Preview 2024 Rd 22 Carlton vs Hawthorn Sunday 11th August 1.10PM AEST @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Final Team is in …


2 Changes

AFL team news: Williams returns among two changes

Zac Williams returns to the Carlton side for Round 22.

www.carltonfc.com.au

MILESTONE: Nic Newman

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Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

100 Carlton Games

 

[Crippa#9]

Don't want to hear we have two days extra rest as a factor in us having an upper hand. Have a feeling we'll be overly defensive to try contain the game and maintain a top 8 position and the Hawks will see a chance to make top 8 and will take risks, run, run, run.

Please Voss, let them take risks and play on some instinct and chaos.

100%.
I'm a Voss fan but it has appeared for a while that a number of our players are bogged down in process and system that they've lost their instinct to hunt & find the footy.

Cuningham (when he plays) major victim of this
Cottrell a victim. Motlop, Fantasia, Carroll. Fog, for all his pressure, simply doesn't get the ball enough.

Compare this to the Hawks who play like a team completely unshackled.

 

[Blue By Blood]

100%.
I'm a Voss fan but it has appeared for a while that a number of our players are bogged down in process and system that they've lost their instinct to hunt & find the footy.

Cuningham (when he plays) major victim of this
Cottrell a victim. Motlop, Fantasia, Carroll. Fog, for all his pressure, simply doesn't get the ball enough.

Compare this to the Hawks who play like a team completely unshackled.

100%. Players have to want the ball and not be solely focused on shutting the opponent down. It’s a telltale sign of low confidence and self preservation when that happens. We’ll find out how much we want it early.. hopefully this time we kick accurately and make the most of the momentum.

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[mochacinolatte]

No confidence at all. All I know is Cripps will have a monster game as always and try his best to carry this team.

Can someone please fix our i50 entries for the love of god.

 

[Soapy V]

100%.
I'm a Voss fan but it has appeared for a while that a number of our players are bogged down in process and system that they've lost their instinct to hunt & find the footy.

Cuningham (when he plays) major victim of this
Cottrell a victim. Motlop, Fantasia, Carroll. Fog, for all his pressure, simply doesn't get the ball enough.

Compare this to the Hawks who play like a team completely unshackled.

Very good point. My question is how many players have improved under Voss?

I have been in the rooms several times when Voss has spoken with players and even once in a pre game meeting

Voss has a real presense and players listen. His personality is very strong.

The impression I took away (right or wrong) is he is extremly strong in his opinion and won't be strayed from it. A number of players have said similar. That can be good or bad. It's hard to work out if the players like him as a coach, but they definitely respect him.

He has a plan, is extremely structured and sticks to it no matter what

 

[Ezayyak]

No confidence at all. All I know is Cripps will have a monster game as always and try his best to carry this team.

Can someone please fix our i50 entries for the love of god.

One way is to get Walsh to wear goggles that makes the players appear closer than they really are, maybe then he'd kick it to our forwards in front of them

 

[Soapy V]

So many variations with three games to go
Only a few weeks ago we were 2nd with a game in hand.
One win could get us into finals. Two probably needed
Three wins would likely be Top 4

Feel like we have Three elimination finals coming up

 

[I bleed Blue]

Other way around

Certainly hope so

 

[swuzzlebubble]

So many variations with three games to go
Only a few weeks ago we were 2nd with a game in hand.
One win could get us into finals. Two probably needed
Three wins would likely be Top 4

Feel like we have Three elimination finals coming up

In our favour is how many of the other top 8 play each other

 

[Kruezing]

So many variations with three games to go
Only a few weeks ago we were 2nd with a game in hand.
One win could get us into finals. Two probably needed
Three wins would likely be Top 4

Feel like we have Three elimination finals coming up

We don’t usually respond well to this type of pressure … there’s a difference between last season and this season and that’s expectation … we’ve never handled it well … that’s the big challenge for this group …

 

[Crippa#9]

One way is to get Walsh to wear goggles that makes the players appear closer than they really are, maybe then he'd kick it to our forwards in front of them

It's a good point. Love Walshy and there ain't much you can criticise about him but his kicking inside 50 this year has been diabolical. Constantly sits the ball on top of our forwards heads which, as we know, advantages the defender. Some of his kicks, in particular to Harry this year, have been amateur hour stuff.

Cerra is our best kick inside 50...unfortunately we cant rely on that now

 

[AndyLucimitis]

100%.
I'm a Voss fan but it has appeared for a while that a number of our players are bogged down in process and system that they've lost their instinct to hunt & find the footy.

Cuningham (when he plays) major victim of this
Cottrell a victim. Motlop, Fantasia, Carroll. Fog, for all his pressure, simply doesn't get the ball enough.

Compare this to the Hawks who play like a team completely unshackled.

...until teams and coaches put a bit of work into them (as they did to us on 2022).

 

[Drexl 31]

My emotions are a true relection of the team. Little self belief and confidence. Gosh I hope we can find something as I hope that I can also find some self belief.

 

[BluStreak]

100%.
I'm a Voss fan but it has appeared for a while that a number of our players are bogged down in process and system that they've lost their instinct to hunt & find the footy.

Cuningham (when he plays) major victim of this
Cottrell a victim. Motlop, Fantasia, Carroll. Fog, for all his pressure, simply doesn't get the ball enough.

Compare this to the Hawks who play like a team completely unshackled.

DC has played that way under every coach he has had. Flash in the pan.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

DC has played that way under every coach he has had. Flash in the pan.

Time to find a new whipping boy son. Davey is gone.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Now that is one thing I would like to see. Martin, Williams, Elijah and Motlop forward as ONE unit. Hell yes.

Yep Owies not kicking the distance from 45 out? goodness me can see why there's no contract at this stage..

 

[Crippa#9]

DC has played that way under every coach he has had. Flash in the pan.

Na - he was more 'involved' under previous coaches -for a period there he was our go to guy for inside 50 kicks.

Looks completely lost out there under Voss.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Na - he was more 'involved' under previous coaches -for a period there he was our go to guy for inside 50 kicks.

Looks completely lost out there under Voss.

barely played?

 

[Stamos]

Na - he was more 'involved' under previous coaches -for a period there he was our go to guy for inside 50 kicks.

Looks completely lost out there under Voss.

Was a factor in our good run last year, ran out of puff towards the end of our season.
This year, 2 games, injured, 1 game, injured, 1 game sub, next game injured in the 1st.

 

[Red_man2008]

The hawthorn game plan is fast and quick ball Movement. I think
A high pressure game and our turnover game could come to the front. There seems to be alot of space off turnover as they front run a lot.

We have been favourites in all
Of our last 5 games and come out 1-4. This game we are going in as underdogs which we carry this mantle much better.

 

[JustaBattler]

I always have time for your views, JAB. I hope you’ve had a chance to read the Peter Ryan article in today’s Age. You are both singing from the same song sheet

I don't mind reading links occassionally - but I havent read a newspaper of any kind since I dropped my subscriptions to the WSJ and Financial Times about 10 years ago as for the AGE - I think I stopped dreading lefty propaganda a couple of years after I stopped reading Murdoch crapola and that was decades ago - I'lltry and find the article and use archive to get a read...t@

PS here it is

https://archive.md/r8JuG

 

[AndyLucimitis]

This game we are going in as underdogs which we carry this mantle much better.

Oh god - we've become Essendon !!

 

[Bell Ringer]

If Gov kicks that goal we are probably lauding the kick from Pitt that set it up and not even talking about him being an out.

Delusional take.

Pittonet was awful on Sat night.

 

[juzza316]

Delusional take.

Pittonet was awful on Sat night.

Did I say he wasn't awful? All I am saying is that it wouldn't have been a discussion to omit him for Mirkov or Young.

 

[LemmingMaster]

I think we should threaten to sack the coach...

Fagan - Everyone wanted him sacked....
Hinkley - Everyone wanted him sacked...
Bevo - Everyone wanted him sacked...

They're the three form teams at the moment.