Preview 2023 Round 5 Carlton vs Adelaide Thursday April 13 7:40PM AEST @ Adelaide Oval

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


Welcome back Walshy





IN: Blake Acres, Matthew Kennedy, Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

OUT: Sam Docherty (knee), Jack Carroll, Josh Honey, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

Backs:	Lewis Young	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Half-backs:	Nic Newman	Mitch McGovern	Lachie Cowan
Centreline:	Adam Cerra	Patrick Cripps	Ollie Hollands
Half-forwards:	Zac Fisher	Harry McKay	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Ed Curnow	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Tom De Koning	George Hewett	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Blake Acres	Corey Durdin	Matthew Kennedy
	Marc Pittonet
Emergencies:	Jack Carroll	Josh Honey	Lochie O'Brien
	Lachie Plowman

 

[Arr0w]

Plowman played 15 games last year to Kemp's 4 and I don't think he was better equipped, nor do I think their roles were potentially much different. Plowman suffered as much in the air as Kemp may have on the ground balls. I am not sure Kemp could not play on a medium forward. Point is, it is speculation until Kemps gets an opportunity, while all the while he is trending positively

Last year means little this year, as both Plow and Kemp aren't currently playing AFL. Kemp is developing, that doesn't mean he should be selected ahead of others in the team

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Hope we're smart enough to play through a Cowan or [insert Doc replacement] off half back, can see us being too predictable feeding the ball to a heavily marked Saad.

I'm with ya. Last year the Cows did a great job in marking Saad, knowing he's our major playmaker off half back with his run and distribution. Take him out, and you've nullified one of our key weapons - the other being Zilliams unfortunately on the sidelines. Gov can give us that run and carry, but may have his hands full with a Tex or Thilthorp or Fogarty.

Which is why I'd consider bringing Cincotta in - potentially gives us more run off half back - which is why we brought him in to cover for Zach. It's a big ask to bring him in for his first game in front of a hostile crowd, and an opposition with a loaded forward half - but in his own words when drafted "I'm ready to go into battle alongside you guys".

 

[windows1]

We may very well bring in Plowman to okay on one of their smalls. We like go use him on the last line when teams clear out their forward line to give their smalls one on ones in the square. We have been using Newman in this role, but Plowman is quicker.

I’d be stunned. Despite playing well in the vfl team he got found out for his lack of agility even at that level.

 

[windows1]

I’m

Agree. Still some doubt on Fog at the moment. If he's not in Gov goes to Gollant.

I didn't realise how quick Young is until the North game. Did anyone else see him chase down Stephenson as he was running into goal?

His chase caused him to get pinged for running too far...far out the speed was impressive as he had a lot of ground to make up. He absolutely flew past Hollands who was also chasing.

Good observation. Well clocked. He is coming along well. Still seems oddly capable of the bizarre. Like dropping chest marks with no pressure. I feel he is still building self belief.

 

[Jimmae]

We may very well bring in Plowman to okay on one of their smalls. We like go use him on the last line when teams clear out their forward line to give their smalls one on ones in the square. We have been using Newman in this role, but Plowman is quicker.

This is where Kemp can come in, either through replacing Newman there, or allowing Saad to drop deep without us losing much on the rebound.

While I have my thoughts on the best positions for Kemp, that's what he's trained and embedded for presently.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Rather than force a spot for Kemp I back the MC in to make the right call for our side. If they see a spot for Kemp, I back them in, if they don't - I'm not going to be up in arms about it. He looks a real talent, there is plenty of time for him to secure his spot in the side.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

I’m

Good observation. Well clocked. He is coming along well. Still seems oddly capable of the bizarre. Like dropping chest marks with no pressure. I feel he is still building self belief.

Liking Young more and more. He still has the odd poor moment and games where he drops his confidence a bit and starts punching everything rather than marking. But his good is miles in front of his bad and took a key mark towards the end of the Geelong and GWS games to really seal it. Hopefully that self confidence just grows from there.

I can see us dropping Cerra into the back line a bit more this week to allow Fisher to play more midfield minutes and accommodate Walsh. Obviously Fish was a big key to the win last week and he got the 2 coaches votes off Vossy as a result.

If Adelaide wins (which I expect) it will be because their small zippy midfielders get those free runs into their forward line. We have to deny them the ball as much as possible around the clearances to win.

 

[Cringle]

Weitering to Tex
Young to Thilthorpe
Kemp to Fat Fogarty
Newman to Rankine

Saad and McGovern providing the rebound.

Cowan the 7th defender.

 

[TheReal99prelim]

Fisher given coaches votes for his performance last week. Think he’s staying put.

Probaby is staying put...like I said, I'm not going to rely on his 2nd half performance and rejoice Aside from that, he's been very average.

 

[gandaal]

OUT ----------------------> IN

Honey--------------------> Martin
O'Brien ------------------> Acres
Docherty ---------------> Walsh
E.Curnow---------------> Kennedy

Sub: Carroll------------> E.Curnow

 

[TheReal99prelim]

He got Coaches' Votes against North

Let's hope it wasn't just an aberration...my gut feeling is that's exactly what it was

 

[Juddernaut08]

Aside from Docherty, we have our best 22 available this weekend.

Now some will argue:
-Cowan is behind Williams and Boyd - this may be true, but I think the difference is marginal;
-Owies is best 22 - I don't agree, but even so it's arguable between him, Martin and perhaps Honey; and
-Cuningham is best 22 - this may be the case, but this is very much speculation given the time he's spent injured.

Other than that, we have players who don't seem 100% (Hewett) or will probably be a bit rusty (Walsh).

We really should be seeing our running game explode this week with all 4 of Walsh, Acres, Hollands and Ed in the team.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Probaby is staying put...like I said, I'm not going to rely on his 2nd half performance and rejoice Aside from that, he's been very average.

I don’t think Fisher has been that bad since the round 1 game where he went missing after quarter time. He was terrible that night but not on his own there.

Made one or two big blunders against North which turned a very good day into a decent one. The coaches still rewarded him for his game. Stood up and played a massive last quarter against GWS.

Think he is slowly but surely finding the form that saw him have a mini-breakout last year. Still our best hff (which does say a bit about our list) so Voss will stick with him through the rough patches.

 

[Arr0w]

Dropping Newman and replace him with Kemp? fmd

 

[jimsta10]

3 more hours until the teams?..the suspense is killing me

 

[thylacine60]

3 more hours until the teams?..the suspense is killing me

then take them off.....

 

[gandaal]

Aside from Docherty, we have our best 22 available this weekend.

Now some will argue:
-Cowan is behind Williams and Boyd - this may be true, but I think the difference is marginal;
-Owies is best 22 - I don't agree, but even so it's arguable between him, Martin and perhaps Honey; and
-Cuningham is best 22 - this may be the case, but this is very much speculation given the time he's spent injured.

Other than that, we have players who don't seem 100% (Hewett) or will probably be a bit rusty (Walsh).

We really should be seeing our running game explode this week with all 4 of Walsh, Acres, Hollands and Ed in the team.

The difference between Cowan and Williams is marginal?

Owies is not best 22?

 

[Stamos]

Also, **** Adelaide for choosing a Navy jumper.
What's with South Australian campaigners trying to steal other clubs' colours?

 

[F_therest]

Dropping Newman and replace him with Kemp? fmd

Well you know he had to slide that into a post somehow before teams announced

 

[Aphrodite]

Dropping Newman and replace him with Kemp? fmd

We dropping Newman again

 

[Juddernaut08]

The difference between Cowan and Williams is marginal?

Owies is not best 22?

Williams provides more run but can't defend as well as Cowan, and is prone to bad turnovers.

Owies is behind all of Durdin, Motlop and Fisher in terms of smalls...whether you play a 7th forward in the 22 is questionable if we have all our mids avaialble.

 

[Blue__Balls]

The difference between Cowan and Williams is marginal?

Owies is not best 22?

I'd suggest that Cowan is better defensively than Williams - in the sense that he'll come off his man and drop back in the hole for an intercept mark, and he'll commit whole-heartedly to a chase and tackle. His kicking is very good too. However he hasn't yet offered the same kind of run and drive off HB that Williams has done. If both were fit, I think you'd always pick Williams if forced to choose one, but that doesn't necessarily mean we're not as or more balanced with Cowan.

Owies is fringe, and there's nothing wrong with admitting that. By fringe, I mean he's in the 18-26 range on the list. He's been selected pretty much any week he's been available for selection over the last two years, so you could make the case that he's therefore "Best 22". However our injury list in the last couple of years has been diabolical, and it would also be fair to argue that had we had even 80% of our list to choose from most weeks that he might have found himself on the emergency list instead of the starting team sheet. As a Cat B rookie and late to return to the game, he certainly still has scope for improvement and may continue to feature in the future, but if we recruit for the front half then I think he's also one of the first blokes that would be in line to make way for a shiny new first round x-factor goal machine.

 

[BartSimpson]

Dropping Newman and replace him with Kemp? fmd

Surely it’s nothing more than fishing for a reaction. Surely. It can’t be serious can’t it?

 

[Aphrodite]

Also, * Adelaide for choosing a Navy jumper.
What's with South Australian campaigners trying to steal other clubs' colours?

They won the coin toss and got to chose jumpers & change rooms & are also the home team.

 

[Stamos]

They won the coin toss and got to chose jumpers & change rooms & are also the home team.

I hope we wipe those smiles off their faces tomorrow night.