List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[shinboner magic]

Everyone canning trading a f2 for a similar pick this draft , should look at the go dees who did this with first rounders for 3-4 years on end.
Let’s worry about next year when it comes - we might get a Pickett rated a top 20 talent

 

[The Nostradamus]

Everyone canning trading a f2 for a similar pick this draft , should look at the go dees who did this with first rounders for 3-4 years on end.
Let’s worry about next year when it comes - we might get a Pickett rated a top 20 talent

There was no reason to throw in pick 59 which could have been used for cooper

A straight second round swap is what it should have been

 

[Psicosis]

There was no reason to throw in pick 59 which could have been used for cooper

A straight second round swap is what it should have been

You are way too invested in pick 59.

 

[Farthers]

There was no reason to throw in pick 59 which could have been used for cooper

A straight second round swap is what it should have been

Adelaide wanted points for their father son bid and as others pointed out we weren't using pick 59.

 

[The Nostradamus]

You are way too invested in pick 59.

Just seem to think Brady bends over to sweeten deals when we should be the one getting sweeteners

It’s a principle thing

 

[Psicosis]

Just seem to think Brady bends over to sweeten deals when we should be the one getting sweeteners

It’s a principle thing

They obviously are confident we won’t need 59 for Cooper. Let’s hold fire and see what we end up with on draft night.

 

[shinboner magic]

There was no reason to throw in pick 59 which could have been used for cooper

A straight second round swap is what it should have been

So when you’ve had enough dinner and there’s still a bit of pie leftover - you don’t let anyone else have it in case you want it later

 

[My Left Foote]

ok so can * trade next year's first and second for our pick 3 this yr? They'd be mad for Wardlaw I'd suggest.

Need him tbh, more so than we do.

If you trade your future 1st you need to keep your future 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. or vice versa. The caveat would be if they traded in another club’s future 2nd then they could trade theirs out.

 

[Shinboner1]

Everyone canning trading a f2 for a similar pick this draft , should look at the go dees who did this with first rounders for 3-4 years on end.
Let’s worry about next year when it comes - we might get a Pickett rated a top 20 talent

We got Josh goater with pick 21 last year.
We'll get someone of a similar calibur this year.
Early 2nd rounders are like gold in the draft

 

[buttox]

We got Josh goater with pick 21 last year.
We'll get someone of a similar calibur this year.
Early 2nd rounders are like gold in the draft

They really aren't.
You need 2.7 picks in that range for a 100 game player.
Bigfooty over values them.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

They really aren't.
You need 2.7 picks in that range for a 100 game player.
Bigfooty over values them.

Not reliable like gold, but rare and special like gold.

 

[koshari]

They really aren't.
You need 2.7 picks in that range for a 100 game player.
Bigfooty over values them.

Pretty conservative going by our recent 2nd rounders.

 

[buttox]

Not reliable like gold, but rare and special like gold.

You get more fool's Gold than you do Gold.
I really like the idea of2,3,23 and Cooper.
No trash third round picks taken.
23 is a bit of a punt but it's the only punt we are taking which is good.

 

[buttox]

Pretty conservative going by our recent 2nd rounders.

We are all supporters. We want our Kyron, Perez, comben, Mahoney, Lazzaro etc types to be good players.
Usually they are gone from the list in 4 years.

 

[Shinboner1]

They really aren't.
You need 2.7 picks in that range for a 100 game player.
Bigfooty over values them.

teams that nail 2nd rounders are the ones that shoot up the ladder.

 

[buttox]

teams that nail 2nd rounders are the ones that shoot up the ladder.

Sure nailed picks improve teams. But the chances are low of doing that. We need to improve next year or we will be welded to the bottom 4 for another 2 or 3 years.
We will start losing Ben McKay types from next year if we don't improve.
A pick in the 20s won't improve us next year.
Goater played 1 game last year. Expect similar out put from Cooper and pick 23 next year.

 

[Shinboner1]

Sure nailed picks improve teams. But the chances are low of doing that. We need to improve next year or we will be welded to the bottom 4 for another 2 or 3 years.
We will start losing Ben McKay types from next year if we don't improve.
A pick in the 20s won't improve us next year.
Goater played 1 game last year. Expect similar out put from Cooper and pick 23 next year.

a pick in the 30s made us a better side last year and our pick in the 20s looks very promising.

 

[the flying ham]

We are all supporters. We want our Kyron, Perez, comben, Mahoney, Lazzaro etc types to be good players.
Usually they are gone from the list in 4 years.

I'd really love later picks to be used exclusively on talls and rucks given they take their time to come on. Get them in the system, chuck some weight on them and see if they can become senior footballers. Would love us to draft a 205+ player also, seems like in time that will be the norm required for rucks and even keys

 

[buttox]

a pick in the 30s made us a better side last year and our pick in the 20s looks very promising.

Curtis was great for a second rounder.
We were due a good one.
Perez, Mahoney, Lazzaro, comben, Kyron, Bergman, goater, (I have probably missed some) have not improved our seniors whatsoever at this stage. Some have been on the list 3 years already.
You need to look at the whole picture not just concentrate on the 1 successful pick we have had.

 

[The Y Factor]

I wonder if the Bombers would be interested in a trade given were not apparently into wardlaw anymore.
Say go from 3 to pick 4 and grab their future 2nd for our future 3rd or something.

Is that true that there is thought we aren’t into Wardlaw?

If so, which I’ve not heard then yeah take Seezle then tsiatsis at 4 and get a future second back

 

[buttox]

I'd really love later picks to be used exclusively on talls and rucks given they take their time to come on. Get them in the system, chuck some weight on them and see if they can become senior footballers. Would love us to draft a 205+ player also, seems like in time that will be the norm required for rucks and even keys

We have enough development rucks already imo. Look what Hawthorne payed for meek this year. A third rounder and his development years are pretty much done.
I agree with kpfs though.

 

[shinboner magic]

You get more fool's Gold than you do Gold.
I really like the idea of2,3,23 and Cooper.
No trash third round picks taken.
23 is a bit of a punt but it's the only punt we are taking which is good.

Yeah I remember the heady days of Clarke , hibberd , Wagner and mountford
Those were glory days

 

[DesertRoo]

Sure nailed picks improve teams. But the chances are low of doing that. We need to improve next year or we will be welded to the bottom 4 for another 2 or 3 years.
We will start losing Ben McKay types from next year if we don't improve.
A pick in the 20s won't improve us next year.
Goater played 1 game last year. Expect similar out put from Cooper and pick 23 next year.

I’m not entirely convinced the only reason Goater didn’t play more is because the hole he’d leave in the vfl team.
The lack of kpp depth left us so vulnerable to injury across the list.

 

[Psicosis]

Is that true that there is thought we aren’t into Wardlaw?

If so, which I’ve not heard then yeah take Seezle then tsiatsis at 4 and get a future second back

We’ve interviewed him a few times, so not sure exactly where this is coming from

 

[Nutjob]

There was no reason to throw in pick 59 which could have been used for cooper

A straight second round swap is what it should have been

Can you not fathom that we need to pay a bit extra for something that we get now compared to 12 months later? It happens in literally every other code that does future trading. There is also the unknown of what the future pick will actually be. Adelaide could potentially end up with pick 23. If they do end up with 23, they have just waited 12 months for the same pick.

There are plenty of ways to sort the Harvey points out, if we even need to. Be awesome if you could stop banging on about pick 59, which has very little value.


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