List Mgmt. 2024 List Mismanagement and Trading

[Kane McGoodwin]

I’d like to see Taylor and Curtin traded, simply because I hate seeing talent wasted

I'd prefer we sack Nicks immediately & play them both.

 

[cleanhands]

I'd prefer we sack Nicks immediately & play them both.

Well yes that would be my preferred option, but it’s not what my gut is telling me

 

[Dangerousfield]

Thinking about where our first may be in the draft, talk on the AFL website has Josh Battle

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Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

being talked up as a potential Band 1! Surely that can't be right?

This is just the kind of thing we don't need happening if we are to get a top line mid this year.

 

[GreyCrow]

Key difference is the players - unless specifically negotiated in their contract - have no say in when or where they will be traded


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And yet they ALL manage to get to the club they want

 

[MRB37]

Thinking about where our first may be in the draft, talk on the AFL website has Josh Battle being talked up as a potential Band 1! Surely that can't be right?

This is just the kind of thing we don't need happening if we are to get a top line mid this year.

Apparently the AFL has randomly decided to start taking years into account or something this year and talk is Battle is gonna snag a 6-7 year deal.

 

[Scorpus]

Apparently the AFL has randomly decided to start taking years into account or something this year and talk is Battle is gonna snag a 6-7 year deal.

So it's essential to finish below them

 

[FR0GGY]

Apparently the AFL has randomly decided to start taking years into account or something this year and talk is Battle is gonna snag a 6-7 year deal.

I’ve heard of him, but is he worth a 6-7 year deal?

 

[MRB37]

I’ve heard of him, but is he worth a 6-7 year deal?

No, but that's how the world works with free agency now.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Thinking about where our first may be in the draft, talk on the AFL website has Josh Battle being talked up as a potential Band 1! Surely that can't be right?

This is just the kind of thing we don't need happening if we are to get a top line mid this year.

Doubt band 1 as AFL have updated the salary thresholds for the significant EB increase.

 

[rabidcrow]

And yet they ALL manage to get to the club they want

No they don’t. Most of the top players do - role players but not all. Lillard didn’t want to go to Milwaukee but they offered the best deal (as an example)


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[rabidcrow]

I’ve heard of him, but is he worth a 6-7 year deal?

Values go up when decent players are hard to get. Hardly any quality left off contract - he will be a top 5 target this off season


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[FR0GGY]

Values go up when decent players are hard to get. Hardly any quality left off contract - he will be a top 5 target this off season


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Despite all that is he someone you’d even give a 3 year deal?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I’ve heard of him, but is he worth a 6-7 year deal?

Yep

A free agent KPD

You certainly don't want to be wasting draft capital on that part of the ground

 

[WeeBlake]

Yep

A free agent KPD

You certainly don't want to be wasting draft capital on that part of the ground

Mostly agree but that is a very long deal for an only ok player. Would want to be on modest $$ or with a fair bit performance-related.

 

[FR0GGY]

Yep

A free agent KPD

You certainly don't want to be wasting draft capital on that part of the ground

Didn’t realise he was a kpd, that’s how much i know about him.
But if you’re geelong you can use $’s to gain draft capital.

 

[GreyCrow]

Mostly agree but that is a very long deal for an only ok player. Would want to be on modest $$ or with a fair bit performance-related.

Front loaded with the last 3 years at 50c a year

 

[GreyCrow]

No they don’t. Most of the top players do - role players but not all. Lillard didn’t want to go to Milwaukee but they offered the best deal (as an example)


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Apologies I thought this was about AFL

 

[DJ75]

Doubt band 1 as AFL have updated the salary thresholds for the significant EB increase.

I doubt any of their 'rules' come into it. Completely made up to satisfy whatever outcome they have decided.

 

[GreyCrow]

Doubt band 1 as AFL have updated the salary thresholds for the significant EB increase.

Is salary included for the term of the deal or 1st year?

 

[Crow_68]

Apparently the AFL has randomly decided to start taking years into account or something this year and talk is Battle is gonna snag a 6-7 year deal.

Simple, just finish below St Kilda

 

[MRB37]

Simple, just finish below St Kilda

We're heading that way anyway. Though it would be very on-brand for us to beat them in a few weeks and then end up 2 points ahead of them on the ladder.

 

[Scorpus]

Simple, just finish below St Kilda

I have us finishing 1 win behind them in my ladder predictor (15th overall)

 

[Crow till I die]

I have us finishing 1 win behind them in my ladder predictor (15th overall)

Its actually crucial for us to finish in that 4th bottom spot ad not outside the bottom 4 if you are looking at the top available (ie not academy or f/s aligned) rated mids

Finn O'Sullivan (likely no 1) - North
Josh Smillie - Richmond
Jagga Smith - West Coast
Sid Draper.....US??????

If we finish outside the bottom 4, then the talls look to be coming into it and taking one instead of being able to get one of the best mids would be an absolute disaster for the list

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Is salary included for the term of the deal or 1st year?

Not sure, but I know they didn't adjust properly last year, so everyone was getting higher bands.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I doubt any of their 'rules' come into it. Completely made up to satisfy whatever outcome they have decided.

Not denying that it will still be a lottery, but last year the AFL didn't properly index for the massive EBA, so everyone was a winner.