Preview 2022 Rd 4 Carlton vs Gold Coast Sunday 10th April 4.10PM @ Metricon Stadium

[Coops93]

Less that they're ultra clean in the wet and more that their fumbles are going to be balanced out by opposition fumbles too

More opportunities at ground level would be good for Owies and Durdin, and Fisher in particular has a knack for paddling the ball to advantage and gaining ground at the same time, which I think would be par for the course on a slippery deck.

SPS had a few great games in the wet, not sure about Kennedy as we really just haven't seen enough of him at the top level in the midfield. VFL viewers may have some more insight into how he performed in wet conditions at that level?

Yeah I feel like it's a narrative I've heard before but not sold on its validity.

Wouldn't be surprised though, someone of Kennedys profile you'd expect to be pretty handy in the wet.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Yeah I feel like it's a narrative I've heard before but not sold on its validity.

Wouldn't be surprised though, someone of Kennedys profile you'd expect to be pretty handy in the wet.

Yep, good balance, strength, hands, vision. Lack of pace not as much of an issue. He should be well suited to it.

 

[Coops93]

I highly doubt this is a stat kept by anyone, but would there be anyone with a better possession-per-minutes played ratio in the AFL than Kennedy right now?

My goodness 30 possessions in only 66% game time is ridiculous!

 

[El Topo]

Less that they're ultra clean in the wet and more that their fumbles are going to be balanced out by opposition fumbles too

More opportunities at ground level would be good for Owies and Durdin, and Fisher in particular has a knack for paddling the ball to advantage and gaining ground at the same time, which I think would be par for the course on a slippery deck.

SPS had a few great games in the wet, not sure about Kennedy as we really just haven't seen enough of him at the top level in the midfield. VFL viewers may have some more insight into how he performed in wet conditions at that level?

Kennedy was a wet weather specialist in 2020 - common view at the time was that he was otherwise too slow on a dry deck

 

[swuzzlebubble]

The GC is humid and there are showers about almost daily at the moment. Chances are even if it's not raining there may be a shower or 2, even without that it will be humid and beyond that the extra sweat from the warmth makes the ball slicker. It will feel like a wetter game than usual.

We may want to go slightly shorter as a result. I wouldn't be surprised to see TDK out, though I'm not sure I support it.

Pitto might need a rest if his back is giving trouble.
So if we're looking to go one ruck, go with TDK which frees up the fwd line a bit too?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I highly doubt this is a stat kept by anyone, but would there be anyone with a better possession-per-minutes played ratio in the AFL than Kennedy right now?

My goodness 30 possessions in only 66% game time is ridiculous!

This is absolutely a stat that is referenced

 

[Coops93]

This is absolutely a stat that is referenced

Where would I find it?

 

[TerryWallet]

Good discussion about the team going forward. And mostly healthy discussion.

Isn't it great looking forward to selection night with healthy interest instead of the dread of the known knowns.

We've all got our slight differences of opinions, but i wager that everyone can see the alternatives have merit.

3-0 with plenty of improvement to come.......and some bumps in the road too of course.

 

[skadoosh]

Where would I find it?

I found it referenced here earlier today.

 

[Coops93]

I found it referenced here earlier today.

Doesn't quite look like league wide coverage of disposals-per-minute

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Where would I find it?

I see/hear others using it from time to time but unsure of their source data. Perhaps one of the subscription services?

 

[James_Blues]

I see/hear others using it from time to time but unsure of their source data. Perhaps one of the subscription services?

The AFL app has %TOG listed under its advanced stats for games

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Doesn't quite look like league wide coverage of disposals-per-minute

I found this which has total minutes for season.
Seems to be last year, didn't try and get this year.
Looks like you can toggle total & average

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl/stats/players

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[swuzzlebubble]

The AFL app has %TOG listed under its advanced stats for games

Yes but to compare across games you need actual minutes

 

[Choc Milk]

The GC is humid and there are showers about almost daily at the moment. Chances are even if it's not raining there may be a shower or 2, even without that it will be humid and beyond that the extra sweat from the warmth makes the ball slicker. It will feel like a wetter game than usual.

We may want to go slightly shorter as a result. I wouldn't be surprised to see TDK out, though I'm not sure I support it.

Hehe, I live here! I can see Metricon from my backyard I live on top of a hill not far from the ground.

I just feel like the big guys don't shrink as the game goes on. He isn't bad at ground level and he is quick too. Keep him in for mine.

Ps, was playing at lakelands during the game and came home and watched it on sunday on delay. So good being able to fast forward the breaks

 

[Cliffords Blues]

Yep, because the randoms at the game don't get distracted by hot dogs, screaming kids and that dude three rows forward with a massive plumbers crack, nor do your mates ever discuss anything other than football...

Where are you even going with this?

You claimed that people here see something in LOB that some randoms and a few of your mates don't, that he's not an AFL grade player and doesn't offer much, and despite being afforded some pretty clear indication that he has AFL qualities you just flatly refuse to respond to those?

Our Bluebagger family here and some Randoms at the game can think whatever they like about LOB.

All I care about is what Vossy and the MC think, and so far they have full faith in LOB over the last 3 games and what he is bringing to the table.

Loving LOB attitude and improvement this year, and as his personal confidence grows so should his game.

 

[Arr0w]

I highly doubt this is a stat kept by anyone, but would there be anyone with a better possession-per-minutes played ratio in the AFL than Kennedy right now?

My goodness 30 possessions in only 66% game time is ridiculous!

Here you go, top 20 this year disposals per minutes on the ground (had to use 120 minutes as a standard x TOG). Kennedy is 2nd. Walsh, Cripps, Hewett also in the top 20

Player	DA ↑	% TOG	Minutes
Laird, Rory	31​	68​	82​
Kennedy, Matthew	31.33​	70.7​	85​
Merrett, Zach	35​	82​	98​
Crouch, Matt	29.33​	69.7​	84​
Wines, Ollie	31.67​	75.7​	91​
McPherson, Andrew	10​	24​	29​
Prestia, Dion	10​	24​	29​
Boak, Travis	33​	81​	97​
Macrae, Jack	32.67​	80.3​	96​
Green, Tom	31.33​	77.3​	93​
Oliver, Clayton	34.67​	86​	103​
Walsh, Sam	33​	82.5​	99​
Neale, Lachie	33​	84.3​	101​
Zorko, Dayne	24.67​	63.3​	76​
Keays, Ben	33​	85.7​	103​
Cripps, Patrick	32​	83.3​	100​
Brayshaw, Andrew	31.33​	83​	100​
Petracca, Christian	33​	88.3​	106​
Hewett, George	29.33​	78.7​	94​
Parish, Darcy	31​	83.7​	100​

 

[Coops93]

Hehe, I live here! I can see Metricon from my backyard I live on top of a hill not far from the ground.

I just feel like the big guys don't shrink as the game goes on. He isn't bad at ground level and he is quick too. Keep him in for mine.

Ps, was playing at lakelands during the game and came home and watched it on sunday on delay. So good being able to fast forward the breaks

I live here too, been to every Suns home game (at Metricon) for the last 4 years or so now.

In theory TDK has those attributes, in practice though he's not actually done it yet. I wouldn't back the first time to be in the wet - should it be that way. I doubt we'll drop him though as his use as a 2nd ruck is handy. TDK v Chol could be rather fun ruck contests

I'm getting married soon right near Lakelands

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Don't under estimate coming off a 10 day break early in season , isn't ideal -we came out breathing fire wouldn't surprise me is we had used up some gas in anxiety -- it is the slowest we have run in defence for a long time ..
Martin needs to come in -- Saad would be pressed to come in due to his exit day so close to game day it may be better to have a week training block and play Port at home you don't want fast twitch guys like him pulling hamstrings late in games the way Voss wrapped Boyd in presser wouldn't surprise me if above already planned ..
not sold plow is a third tall intercept defender but he has more experience than other options until McDonald or gov are available ..
Dow keeps this up in VFL can he push someone to rotate off a wing . We could do with his burst speed -- maybe playing in VFL flatters him as he is just to quick for that level -
For some reason the three talls stopped rotating and cycling up the wing in the last half - when they did this we are very easy to defend against .. suppose only the coaching staff know how long pitto was impacted by his back or whether it changed our set up .. but when you have threes it is up to them to find separation .

 

[Coops93]

Here you go, top 20 this year disposals per minutes on the ground (had to use 120 minutes as a standard x TOG). Kennedy is 2nd. Walsh, Cripps, Hewett also in the top 20

Player	DA ↑	% TOG	Minutes
Laird, Rory	31​	68​	82​
Kennedy, Matthew	31.33​	70.7​	85​
Merrett, Zach	35​	82​	98​
Crouch, Matt	29.33​	69.7​	84​
Wines, Ollie	31.67​	75.7​	91​
McPherson, Andrew	10​	24​	29​
Prestia, Dion	10​	24​	29​
Boak, Travis	33​	81​	97​
Macrae, Jack	32.67​	80.3​	96​
Green, Tom	31.33​	77.3​	93​
Oliver, Clayton	34.67​	86​	103​
Walsh, Sam	33​	82.5​	99​
Neale, Lachie	33​	84.3​	101​
Zorko, Dayne	24.67​	63.3​	76​
Keays, Ben	33​	85.7​	103​
Cripps, Patrick	32​	83.3​	100​
Brayshaw, Andrew	31.33​	83​	100​
Petracca, Christian	33​	88.3​	106​
Hewett, George	29.33​	78.7​	94​
Parish, Darcy	31​	83.7​	100​

Nice.

Only the one game for Laird vs 3 for MK. I've decided minimum requirements are at least 2 games to qualify. MK wins

 

[Jatz]

Bit nervous for this week. A game we should be winning. Hopefully there's no complacency - I doubt Voss would allow it to occur after yesterday.

 

[morningbrown]

Pitto might need a rest if his back is giving trouble.
So if we're looking to go one ruck, go with TDK which frees up the fwd line a bit too?

This isn't a slight on Tommy, but he would get destroyed one on one vs Witts for an entire game

 

[Choc Milk]

I live here too, been to every Suns home game (at Metricon) for the last 4 years or so now.

In theory TDK has those attributes, in practice though he's not actually done it yet. I wouldn't back the first time to be in the wet - should it be that way. I doubt we'll drop him though as his use as a 2nd ruck is handy. TDK v Chol could be rather fun ruck contests

I'm getting married soon right near Lakelands

Congrats mate!

We got married at the treasury building in a beautiful suite during covid. (in Brisbane) Saved a fortune!

 

[BigBreakfast]

Often enough to notice a pattern.

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Right, so sniff test.