List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

The embedded resources below are kept up to date by the trade board mods (as much as possible – we are human after all). Enjoy!

Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

Courtesy of Lore

 

[akaifu]

Saints TV discussing Liam Duggan

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Liam Duggan

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

283.7

4star

D

16.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

283.7

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

as a potential 'pre-agent' trade option. Either a long-term Jimmy Webster

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Jimmy Webster

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

replacement or to free up Sinclair for full time midfield. I'd imagine he'd be quite expensive though, maybe late first round range considering 3rd in BnF and 26 yrs old.

 

[St Neil]

So by the sounds Freo being reasonable, Carlton being hard to deal with.

That was the biggest surprise. David Walls and SOS had lunch today and a deal appears to be close.

The Dow trade is the one that may take some. time to thrash out.

Totally unexpected.

 

[Joffaboy]

I was more thinking 13 for 17+18

Would need to be 13 and 21 for 17 and 18 I would have thought

 

[austinnn]

Pick 2 & 3 will get it done.

Seriously, if they want a pick around our first, we should be bundling that up with Howard to try and get pick 2 - they need a fullback now. They have enough elite mids now anyway.

 

[Joffaboy]

Seriously, if they want a pick around our first, we should be bundling that up with Howard to try and get pick 2 - they need a fullback now. They have enough elite mids now anyway.

Howard is contracted and has stated he wants to stay at the Saints.

 

[gringo2011]

Gringo:
“Yep 100%, he was Owens when we signed him. Looked like he was the one player we had with elite potential. If he'd stayed fit and kept his progression it would have been a bargain. That's list management. Some work out some don't.”


There was talk at some stage ( maybe just hearsay) that he was a party animal and not the most professional preparer.

In Pou, Owens, Windy and Nas we appear to have much more committed players.

That’s the impression I get anyway.

That wasn't quite my point but yep, the kids look a very committed and determined lot this time. To be fair to that last generation, they were never going to achieve anything in footy under Richo and you would just piss away your career with your inflated wallet and deflated hope.

It will be interesting to see if Gresh takes a leap forward with a loud crowd behind him. He seems like big game player who would feed off the energy.

 

[hangdog]

Alright, starting to get annoyed by the possible Coffield compensation of pick 40.

Fullerton just went to Melbourne for pick 47.

If i live in a world where Coffield is only worth 7 more picks in the 40's than Fullerton then it must be in a parallel universe where everything is evil.

 

[stavro#4]

Alright, starting to get annoyed by the possible Coffield compensation of pick 40.

Fullerton just went to Melbourne for pick 47.

If i live in a world where Coffield is only worth 7 more picks in the 40's than Fullerton then it must be in a parallel universe where everything is evil.

You live in a world where Coffield hasn’t played afl football in 2 years

 

[Silkie]

Alright, starting to get annoyed by the possible Coffield compensation of pick 40.

Fullerton just went to Melbourne for pick 47.

If i live in a world where Coffield is only worth 7 more picks in the 40's than Fullerton then it must be in a parallel universe where everything is evil.

It’s the St Kilda anti tax

 

[hangdog]

Would need to be 13 and 21 for 17 and 18 I would have thought

That would put North up on draft points. If they want to trade up they've got to accept they'll be losing on points difference.

Picks 17 & 18 = picks 13 & 24

 

[gringo2011]

Gresh replacement!

He'd be a bit of an okay depth option but not much more. I honestly didn't realise he was still playing. Years back he looked promising but mustn't have progressed. He'd be good for a side that needed a bit of injury cover but that's about it.

 

[Joffaboy]

That would put North up on draft points. If they want to trade up they've got to accept they'll be losing on points difference.

Picks 17 & 18 = picks 13 & 24

Points don't mean much to us, but maybe a later pick coming back we can use on Dow.

 

[hangdog]

You live in a world where Coffield hasn’t played afl football in 2 years

Neither has Fullerton (barely anyway) and his reason was because he wasn't good enough... Which is my point.

Coffield is over his injuries now and has twice the upside Fullerton does. Fullerton is coming in as a back up, whereas Coffield will be in the best 22 and seen as addressing a weakness on the Dogs list.

 

[SteeleSaints]

One thing that Barrett asked of SOS that sparked my interest was he asked if there was anything potential trades not public yet, which Barrett continued with "I know there is".

SOS played with a straight bat as you would expect. Barrett finished with "perhaps there will be some surprise trades from the Saints".

 

[hangdog]

He'd be a bit of an okay depth option but not much more. I honestly didn't realise he was still playing. Years back he looked promising but mustn't have progressed. He'd be good for a side that needed a bit of injury cover but that's about it.

2 x ACL's derailed him

 

[stavro#4]

Someone listen to this and give me their thoughts on the last 5 minutes.


Barrett absolutely like a hound on the trail of blood about us being into another player.

Am I imagining it and did SOS evade majorly

 

[stavro#4]

Neither has Fullerton (barely anyway) and his reason was because he wasn't good enough... Which is my point.

Coffield is over his injuries now and has twice the upside Fullerton does. Fullerton is coming in as a back up, whereas Coffield will be in the best 22 and seen as addressing a weakness on the Dogs list.

I think you just answered your own question. Both have barely played. Both a pick in the 40s

 

[saintmike65]

That’s irrelevant.

We wanted and are getting a second round pick.

We probably won’t use 55 anyway

 

[Half Back Pocket]

One thing that Barrett asked of SOS that sparked my interest was he asked if there was anything potential trades not public yet, which Barrett continued with "I know there is".

SOS played with a straight bat as you would expect. Barrett finished with "perhaps there will be some surprise trades from the Saints".

Barrett has mentioned this at least 3 times

 

[GTrains Love Child]

Only if his Mum is part of the deal…

 

[tomjoad]

So, something finally happened.
Gresh gone, pick 21 in...no Shiel (thank god)
Henry ticking along.
Dow proving unreasonably problematic.
Coffield looking like a junk pick in a junk draft.
All caught up.
317 pages accurately summarised

 

[Sully111]

Howard confirmed as a saint next year

 

[George]

Saw a post in here earlier about why Carlton has a thread shitting on other posters (but not quoting them directly or screenshotting posts).

Would be a riot to have it on this board. What do we reckon

 

[sammm]

Sos - reasonably close to Henry deal. Had lunch with Freo. Fatty from Freo can eat alot (list manager)

Dow - little bit of work to do

Coffield - not far away from doing something. Weekend or early next week

Just hope we don't get screwed. I thought we were screwed re Bruce, but considering what he did for the 3 years at Bulldogs, in the end I didn't mind.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Neither has Fullerton (barely anyway) and his reason was because he wasn't good enough... Which is my point.

Coffield is over his injuries now and has twice the upside Fullerton does. Fullerton is coming in as a back up, whereas Coffield will be in the best 22 and seen as addressing a weakness on the Dogs list.

I agree with you… but I think it’s more Melbourne being generous as they won’t use the pick.