2024 Draft Thread.

[Mat Mann]

Draft Period, November 20–21

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Wednesday, November 20
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Thursday, November 21
• Rookie Promotions: Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Thursday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Friday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Friday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Friday, November 22, 3.20pm

 

[SteeleSaints]

I’ve got no issues with Reid at 8 with anyone linked bar Travaglia & Lindsay.

I feel like any of those mids + Allan could work out well.

I believe Reid in isolation is a player we don’t have on our list. He is nothing like Hunter Clark and I feel like that’s a lazy comparison.

His hands, vision and footy IQ are the equivalence of Nick Daicos, he just hasnt got the same running game as yet. I think like others he will be a very good possibly elite player and would be wrapt to see him in the red white & black.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I think we’re going to have to show a helluva lot next year to attract a player of LDUs calibre.

If we have a year similar to this, and mess these picks up because we’ve tried to be cute then we’re still in no man’s land

For me the primary things we need are a better run with injuries and a functioning forward line with Max playing in it.
Get those and we'll be up to our necks in it.
It's easy to ignore how decimated with injuries we were this year, but the work that was done in that down period should be what sets us up for the future.
Realistically we'll be selecting from about 6 candidates and the rest is really down to luck good or bad. It's not worth any worry, we can't do anything about it.

 

[stavro#4]

Brisbane were ranked 12th for handball efficiency this year and recorded the 3rd least average handballs per game. Conversely, 1st in the league for kicks and 4th for efficiency

Retention is about kicking more than handballing. Which is why I don't rate Bo Allan as high as the others either

You took a skill and made it a game plan.

Do you know what these 10 have in common besides a bucket load of individual achievements?

They all average more handballs than kicks.

If that is Reid’s elite talent. It has a place in the modern game.

 

[gringo2011]

where do you see Reid going ?

The pick after ours to continue the kicks in the nuts.

 

[Mowman]

The pick after ours to continue the kicks in the nuts.

deary me, that made me LOL

 

[gringo2011]

Well its not when you consider the fact that Gross who is predominantly a half forward almost has the same average of clearances as Reid, while Allan, who has limited exposure to midfield prior to this year's Champs and is criticised for his lack of midfield craft, averages more

Gross is an inside mid who played less inside minutes for others to get time on ball. He’s not a HF.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Reid looks quicker than his opponents on the field because he's thinking faster than them and disposes of the footy quickly. I think he's a no brainer if available at our picks.

Going by all the speculation, it seems like this could be on the cards:

Richmond - Lalor
North - Tauru
Carlton - FOS
Adelaide - Draper
Melbourne - Langford
Richmond - Smilie
St Kilda - Smith
St Kilda - Reid

Would be an amazing outcome. Any combination of the 7 mids listed would be great, really. I could also see Richmond taking Smith at 6, leaving Smilie for us. Melbourne could also go for Smith at 5, potentially leaving Lanford for us. We really just need North to take Tauru.

 

[akaifu]

Gross is an inside mid who played less inside minutes for others to get time on ball. He’s not a HF.

I know he's not. Read my other message about him, I said he was rated as one of the better inside mids of this crop last year

We are not talking about the type of player Gross is. We are talking about how much midfield time he got compared to Reid, and the stat comparison

 

[RWB4life]

I'm starting to accept we'll have Reid at one of our picks and hopefully one of the top 6 as well.

Hopefully a future first and a later pick here can get something in the late teens and hope trainor is there or Allan falls

 

[StCicatriz]

Class of 2024: From swimming pool to draft pool, Allan set to make waves

Get to know West Australian midfielder Bo Allan ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft

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Halls head. Big no from me.

Reality is he's not going to be an elite mid. He's not turning in games of 20 disposals. It'd be more like 30.

 

[akaifu]

You took a skill and made it a game plan.

Do you know what these 10 have in common besides a bucket load of individual achievements?

They all average more handballs than kicks.

If that is Reid’s elite talent. It has a place in the modern game.

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You took a skill and made it a player

All those guys have other attributes, except Neale who is one of the GOATs at being extremely good at one thing. If you could guarantee that Reid becomes Neale then I'll happily pay picks 7,8,F1 for him. Statistically, its an extremely slim chance

Green, Crippa massive clearance winners and completely different types

Treloar, Brayshaw, Laird - two way gut-runners. Reid hasn't shown a tendency to run hard defensively (this can be trained)

Serong and Newcombe clearance-winning tackle breakers and came into the AFL with mature bodies (unlike Reid who is nowhere near the physical maturity)

Dunkley an all-rounder - good overhead, defensive, ball-winning, tagging...anything. Reid can't do any of that except ball-winning

Wines - double the size of Reid and good overhead

 

[StCicatriz]

Come join our little SA within Victoria.

Probably the best fit for us i reckon given we have some height and or running ability but not alot of speed.

Shuey vibes.

Worry he might be too undersized for a modern mid.

 

[akaifu]

Probably the best fit for us i reckon given we have some height and or running ability but not alot of speed.

Shuey vibes.

Worry he might be too undersized for a modern mid.

His size is fine given his athletic ability. Agility will help him weave out of traffic. He's pretty built already so is AFL-ready

My doubts are over his kicking, I hope he can be more damaging by foot and not be so handball happy. Would be very happy with him at 7 regardless

 

[Ads734]

Are we talking Nicky Dal / Nas sorta levels here?

Because I'm all for him getting 25-30 a game at 75% and carving teams up... I'm kinda warming up to him TBH

Grab Reid + Tauru/Allen/Sliding mid and I think we will be ok.

More Steele Sidebottom to me.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I know, but its more than double Reid. That is not proportional to their time in midfield

Anyway, that wasn't the point. Point was that Reid is hardly recording better numbers than 2 guys who aren't even close to being recognised as good mids, despite all the rage about him being able to extract the ball and dish it out to his teammates and what not

I think he’s more a distributor than an extractor. Gets ball, makes good decisions.

We need class more than anything IMO.

Fortunately we have more than 1 pick so we’ll hopefully be able to fill a few other gaps with whatever else we end up with.

Not too mention what the young guys already on the list can develop into.


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[SaintSteele9]

If the rumours are true Lalor, FOS, Tauru and Smillie all go top 6. That would mean at least one of Jagga, Langford or Draper is available at 7. Imagine Dees go tall and two of those three are available. No interest in Reid. Manlet.

Imagine Tauru and Armstrong go in the first six.

 

[StCicatriz]

I don't think this is a super draft. It's pretty under whelming if I'm honest.

What it is though is a very even pool. Which i think makes people think it runs deep with lots of quality.

I think it's low on quality there's no real sharp top end. More guys from 15-25 range but lots of them from 1-20.

 

[_Maximus_12]

For me the primary things we need are a better run with injuries and a functioning forward line with Max playing in it.
Get those and we'll be up to our necks in it.
It's easy to ignore how decimated with injuries we were this year, but the work that was done in that down period should be what sets us up for the future.
Realistically we'll be selecting from about 6 candidates and the rest is really down to luck good or bad. It's not worth any worry, we can't do anything about it.

my big concern is the depth we’ve moved on. If we get injuries we’re replacing them with kids.

 

[StCicatriz]

There are no stats on that but a good indication of it is CP to UP ratio

Reid 37/59
Gross 21/59
Jagga 55/64
Allan 23/38

Gross is clearly playing a lot more forward than Reid. And this is a contested player we are talking about - Gross last year was rated as one of the better inside contested mids so if he was playing more mid, his ratio would be a lot higher

Allan's is below par because as I have said, he is new to the midfield therefore one of his biggest weaknesses is stoppage craft. Easily developed at AFL level - as seen with Pou

I disagree on it being easy to teach

He just doesn't have it. It took subi the best part of 6 years to develop Greg Clarks stoppage work but when he went to the highest level it didn't transition because everything is so much quicker and harder.

If Allen is a top 10 pick then SPP would be pick 1 in this draft.

 

[StCicatriz]

His size is fine given his athletic ability. Agility will help him weave out of traffic. He's pretty built already so is AFL-ready

My doubts are over his kicking, I hope he can be more damaging by foot and not be so handball happy. Would be very happy with him at 7 regardless

They'll just put size on him and tie him up is my worry

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I'm Jessica Alba will do that for you

And your a Banger. I'm sold .

 

[SaintsSeptember]

It’s crazy how recruiters look past genuinely good players because they fall in love with with other players traits. I’d be over the moon with Reid, for a midfield full of butchers he’s exactly what we need.

To me Smilie is the kind of player who seduces recruiters, they see his size and lose their marbles. In reality they rarely turn out to be the best option. ( Cripps the exception ).

 

[Darkhour]

To me Smilie is the kind of player who seduces recruiters, they see his size and lose their marbles. In reality they rarely turn out to be the best option. ( Cripps the exception ).

If it's anything, he's not rated in the top 5 when asfaik he looks the goods, and one of his slights is that he doesn't make use of his size, i.e., his upside. My question on Reid is that he is a distributor rather than an extractor. We've got outside mids, but imho we need a line splitting bull.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

It seems most here, don't think we need key forwards in this draft.
OK, on highlights only, but gee Shanahan & Stumpf have good traits, e.g. marking, long kicking & speed off the mark. Stumpf at 196cm ran a 2.86 at the national combine, Hoffman ran that too at the state combine. The fastest time.
Both good goal accuracy percentage too.

 

[The Jack]

I don't think this is a super draft. It's pretty under whelming if I'm honest.

What it is though is a very even pool. Which i think makes people think it runs deep with lots of quality.

I think it's low on quality there's no real sharp top end. More guys from 15-25 range but lots of them from 1-20.

Around about 18 clubs disagree with you. Either that or next years class is the worst ever.