List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[cmndstab]

I'd rather we get smart with our drafting and get Dodson this year so we actually have a long term plan for the Ruck position as opposed to iffy stop gap options like Sam Draper.

As others have said, this is a good plan except that it takes several years for rucks to be ready. We need something to bridge the gap without giving up any significant draft capital.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Not necessarily. They will use F1 somehow and go all in this year otherwise everybody is getting the sack

I think we’ll live trade draft night using our f1 to go after Dodson

 

[jamesclean]

I wouldn't take Sam Draper for free after his flop, dog of a bloke

 

[Multiballz]

I wouldn't take Sam Draper for free after his flop, dog of a bloke

Can't you see him flopping for us?

 

[Macca48]

My best 22 for next year - assuming Peatling and Sid Draper end up with the crows.

In my opinion, Walker only plays if their are serious form concerns for Fog and Thilthorpe

B: Michalanny Butts Keane

HB: Milera. Murray. Laird

C: Cumming Crouch Soligo

HF: Neal-Bullen Fogarty Curtin

F: Keays Thilthorpe Rachele

R: O’Brien Dawson Rankine

Inter: Peatling Draper Hinge Worrell

Sub: Berry



In: Draper, Neal-Bullen, Cumming, Peatling, 1 more

Out: Sloane, Himmelberg, McHenry, Hamill, Gollant

Trade: Himmelberg

Delist: McHenry, Hamill

Retire: Sloane

 

[Mutineer]

I think we’ll live trade draft night using our f1 to go after Dodson

Seems like a lot to give up to get a ruckman, a pick that could be in the top 6 or so next year if we don't make big headway in 2025?

 

[jackster83]

I wouldn't take Sam Draper for free after his flop, dog of a bloke

Nicks will make him front up to a press conference to apologise.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

My best 22 for next year - assuming Peatling and Sid Draper end up with the crows.

In my opinion, Walker only plays if their are serious form concerns for Fog and Thilthorpe

B: Michalanny Butts Keane

HB: Milera. Murray. Laird

C: Cumming Crouch Soligo

HF: Neal-Bullen Fogarty Curtin

F: Keays Thilthorpe Rachele

R: O’Brien Dawson Rankine

Inter: Peatling Draper Hinge Worrell

Sub: Berry



In: Draper, Neal-Bullen, Cumming, Peatling, 1 more

Out: Sloane, Himmelberg, McHenry, Hamill, Gollant

Trade: Himmelberg

Delist: McHenry, Hamill

Retire: Sloane

I have a similar 22
But hope we end up with Finn O’Sullivan

B; Michaelanny - Murray - Worrell

HB: Curtin - Keane - Hinge

C: Cumming - Dawson - Soligo

HF: Rachele - Fogarty - Neale-Bullen

F: Walker - Thilthorpe- Keays

R: O’Brien - Crouch - Rankine

Int : Laird - Milera - O’Sullivan - Nankervis

Sub- Pedlar

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Seems like a lot to give up to get a ruckman, a pick that could be in the top 6 or so next year if we don't make big headway in 2025?

They’ll back themselves in to make the 8

trade 2025 F1 to get Dodson
Next year 2026 F1 for NWM

 

[anyfourcrowseyed]

I have a similar 22
But hope we end up with Finn O’Sullivan

B; Michaelanny - Murray - Worrell

HB: Curtin - Keane - Hinge

C: Cumming - Dawson - Soligo

HF: Rachele - Fogarty - Neale-Bullen

F: Walker - Thilthorpe- Keays

R: O’Brien - Crouch - Rankine

Int : Laird - Milera - O’Sullivan - Nankervis

Sub- Pedlar

Closer to the mark imo, Butts will be emergency for Keane/Murray

Think Dowling is tough to miss out, Taylor/Oscar Ryan a big watch over preseason, wouldn't be shocked to see them round 1

Hopefully an injury free pre-season, reckon Peatling would be starting mid if he chooses us as well

 

[crow2crow]

Yeah I disagree, they want good experience..

Someone like Parker would speak, connect well and drive up the training requirements with the players, still offers years of good football on top of that

What does Laird offer, generally for a player to leave, they want added years on-top, is that a good move for WC?

we know his faults to everyone else he is an A grade mid. stop knocking his price down. do that to opposition players not ours.

 

[crow2crow]

I think we’ll live trade draft night using our f1 to go after Dodson

so do I. hopefully we can squeeze out an F1 back and a late teens pick this year for dodson.

 

[Crow till I die]

They’ll back themselves in to make the 8

trade 2025 F1 to get Dodson
Next year 2026 F1 for NWM

I'd feel more comfortable with this if we land Peatling as our midfield battery would look like this going forward

Dawson, Soligo, Rankine, Curtin, Draper*, Taylor, Edwards, Peatling, Berry.

That gives me hope we can compete with the best as they all develop and as such, then trading out F1 and 2026 F1 the year after to get Dodson and NWM in your scenario is fine.

 

[crow2crow]

I'd feel more comfortable with this if we land Peatling as our midfield battery would look like this going forward

Dawson, Soligo, Rankine, Curtin, Draper*, Taylor, Edwards, Peatling, Berry.

That gives me hope we can compete with the best as they all develop and as such, then trading out F1 and 2026 F1 the year after to get Dodson and NWM in your scenario is fine.

replace Berry with Pedlar and I'm with you

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'd feel more comfortable with this if we land Peatling as our midfield battery would look like this going forward

Dawson, Soligo, Rankine, Curtin, Draper*, Taylor, Edwards, Peatling, Berry.

That gives me hope we can compete with the best as they all develop and as such, then trading out F1 and 2026 F1 the year after to get Dodson and NWM in your scenario is fine.

I really don't like our chances of Draper making it through to pick #4.

 

[Crow till I die]

replace Berry with Pedlar and I'm with you

I have thought that but like Rachele, i see them primarily as small forwards now....but yeah, if they can both also move into midfield it, if developed properly, should be good

 

[Cromulant]

I really don't like our chances of Draper making it through to pick #4.

Another good midfield prospect will though

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Another good midfield prospect will though

Absolutely... which is why I'm not concerned.

 

[screech]

A product of the Reynella Football Club (The Wineflies)

Noticed him there supporting his mates at the GF

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Another good midfield prospect will though

Draper off the board is no loss

Any 1 of

Smith
O’Sullivan *
Lalor *
Smillie
Reid

Are great additions
* is preference

 

[kulak]

 

[crow2crow]

I have thought that but like Rachele, i see them primarily as small forwards now....but yeah, if they can both also move into midfield it, if developed properly, should be good

pedlar should rest forward where he can take a contested mark but he is a mid IMO

 

[AFC979810]

They’ll back themselves in to make the 8

trade 2025 F1 to get Dodson
Next year 2026 F1 for NWM

Why waste a first rounder on a ruckman?!?

 

[Floating Doughnut]

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Peatling’s spike has been even more dramatic looking at his midfield games in isolation.
But even yearly his points per minute (the first stat to track after a position or opportunity change
to predict a breakout season ) has gone from .54 to .90 and that was with only 42% centre bounce attendance . Get him up to 70% CBA he could be returning numbers right up there and that’s what has got every list manager excited. Also averaged 5 tackles in only 59% game time this year.

 

[AFC979810]

Peatling’s spike has been even more dramatic looking at his midfield games in isolation.
But even yearly his points per minute (the first stat to track after a position or opportunity change
to predict a breakout season ) has gone from .54 to .90 and that was with only 42% centre bounce attendance . Get him up to 70% CBA he could be returning numbers right up there and that’s what has got every list manager excited. Also averaged 5 tackles in only 59% game time this year.

There is a reason 7 clubs are interested. His upside is high.

We also do need to acknowledge that there could be a little of the Des Headland affect in play.

Much easier to get off the chain when the opposition is focused on the other superstars in your stacked midfield.