2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[ScrappyDo]

If you listen to the interview I posted

Wa talent manager thinks Allan is off the board within the top 10 from either us or Melbourne.

The sen boys think it’s us taking him

So, if North retain 2 and don’t Tauru and he doesn’t go before 7. There won’t be a slider and we will be left making a choice between trading 7 or 8 and retaining both and taking the 2 boys we have been hard linked too.

Could we trade our F1 in along with 32 and get something like the Giants 15?


I really want Trainor (but not at 7/8)

Why would GWS do that though? I struggle to see the business case for it.
Doesn't mean it can't happen btw, but till it does it looks a long-shot to me.

Everything rests on having something slightly funky happening at 5&6.

 

[saintmike65]

Same. I think the most important trait in KPFs is work rate. Translates to whether you're a superstar (Rooey) or a role player (Miochek), but I'd be targetting the hardest working key forward in any draft. Faull would be the other one.

I just can’t see Armstrong being THE man in forward 50..he’s fortunate to have had silver service at the dragons

 

[saintmike65]

Why would GWS do that though? I struggle to see the business case for it.
Doesn't mean it can't happen btw, but till it does it looks a long-shot to me.

Everything rests on having something slightly funky happening at 5&6.

The permutations are really interesting…so much hinges on who ends up with pick 2, plus who Melbourne take with pick 5!
I can’t remember such an unpredictable draft

 

[Significant]

Why would GWS do that though? I struggle to see the business case for it.
Doesn't mean it can't happen btw, but till it does it looks a long-shot to me.

Everything rests on having something slightly funky happening at 5&6.

One word. Travaglia.
Rumours are every club between 10-15 has a hard on for him, and Giants have shown they are willing to spend draft capital to get their guy. Coupled with Perryman and Cumming leaving from their wing/defence, it may just be the perfect storm.

 

[Banger9798]

we have to wait for the poor year 12 students, who are slaving away doing exams

Fair enough

 

[Goofy975]

Hey everyone, I’m a new Saints fan and have been lurking for some time now

I’m curious about the comparison between Hunter Clarke and Murphy Reid. Many have noted that they share a similar play style, with some arguing that Clarke is the better prospect. Fellow Saints fans seem worried that Reid could end up being the next Hunter Clarke.

What do you think contributed to Clarke not panning out? Is it due to concerns about speed and athleticism, or could it be that his play style simply didn't fit our Saints' system? So he might have thrived if drafted by another team

 

[ScrappyDo]

The permutations are really interesting…so much hinges on who ends up with pick 2, plus who Melbourne take with pick 5!
I can’t remember such an unpredictable draft

Yeah it's so hard to get a read on.
Looking at the wider context I'd say Carton and Melbourne will want a player that can impact quickly, and Norff are a real chance of swapping with the Crows to land Draper and Tauru respectively.
Richmond get P1 next year so are unlikely to burn capital for p2 this year and will preference upside as they're starting from the bottom.
As the BF phantom has shown it puts the holder of p2 in a conundrum of FOS/Lalor, Draper Tauru.
Richmond owning so many picks basically locks out most other clubs from effecting the top 10. Us and Melbourne could still make a move up but l doubt that happens.
Norff are the linchpin to shaping the top 10 but are also hamstrung by the evenness of the top 6.

 

[goodie23]

Hey everyone, I’m a new Saints fan and have been lurking for some time now

I’m curious about the comparison between Hunter Clarke and Murphy Reid. Many have noted that they share a similar play style, with some arguing that Clarke is the better prospect. Fellow Saints fans seem worried that Reid could end up being the next Hunter Clarke.

What do you think contributed to Clarke not panning out? Is it due to concerns about speed and athleticism, or could it be that his play style simply didn't fit our Saints' system? So he might have thrived if drafted by another team

Clark's injury run is the main problem - one of the top Google results for his name is "Hunter Clark injury". Jaw fractures, concussions, knee injury, calf. When he gets out there he's pretty good, not the first player to have that fate in the first few years. Question is can he finally stay fit.

 

[ScrappyDo]

One word. Travaglia.
Rumours are every club between 10-15 has a hard on for him, and Giants have shown they are willing to spend draft capital to get their guy. Coupled with Perryman and Cumming leaving from their wing/defence, it may just be the perfect storm.

Yes but that implies we give up a top 10 pick to them and move from 8 to 15 for our 2nd live pick. If none of the magic 6 make it to us then we may take Allan and do that deal, otherwise not.

 

[gubby88]

A late option key defender who has been likened to Tom Stewart. He has rejected the call up in the past, but seems keen to give the AFL a go this year -

Traralgon defender Tye Hourigan looms as a bolter for 2024 AFL draft​

He’s 23, already has four best-and-fairests and a premiership medal to his name — and AFL clubs are taking notice. Meet the country footy defender bound for the big smoke.

The whispers out of Gippsland football are becoming more frequent. AFL clubs are watching Traralgon’s Tye Hourigan — and he may be the bolter in this year’s drafts. The 23-year-old is widely regarded as one of the best players in Victorian country football and it’s believed at least one club had recruiters running an eye over him in the Gippy league grand final three weeks ago.

Hourigan, a 193cm defender, played in Traralgon’s premiership win over Leongatha and claimed his fourth senior best and fairest despite missing a few games with injury. For the third consecutive season he was also named at centre half back in the Gippsland team of the year.

Even as a key backman, Hourigan has sometimes been tagged by rival teams. “I hope so. There’s been different inklings here and there,’’ Maroons coach Troy Hamilton responded to speculation that recruiters were on to Hourigan.

“It would be brilliant for him and brilliant for our club.

“I think he could play in the AFL. He’s the best country footballer I’ve seen. I think he could play in the AFL for sure. He’s 6’3 and a bit, he can play on talls or smalls, he’s an elite mark, he runs a 6:20 2km, he’s got pace, he’s an elite user and he reads the footy better than anyone I’ve seen. There is no weakness.’’

Hamilton said Hourigan was “lame’’ with an ankle injury in a match against Morwell this year, prompting the Maroons to play him out of the goalsquare. He kicked six goals.

Former Traralgon coach Jake Best was similarly effusive when asked about Hourigan.

The former Casey VFL player and Vermont premiership forward called him an outstanding player, “in the best three I’ve ever played with’’. “He’s a star mate,’’ Best said. “He’s a tall intercept defender with great skills and he reads the play like someone I’ve never seen.’’

Hourigan has been named in Traralgon’s best players 49 times in his 65 games in the past four seasons.

An official from an opposition Gippsland league club said of Hourigan: “Everything is one-touch clean. He kicks the footy like a mule – hits a bloke on the chest with a 60m drop-punt – and he’ll pick the ball up at pace below his knees, sidestep someone coming the other way and off he goes. “He’s as good a key position player as I’ve seen at our level.’’

Hourigan was runner-up in Gippsland Power’s 2018 best and fairest and trained briefly with Casey Demons before returning to Traralgon.

VFL clubs have sounded him out in the past two years but he’s been content to play for the Maroons as he completes his university studies to be a schoolteacher.

Hourigan is also an accomplished cricketer, captaining a local A grade team

captains centrals and traralgon footy club. great bloke as well, know him personally

On SM-A156E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Goofy975]

Clark's injury run is the main problem - one of the top Google results for his name is "Hunter Clark injury". Jaw fractures, concussions, knee injury, calf. When he gets out there he's pretty good, not the first player to have that fate in the first few years. Question is can he finally stay fit.

Then in that case, isn't it a bit unfair to view Reid negatively when comparing him to Hunter Clarke, given that Clarke's main issue was injuries rather than his skill set

So Reid could actually be a good pick if he was a healthy version of Hunter Clarke?

 

[Broski]

I have been told on good authority by one of my close mates, who has been involved with the club's recruitment team for a number of years, that they are doing an extensive round of interviews with prospects around our picks 7 and 8.

He told me that the club have been curating questions to gather key information about their character, with the hopes of narrowing down who to select in a couple of weeks time.

Last Friday, my mate said a draft document of over 15 questions was created for approval. However, before the document was approved, there was a request from newly appointed staff member, Brendon Bolton.

Excited about his eagerness to insert himself into the recruitment process, the document was subsequently sent to him to add any tracked changes.

The recruitment team were shocked when the document returned with all the previous questions scribbled out and replaced with one question - "do you like biscuits?"

Leaving no stone unturned. Love the attitude from the club.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I have been told on good authority by one of my close mates, who has been involved with the club's recruitment team for a number of years, that they are doing an extensive round of interviews with prospects around our picks 7 and 8.

He told me that the club have been curating questions to gather key information about their character, with the hopes of narrowing down who to select in a couple of weeks time.

Last Friday, my mate said a draft document of over 15 questions was created for approval. However, before the document was approved, there was a request from newly appointed staff member, Brendon Bolton.

Excited about his eagerness to insert himself into the recruitment process, the document was subsequently sent to him to add any tracked changes.

The recruitment team were shocked when the document returned with all the previous questions scribbled out and replaced with one question - "do you like biscuits?"

Leaving no stone unturned. Love the attitude from the club.

If only there was a draftee named Arnotts that was in the mix.

 

[triggering bro]

I have been told on good authority by one of my close mates, who has been involved with the club's recruitment team for a number of years, that they are doing an extensive round of interviews with prospects around our picks 7 and 8.

He told me that the club have been curating questions to gather key information about their character, with the hopes of narrowing down who to select in a couple of weeks time.

Last Friday, my mate said a draft document of over 15 questions was created for approval. However, before the document was approved, there was a request from newly appointed staff member, Brendon Bolton.

Excited about his eagerness to insert himself into the recruitment process, the document was subsequently sent to him to add any tracked changes.

The recruitment team were shocked when the document returned with all the previous questions scribbled out and replaced with one question - "do you like biscuits?"

Leaving no stone unturned. Love the attitude from the club.

FMD you scared the shit out of me for a second I thought Brendan Bolton was a newly addition to our coaching team.

 

[_Maximus_12]

FMD you scared the shit out of me for a second I thought Brendan Bolton was a newly addition to our coaching team.

…. Who’s going to tell him

 

[triggering bro]

…. Who’s going to tell him

Ffs you serious?

 

[triggering bro]

FMD

 

[Broski]

FMD you scared the shit out of me for a second I thought Brendan Bolton was a newly addition to our coaching team.

Please grab a chair before opening the link below. Sending best wishes.

Saints welcome Bolton and Rivers

St Kilda Football Club is pleased to confirm the appointment of Brendon Bolton and Jared Rivers as assistant coaches for Season 2025.

www.saints.com.au

 

[akaifu]

bro is officially triggered

 

[SainterinSydney]

FFS, can this draft period be over yet? Endless phantom drafts, flip flopping hard ons, endless potential pick trades. We all know we are getting Fergus Watts

Fergus Watts

Age

39

Ht

197cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

3.8

1star

K

2.2

1star

HB

1.7

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.6

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

1.6

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.4

3star

and Barry Brooks

Barry Brooks

Age

40

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

4.4

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.4

2star

HO

5.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

2.6

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

0.6

1star

HO

6.2

5star

. And Sydney will get a brownlow medallist with a fourth rounder. Can we just close this thread already

 

[dudeintheswamp]

I just can’t see Armstrong being THE man in forward 50..he’s fortunate to have had silver service at the dragons

Is Armstrong enough to be our man?

 

[sufficientintent]

FFS, can this draft period be over yet? Endless phantom drafts, flip flopping hard ons, endless potential pick trades. We all know we are getting Fergus Watts and Barry Brooks. And Sydney will get a brownlow medallist with a fourth rounder. Can we just close this thread already

Some of us don't have any hobbies apart from meaningless draft speculation ok?

Don't yuck our yum

 

[SainterinSydney]

Some of us don't have any hobbies apart from meaningless draft speculation ok?

Don't yuck our yum

Noted. Also hard on developing for Bo Allan

 

[Joffaboy]

Hey everyone, I’m a new Saints fan and have been lurking for some time now

I’m curious about the comparison between Hunter Clarke and Murphy Reid. Many have noted that they share a similar play style, with some arguing that Clarke is the better prospect. Fellow Saints fans seem worried that Reid could end up being the next Hunter Clarke.

What do you think contributed to Clarke not panning out? Is it due to concerns about speed and athleticism, or could it be that his play style simply didn't fit our Saints' system? So he might have thrived if drafted by another team

I'll give this a go if I may?

I am a Hunter Clark fan and think he has a point of difference in the midfield.

However the collision injuries he has sustained for the past three season has really affected his match fitness, no real preseason for the past two or three and as well all know a good pre season sets you up for the whole year.

He got back on the park and had an unbroken block of 11 straight games. Once relatively match fit he really started to become valuable. He is the best dual sided player I have seen since Leon Cameron although when he got back on the field he was playing inside mid so concentrated on his right. His combo with Steele and Dow and Jones (when they both got match fit) was a big part of our very good last two months of the season.

If you go back and watch the highlights you will see he did a lot of the in and under inside work and got the ball moving our way from the stoppage quite a lot. It was a real improvement and hope for the future.

So I disagree with your premis he hasn't panned out.

So for my second however though....

You can be a fan but can also recognise that he has some glaring deficiencies to work on.

No.1 is his fitness. Never the greatest athlete at the club (although before his injuries, preseason, he was about mid table in the time trials) his TOG is below what it should be for a mid. He needs a big preseason without injuries to get his fitness base up.
No.2 he got a good block of games at the end of the season but he can't rest on his laurels. He was playing inside mid, we just drafted a multiple AA inside mid in Jack Macrae, we have Phillipou developing, Wilson looking for a mid spot, same with Garcia and Windhager. We are likely to get two top ten mids this draft with at least one being an inside mids.

So pressure is on to finally perform as a no.7 dp or he will go the way of Seb Ross.

Oh and Reid reminds me more of Dal Santo than Hunter Clark.

 

[saintbill]

Hey everyone, I’m a new Saints fan and have been lurking for some time now

I’m curious about the comparison between Hunter Clarke and Murphy Reid. Many have noted that they share a similar play style, with some arguing that Clarke is the better prospect. Fellow Saints fans seem worried that Reid could end up being the next Hunter Clarke.

What do you think contributed to Clarke not panning out? Is it due to concerns about speed and athleticism, or could it be that his play style simply didn't fit our Saints' system? So he might have thrived if drafted by another team

I think the injuries are a bit of a cop out. They certainly haven't helped, but they are not the main factor that has limited Clark's career.

I would guess he has bottom 1% in genetics for an AFL listed player. Can't build muscle, is perpetually skinny fat, and his tank and speed are also not there.

His decision making and skill are excellent, but at the end of the day he is coming up against blokes that smoke him athletically.

This makes it hard for him to run out games, and he can't get to 30 possies, which is what you need from a top shelf mid.

Is it fair to put Reid in that category? Doesn't seem like a fair comparison to me. Reid has a good tank and gets a ton of the ball. Looks more Steele Sidebottom than Clark, and I rate Sidebottom highly.