List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[bird_man]

Bowes and Clark are currently 2 very similar players. There would be no drop off swapping them around.

Clark has more potential. But his drive is questionable

I'd take Clark every day and twice on Sundays

Is that how the saying goes? If not ya get my point

 

[Yawkey way]

I hate trade week, we’re the dumb kid who heads off to school with all his rare footy cards that gets scalped trading them for all the other kids doubles. Just watch this all end in tears, then we’ll have to read about all the clever things we tried to do that fell through. It’s going to be great watching Clark become the footballer we wish we had, this club will never learn.

 

[botts]

Salary Cap space is worth more to GC than another first round pick. Cal Twomey was pretty clear on SEN they want to bundle pick 7 and Brodie purely to get someone to take on his backended salary for the next 2 years. The AFL paved the way for these trades earlier this week last year the Brodie deal needed to look at least somewhat balanced to be ticked off by the AFL that is no longer the case. Now maybe there is a sweetener required but it would be future seconds or thirds not our pick 9.

You would have to think they backended most of his wage to resign King etc. I think we would be shocked how much he is due if they are willing to give up pick 7. It is probably all of the JDG money.

If Bowes is a best 22 player that is a bonus the carrot is the pick 7 we are effectively selling Salary Cap space.

If we go this path it is at least a mini rebuild it will hamstring us for the next two years when we are unlikely to have much room for trades or free agents

The review seems to have concluded like most of us we are not going to contend with the current list and we need to hit the draft as hard as possible

They need future picks. I reckon this might actually happen. Long and future to gc. Clark to north for those future and we get Bowes and pick 7. Win win win

 

[bird_man]

Look at last year we know they overpay badly. Maybe you might ask why long would go to the gc if it wasn’t 4 years on good money. He was rumoured to have interest from other clubs and I’m not sure but I assume we made some offer to keep him.

I'll believe it when I see it from the media.

600k us ridiculous money for a fringe player, but stranger things have happened I suppose

 

[Yawkey way]

They need future picks. I reckon this might actually happen. Long and future to gc. Clark to north for those future and we get Bowes and pick 7. Win win win

How is trading clark for unders a win?? We have our own future picks for that deal assuming it’s even a slim chance of happening.

 

[stavro#4]

I'd take Clark every day and twice on Sundays

Is that how the saying goes? If not ya get my point

That wasn’t my point.

They are literally providing the same level of output.

I’ve already said Clark has the highest ceiling. But it means nothing if he never gets there.

 

[Savage Kent]

If Bowes back ended deal us as bad as we're lead to believe, I'd take advantage and trade the following to the suns:
Pick 27, 2023 2nd + Long for Bowes + pick 7

Hit this year's draft with two top ten picks. Get Clark/MacKenzie plus Busslinger.

 

[Sully111]

That wasn’t my point.

They are literally providing the same level of output.

I’ve already said Clark has the highest ceiling. But it means nothing if he never gets there.

He was heading in the right direction and got smashed by injury. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

 

[botts]

How is trading clark for unders a win?? We have our own future picks for that deal assuming it’s even a slim chance of happening.

Because it will net is pick seven. That’s a win

 

[gubby88]

GC, Essendon, Port, WCE could all improve. I think we could really easily go either way. There isn't heaps of internal growth left and if you aren't moving forward you can easily lose ground.

What if Geelong, Melbourne go backwards and those other teams don't improve
And we do

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[BigMonty]

Would rather trade Hill to North for f2 and their non tied f3. Bundle that with Long for 7 and Bowes and FFS KEEP HUNTER CLARK

11

Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

.

Hill is not taking us anywhere near to being a flag contender in the next two years get rid of him to a club that needs older heads.

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[Armoooo]

Jed Anderson will be 29 and never put a consistent season together. He's either injured or up and down. He's like Mason Wood but plays in a position we don't really need another inconsistent depth player for IMO.

Reckon he's an improvement on what we've gotten out of Hill, would be an improvement on Jones as well IMO.

 

[bird_man]

That wasn’t my point.

They are literally providing the same level of output.

I’ve already said Clark has the highest ceiling. But it means nothing if he never gets there.

And if he goes to another club and does reach that ceiling we look like fools unfortunately

Especially if we end up with a few just ok picks for him

I'm not getting too upset about his output when he's had so many injury issues over the last 18 months

Was more than happy with his output prior to injuries

 

[botts]

Would rather trade Hill to North for f2 and their non tied f3. Bundle that with Long for 7 and Bowes and FFS KEEP HUNTER CLARK.

Hill is not taking us anywhere near to being a flag contender in the next two years get rid of him to a club that needs older heads.

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Yes I would rather that to. But north would just trade straight with Gold Coast with there future for pick 7 then

 

[Yawkey way]

Because it will net is pick seven. That’s a win

How? We don‘t need to trade Clark we have our own future picks to get that deal done. All we’d be doing is giving Clark away and that isn’t a win. Pick 7 which is what Clark was then goes to the draft to try and draft someone as good, yeah nah I’m fine thanks.

 

[The Boar]

Any trade hypothetical needs to start with Bowes' nomination first.

Get on a plane Ratts and Gags, get up to GC asap

 

[g_TRAIN]

Is Bowes really a mid though or is he just another HBF with mid potential?

 

[70s sainter]

The way I’m reading it is Gold Coast have salary cap pressure and Bowes is about to receive a lot of his contract in the last 2 years . Therefore no one would want him at such a high price. We’re talking maybe 800 a year?
They’re willing to throw in pick 7 as they don’t need any more kids. They need experience and cash , cash , cash. So why throw all these picks back at them .
How about just long and grab Bowes and pick 7 .
Worth it if I’m reading it right .
Tell me if I’m not

 

[botts]

How? We don‘t need to trade Clark we have our own future picks to get that deal done. All we’d be doing is giving Clark away and that isn’t a win. Pick 7 which is what Clark was then goes to the draft to try and draft someone as good, yeah nah I’m fine thanks.

Well **** me do that then

 

[botts]

How? We don‘t need to trade Clark we have our own future picks to get that deal done. All we’d be doing is giving Clark away and that isn’t a win. Pick 7 which is what Clark was then goes to the draft to try and draft someone as good, yeah nah I’m fine thanks.

You don’t think other clubs will be lining up to do this

 

[bird_man]

Is Bowes really a mid though or is he just another HBF with mid potential?

He was definitely drafted as mid but turned into a back flank by Dew

 

[Munga]

Long to the Suns...
Suns trying to dump salary...

Does it feel like now or never for a Bing move?

 

[michaelcos]

Jack bowes

12

Jack Bowes

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

18.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

can’t cover the ground very well. Still a place for him on the list. If we could spread his money across 3-4 years and grab pick 7 that would be a really good deal.


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[jwikked]

Long to the Suns...
Suns trying to dump salary...

Does it feel like now or never for a Bing move?

Nah, he made his choice. I don’t want the club paying overs to bring him in now

 

[lewdogs]

Long to the Suns...
Suns trying to dump salary...

Does it feel like now or never for a Bing move?

It's pretty strange to see the Suns salary dumping whilst also offering Long a four year deal on what I imagine is very good coin.