 56 & 59

I'm guessing if we have to match a bid before 22 it will also push out next year's pick 23, roughly 1-for-1.

 

[Mutineer]

Probably completely wrong, but I somehow feel more confident about a trade back into this year's first round now. 2 early seconds for next year is a decent bargaining chip

I don't think you're wrong at all, I actually think you're bang on as I posted earlier. I think there's a player we rate that they think goes late 1st early 2nd round that a future 2nd might entice a club to part with a pick on the night if the player is still on the board. If not it's full steam ahead to 2023 with the pick.

 

[1990crow]

Good trade, good business. Get out of a s**t draft and into a comparable spot in a good one. I genuinely reckon what's around at 23 is like 35 most years.

See ya in 12 months.

Interesting times in 2023 offseason.

Number of players likely to be cleared out that we don't in a future flag side.
2023 and 2024 first round picks at our disposal.
Two second round picks.
Probably a big salary cap space to offer up.

 

[1990crow]

Those 3 picks will match a bid at 22 or later.
If after 29 we get to keep and potentially use 59
If after 41 we get to keep 56 & 59

I'm guessing if we have to match a bid before 22 it will also push out next year's pick 23, roughly 1-for-1.

I think bid will come around 25.

 

[crow2crow]

We hold picks 46, 56, 59, we get a 20% discount on points required

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

a first round bid on MM would currently have us go into deficit for our first round next year

thats not happening expect another pick swap to get more points into this year to stop that

 

[1990crow]

a first round bid on MM would currently have us go into deficit for our first round next year

thats not happening expect another pick swap to get more points into this year to stop that

If a bid came in around 15-20 (which it won't IMO) I think the club would consider passing on him and just trade the picks out.

 

[BRL121]

Those 3 picks will match a bid at 22 or later.
If after 29 we get to keep and potentially use 59
If after 41 we get to keep 56 & 59

I'm guessing if we have to match a bid before 22 it will also push out next year's pick 23, roughly 1-for-1.

Doesn't any deficit come right off our first-round pick?

 

[Mutineer]

a first round bid on MM would currently have us go into deficit for our first round next year

thats not happening expect another pick swap to get more points into this year to stop that

Michalanney's not being bid on in the 1st round...

 

[Crow till I die]

a first round bid on MM would currently have us go into deficit for our first round next year

thats not happening expect another pick swap to get more points into this year to stop that

Dont we need the list spots though if we wanted to split say pick 46 for points?