List Mgmt. 2022 List Management: Draft, Trade and FA
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If this happens then there is a spot for Logue down back.
It feels that way, doesn’t it? Is he worth it? I’m obviously in the camp of supporters totally burned by the Hogan trade - and this guy ain’t even KPF we are desperate for…
That 1yr offer on significantly less money initially would have been the biggest slap in the face. It would have been better to not offer anything at all yet. There was zero chance he was going to accept that and if for some reason he did he would be resentful.
Supporters can tell themselves oh but it was performances base so he could have got the same or more. Do people forget how Reece Conca was treated so that he didn't have some incentives triggered. Reece wasnt a great kick, not the most talented but he was a professional and was gamed by the club. Stuff like that comes back to bite.
Drizzie has some great moments in games, but Acres would dominate his wing for 120 minutes. Rarely beaten on the ground or in the air he will be a big big loss.
Supporters can tell themselves oh but it was performances base so he could have got the same or more. Do people forget how Reece Conca was treated so that he didn't have some incentives triggered. Reece wasnt a great kick, not the most talented but he was a professional and was gamed by the club. Stuff like that comes back to bite.
Drizzie has some great moments in games, but Acres would dominate his wing for 120 minutes. Rarely beaten on the ground or in the air he will be a big big loss.
Really hope Logue stays. I watch him on the podcast with David Mundy and he seems to love freo and genuinely gets along with his teammates. Love his work on-field and he always seems to give great effort. Elite athleticism as well. No way I get rid of a guy like that.
If Acres is leaving, I’d put Chapman on the wing. I’d then slot Logue back into the backline where he belongs.
I’d play hardball with lobb as he is very much a required player next year. Make dogs pay overs if they want our leading goal kicker.
As for Jackson I’d be willing to offer two firsts, subject to an independent medical report confirming his knee is ok. The money being spoken of is high but the dockers have shown they can develop ruckman really well and I would put my faith in them to develop Jackson to be a premier ruck. The pairing of him and Darcy is formidable.
Losing darcy Tucker is not ideal for depth but hopefully Erasmus and Johnson are given more time. I think each of them are at least comparable to Tucker in terms of output.
Hope we can hang on to Liam Henry. His vision and game sense is elite. Just needs to hit the gym more and lift his intensity (if possible). Could be a handy wingman or half-forward if given more time to develop.
If Acres is leaving, I’d put Chapman on the wing. I’d then slot Logue back into the backline where he belongs.
I’d play hardball with lobb as he is very much a required player next year. Make dogs pay overs if they want our leading goal kicker.
As for Jackson I’d be willing to offer two firsts, subject to an independent medical report confirming his knee is ok. The money being spoken of is high but the dockers have shown they can develop ruckman really well and I would put my faith in them to develop Jackson to be a premier ruck. The pairing of him and Darcy is formidable.
Losing darcy Tucker is not ideal for depth but hopefully Erasmus and Johnson are given more time. I think each of them are at least comparable to Tucker in terms of output.
Hope we can hang on to Liam Henry. His vision and game sense is elite. Just needs to hit the gym more and lift his intensity (if possible). Could be a handy wingman or half-forward if given more time to develop.
That's what makes it hurt. You feel like these players are invested in Freo's success as much as we are. When they start hunting around for 'better offers', you start to question what's really going on internally. I don't want to be a club that just builds up players for other clubs, and we end up rebuilding for yet another 25 years.
The best thing about today was how many questions were answered.
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Don’t think you can compare him to hogan, freo knew what they were getting with hogan and did the trade anyway.
He can definitely make it as a forward, watching Friday he gets to right spots. Dropped some marks but he can fix that I have no doubt
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I think it's perfect he's going to Carlton.
Other than St Kilda, there's no other club where he's surer to revert to being a (now expensive) spud.
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Overreaction much? And yeah, I expect him to be good and for us to have a decent trading and drafting period.
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Jesse Hogan! Seriously, the two young men appear to have nothing in common.
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He was thinking his offer from Carlton might have taken a hit.
I can categorically tell you we will keep him if we have to. And that as of last week that is a real option.
Raises a few interesting questions if its really the plan. One being how the mix looks with Fyfe also returning, and two being how we plan to balance Jackson as a mid with some leg speed.Jackson the midfielder.
Forward thinking: Dockers eye unique midfield role for Jackson
Luke Jackson appears unlikely to spend too much time in the forward line if his potential move west to Fremantle comes offwww.afl.com.au
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I think Moose has misinterpreted that second guy. I think he was backing Moose up that his version doesn't sell papers like the clickbait does.
I get he’s young and that there’s potential and that he’s not hogan but there are a few aspects of this trade that worries me:
- the media noise around the trade and how much it will cost
- the reported size of contract and the length of it - and the inevitable pressure to perform
Jesse Hogan! Seriously, the two young men appear to have nothing in common.
No one is saying that Jackson has the same handicaps and character flaws of Jesse hogan. I think the concern is around the flow on effects of such a high profile trade to the salary cap, on the pressure to perform to justify the cost and the fallout if he can’t deliver.
People who are arguing he “can be anything” are underplaying the risk that in the same vein a serious injury (touch wood) can totally scupper the investment.
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If we're not prepared to carry out our threats what's the point. I don't think we're that much concerned about the specific compensation for Lobb but how his leaving allows us to achieve other specific things. If Logue leaves suddenly there's cap to enable our threats to be more than hollow.
For those not reading between the lines; we can't recontract Lobb at 600k+ a year, pay Logue and Serong when his contract falls due and get in Jackson. Logue aside Lobb leaving was always about cap space going forward, not 2023.
Yep. Basically lobb comes at a significant discount next year salary wise. Unless we get remuneration that is high pick wise, he’s not worth moving.
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