Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

  4star

  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

  4star

  M

  1.3

  1star

  T

  3.3

  4star

  CL

  4.2

  5star

  D

  22.2

  5star

  K

  8.6

  4star

  HB

  13.6

  5star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  6.0

  5star

  CL

  4.6

  5star

  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  1.7

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  2.6

  3star

  M

  3.4

  4star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[baldandbroke]

Wouldn't matter.

He is an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2025 - so whoever wants him can get him.

I meant now, while in contract ... knowing he is an FA at the end of next year.

 

[AFC979810]

which match is it?

My bad. I saw the photo you posted that listed his stat line from the final (10 disposals).

Looking at it again you are using the AFL fantasy points score of 83 points to justify how you didnt think he had a good game. Thats bloody worse than watching the wrong game.

 

[Cromulant]

You wouldn’t bring in Draper on what he’s currently doing, but on what you project him doing going forward. Similar to Fog really, they are both FA’s next year so must have come in similar times, but the reality is, despite being a star junior, Fog is still averaging only 1.5 goals per game, However we all think his next 8 years could be at a very high level.

ROB has already hit his ceiling, but Draper is intriguing. Injury and/or attitude might well stop him achieving his potential, but that potential is undeniable.

I do know the club has been really keen on him for at least 2 years now, so am not surprised this has now been confirmed

I guess it comes down to what is being discussed RE: ruckmen and how important they are.

Does Draper get us closer to a flag ?? IMO no he doesnt, but you're also right in saying he could still very well have improvement in him.

 

[AFC979810]

I meant now, while in contract ... knowing he is an FA at the end of next year.

I wouldn't imagine too much. Ruck values are low. Can't imagine anyone thinking ROB is a missing piece between them and a flag - so the incentive would be to wait another year and get him for free.

 

[1970crow]

Kelly is operational not strategic.

It makes a lot of sense to have someone very senior and experienced to run the whole football department.

Yeh, that's not true. Kelly sits on List Management Committee and Football Strategy Committee and his role is at the apex of the football department.

 

[ams4crows]

Sam wants to stay at the Bombers so if they offer him a good deal he'll sign with the bombers.

 

[50BC]

He kicked 11 goals and had 7 goal assists from 16 matches. ROB has kicked 14 goals and 27 goal assist in 121 games.

He had 21 contested marks from 16 games. ROB had 13 from 21 games.

He is 3 years younger than ROB.

If we managed a straight swap of Draper for ROB it would be a nice upgrade in 2025 or 2026.

It's hard to do a direct comparison of stats as we generally only play 1 fulltime ruck with short relief from a tall forward. Essendon this year mostly played 2 rucks alternating out of the forward line. But for me Draper would be a definite upgrade. But how confusing would it be to have 2 S. Draper's in the 1 midfield.

 

[crow2crow]

My bad. I saw the photo you posted that listed his stat line from the final (10 disposals).

Looking at it again you are using the AFL fantasy points score of 83 points to justify how you didnt think he had a good game. Thats bloody worse than watching the wrong game.

No I watched the game I looked at this just now. Which you still have not done. Admittedly I was not there and sometimes it does look different live but I'm telling you it is an OK game not worthy of 10 bloody votes.

 

[1970crow]

Sloane family are very happy in SA and their best mate/family live here too. Why not see if there’s something on offer from the club you’ve given almost half your life to?

Given?

 

[Amacca 23]

No I watched the game I looked at this just now. Which you still have not done. Admittedly I was not there and sometimes it does look different live but I'm telling you it is an OK game not worthy of 10 bloody votes.

So you know more than the coaches and his impact on the game?

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[ams4crows]

Which at the time would have been considered super high.... but now you'd look and go "yeah why not"

Agree, but who's to say he would have developed as quickly as he has in our team over the saints.

 

[Hodgy]

I love this time of year and the smoke and misdirection managers and clubs spread through the poor naive media hacks, who actually think they’re getting scoops. Every little scrap that gets reported has been carefully leaked to gain an advantage by someone.

This Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

crap is a perfect example. There is no way clubs just decided to pursue him this week. This is 100% Melbourne wanting to move him to appease Petracca and get his huge salary off their books, and they deny it in the media at the same time so they hopefully don’t get bent over in any dealings. Port have done the same with Houston, and GC with Luko. All 3 clubs will end up getting these deals done, and the media boys will clap each other on the back and give each other awards for excellence.

 

[AFC979810]

Its a very weird hill to die on.

The premiership coach and a top 4 coach both say he is the best player on the ground.

He had 1 touch in the backline during the first quarter as the Lions took a 31-2 lead at QTR time. Then he moved to the middle in the 2nd quarter and had the most Clearances, most Centre Clearances, most tackles, 3rd most Inside 50's, 2nd most Contested possessions. All whilst going at 75% DE.

And old mate says he didnt have an impact because he only got 83 fantasy points.

 

[kirky]

Sloaney is EXACTLY the sort of bloke who we should keep at the club.

No, you need to broaden your horizons.

Go off to another club and in a few years comeback.

 

[1970crow]

Fair enough - I thought his title was Football Operations, but it's the more general GM of Football.

He replaced Burton and is balls deep in just about every major decision that occurs in our footy dept.

 

[TryAnHit]

I love this time of year and the smoke and misdirection managers and clubs spread through the poor naive media hacks, who actually think they’re getting scoops. Every little scrap that gets reported has been carefully leaked to gain an advantage by someone.

This Clayton Oliver crap is a perfect example. There is no way clubs just decided to pursue him this week. This is 100% Melbourne wanting to move him to appease Petracca and get his huge salary off their books, and they deny it in the media at the same time so they hopefully don’t get bent over in any dealings. Port have done the same with Houston, and GC with Luko. All 3 clubs will end up getting these deals done, and the media boys will clap each other on the back and give each other awards for excellence.

Geelong would def have a go. They have good culture. Fixed up stengle. They will back themselves

 

[kirky]

Because he’s got skill and makes things happen when he has it. Clearly we all want him to get more of the ball because if he does we will have a very good player and therefore we are more patient, fancy being more patient with talented players instead of getting games into mediocre players.

So why isn’t he getting more of the ball?

 

[GreyCrow]

Oh.... any thing with "horse" in the name is like an Adelaide board running joke for the last decade and should be considered light entertainment/ some what trolling but in a fun way.

It's a big circle

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[Mostyn]

It's hard to do a direct comparison of stats as we generally only play 1 fulltime ruck with short relief from a tall forward. Essendon this year mostly played 2 rucks alternating out of the forward line. But for me Draper would be a definite upgrade. But how confusing would it be to have 2 S. Draper's in the 1 midfield.

I'm not going to lose sleep over it because I don't really rate rucks.

But Draper doesn't feel like enough improvement over ROB to be worth the effort.

 

[Play On Advantage]

Anyone else heard the rumour that Oliver and Petracca no longer get along and don't want to play with each other? Dees would rather keep Petracca.

Let's trade them Laird

 

[Cromulant]

Let's trade them Laird

Goody might even take that TBH.

 

[1970crow]

Sloaney is EXACTLY the sort of bloke who we should keep at the club.

Interesting, I thought he was the captain when our playing group descended to it's worst culture and toxicity in the club's history. He's exactly the WRONG sort of bloke we should keep at the club.

 

[1970crow]

Why is that how do you know what his actual footy intelect is ?

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He was deployed to coaching duties this year, how'd we go?

 

[1970crow]

Really poor take by those on here who think Slaone wouldn’t be an asset at the our club. Very short sighted to correlate his poor late career form with his ability to add value behind the scenes now.

How'd we go under his captaincy?

 

[kirky]

Murphy playing 100+ games is evidence of this...

Think we have reached the point where these players got games coz of lack alternatives.

We have improved our drafting and trading position since 2020 (Tilthorpe, Rachele, Michalanney and Curtin in the first rounds 2020 - 2023) and as each year progresses we are getting better depth.

Murphy has a contract for 2025 but I’d be shocked if he doesn’t end up on the rookie list for 2026.