List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading Part 2

[1970crow]

Pies & Roos both showed interest.

Peatling wasn't on our radar at the time... because if he was, along with landing ANB & Cumming, I reckon we would have allowed him to explore other options.

As it is he will be handy depth.

We now have around 30 decent players, which should make a huge difference compared to this season gone, where we traded out depth & lost Sloane early.

I’d prefer the depth to be potential up and coming mids like Dowling, Taylor or Edwards. We’ve also got guys like Pedlar, Curtin & Rachelle that we should be getting minutes into when opportunity arises. Reverting to known low level experienced guys is why we continue to fail to build a genuinely contending group. That said, gut feel is Crouch is on the way out end of next season.

 

[Mutineer]

Every team needs a strong in and under extractor to do the grunt work inside the contest and with Laird a month or two away from his 31st birthday and clearly past his best and Crouch not getting any younger Berry is more than handy depth for that role currently and likely to take over from Crouch in a year or two though I doubt Crouch barring injury falls off as quickly as Laird given his meticulous preparation and recovery.

 

[Scorpus]

I think North Melbourne should have gone Berry over Parker. Parker will probably play one season then need replacing.

Berry could give them 2 or 3 years whilst their youth catches up.

North got Parker for leadership and to set standards. I don't think they care if he only plays a bit

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Imo Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

is still in the top few in the league in getting and dishing the pill.
If he is not injury affected Berry doesn’t play . Laird to the back pocket or sub.
Peatling will provide the extra tackle pressure and spread from Cba and stoppage that we lack.
Rankine for absolute brilliance and Dawson’s class.
Looking forward to next year or happy clapping if you like.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

North got Parker for leadership and to set standards. I don't think they care if he only plays a bit

Great get by North imo.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Every team needs a strong in and under extractor to do the grunt work inside the contest and with Laird a month or two away from his 31st birthday and clearly past his best and Crouch not getting any younger Berry is more than handy depth for that role currently and likely to take over from Crouch in a year or two though I doubt Crouch barring injury falls off as quickly as Laird given his meticulous preparation and recovery.

Peatling. Averaged 5 clearances when not the sub, the same as Berry did from the GWS game onwards (when he was played full-time midfield)

 

[Cromulant]

Peatling. Averaged 5 clearances when not the sub, the same as Berry did from the GWS game onwards (when he was played full-time midfield)

Yep it's pretty much why we've recruited him.

 

[Caputo]

Next time we are bagged for bad drafting McAsey with 10 games at Pick 6. I say DGB Pick 6 28 games.

 

[hugecannon]

Next time we are bagged for bad drafting McAsey with 10 games at Pick 6. I say DGB Pick 6 28 games.

Anyone who watched the Hawks more often care to speculate why he’s failed so dismally?

I thought he showed a reasonable amount of promise in his first couple of years.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yep it's pretty much why we've recruited him.

Also, adds a much needed pacey player.

 

[spenze]

Imo Matt Crouch is still in the top few in the league in getting and dishing the pill.

This is the bit I don't get, if Matt is that good, why do we always need to go +1 at contests to win the ball?

 

[Floating Doughnut]

This is the bit I don't get, if Matt is that good, why do we always need to go +1 at contests to win the ball?

Imo we have been lacking creativity and speed to take advantage of his ball getting ability and clogged our mids with type players. To me Matt’s only job is to get first hands on a loose ball and get it to a player in a better position to spread giving us first opportunity . Peatling and Ranks I reckon will change our breakaway this year. Just my thoughts.

 

[cleanhands]

This is the bit I don't get, if Matt is that good, why do we always need to go +1 at contests to win the ball?

He has to be because our + 1( Murphy) is no good at it

 

[Cromulant]

It's what happens after the initial possession, which Crouch has tried to improve in his game

 

[spenze]

He has to be because our + 1( Murphy) is no good at it

Yeah I don't get it why if we are going plus one half forward role why we didn't have someone who hit the scoreboard and was clean with ball movement.

 

[spenze]

Imo we have been lacking creativity and speed to take advantage of his ball getting ability and clogged our mids with type players. To me Matt’s only job is to get first hands on a loose ball and get it to a player in a better position to spread giving us first opportunity . Peatling and Ranks I reckon will change our breakaway this year. Just my thoughts.

Thanks for the reply, well explained.

 

[cleanhands]

Yeah I don't get it why if we are going plus one half forward role why we didn't have someone who hit the scoreboard and was clean with ball movement.

It is confusing, I don’t get it

 

[rocket18]

This is the bit I don't get, if Matt is that good, why do we always need to go +1 at contests to win the ball?

I thought we'd established Nicks is a moron, his crap gameplan exposing our forwards 1v3 is peak stupidity.

 

[Cromulant]

I thought we'd established Nicks is a moron, his crap gameplan exposing our forwards 1v3 is peak stupidity.

I get the plus one when you're trying to close a game down, but in Nicks' tenure that's not something we've done often

 

[rocket18]

I get the plus one when you're trying to close a game down, but in Nicks' tenure that's not something we've done often

Certainly there are times for it, but it has been Nicks goto for his entire tenure

It is not a finals winning formula.

 

[1970crow]

I get the plus one when you're trying to close a game down, but in Nicks' tenure that's not something we've done often

Even then, you need a better exiting stoppage strategy than hack forward. Getting Laird out of there helps, but we’re still subject to it.

 

[cleanhands]

Even then, you need a better exiting stoppage strategy than hack forward. Getting Laird out of there helps, but we’re still subject to it.

Need ball carriers on the outside

 

[Big Dub]

Yeah I don't get it why if we are going plus one half forward role why we didn't have someone who hit the scoreboard and was clean with ball movement.

If we are using a half forward as our +1 at the contest, you'd actually expect that player to be a high inside 50/ goal assist player, not a goal kicker.

Now sure, Murphy isn't that either. So you should still be confused, just about something slightly different.

Watch ANB this year, it will make more sense. Unless we suddenly stop doing it now that we have the right cattle.

 

[cleanhands]

If we are using a half forward as our +1 at the contest, you'd actually expect that player to be a high inside 50/ goal assist player, not a goal kicker.

Now sure, Murphy isn't that either. So you should still be confused, just about something slightly different.

Watch ANB this year, it will make more sense. Unless we suddenly stop doing it now that we have the right cattle.

Nailed it

 

[Mostyn]

If this were the case we’d have no reason to not sign him for only the one year for list flexibility.

Do we ever re-sign players for one year?