Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[adelaidecrows]

I trust their opinion as far as retaining him as an assistant coach for many years which speaks to his qualities as an assistant coach

I do not trust our assessment in terms of hiring or promoting people into executive/leadership type roles at the club

Well up until now, Silvers has been the best part of an ordinary toothless yes men. So this is his chance to actually use his experience and get someone. If he cant, again, speaks volumes about the calibre of people we currently have at the club.

 

[jenny61_99]

Not gonna happen unfort re Wright

Is this a feeling or insider info?

 

[MarcusP2]

I guess my concern is that we need a "Director of Coaching" that can actually direct and reign in Matthew Nicks. If we're not going to sack him, then he needs to get a lot better at coaching. That's what you'd hope a role above Nicks would be doing, ensuring the entire coaching panel improves, getting them to work together, cutting out the stupidity.

If we're hiring someone that doesn't have that experience base to draw on, how is he going to effectively manage Nicks who actually has experience in that head coaching role? Would Nicks respect him and learn from him? I mean I hope so but the man is stubborn.

Is that what a director of coaching does?

Brendan Bolton was director of coaching above Alistair Clarkson after being his assistant and then an epic failure as a senior coach. Then straight back to being an assistant. Can't see him telling Clarko anything lol.

Now he's a director of coaching and an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I'd really like to see what the role description is.

 

[1990crow]

Ok so Hogan announced by GWS as their best and fairest.
Nothing about Peatling..

 

[Danger in Texas]

How does Geelong actually get Smith and Oliver.
You'd presume Dogs want a first and a second.
Like Pick 15 and F2.

Unless Oliver for a third rounder actually happens.

I reckon they’ll try to offload someone to get an extra pick of value somewhere. Dunno who that is, maybe Jhye Clark?

 

[1990crow]

I reckon they’ll try to offload someone to get an extra pick of value somewhere. Dunno who that is, maybe Jhye Clark?

Surely not. Don't reckon he's worth a first anymore either.
There's been talk of DeKoning but he's one of Geelongs few decent young players.

 

[jenny61_99]

Ok so Hogan announced by GWS as their best and fairest.
Nothing about Peatling..

Well that’s positive.

 

[adelaidecrows]

How does Geelong actually get Smith and Oliver.
You'd presume Dogs want a first and a second.
Like Pick 15 and F2.

Unless Oliver for a third rounder actually happens.

I dont think they will get Oliver. Frankly, I think Oliver is stuck unless Oliver goes so far as to seek mediation. But I dont think he will get to Geelong. They dont have the capital.

What I do see happening, is when they open up the two years worth of futures for trade, I think players like Oliver can move a lot easier then. But thats 12 months away.

 

[Scorpus]

Is that what a director of coaching does?

Brendan Bolton was director of coaching above Alistair Clarkson after being his assistant and then an epic failure as a senior coach. Then straight back to being an assistant. Can't see him telling Clarko anything lol.

Now he's a director of coaching and an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I'd really like to see what the role description is.

I'm more describing what I think is necessary from a director of coaching role at our club

 

[Shifty Crow]

Is that what a director of coaching does?

Brendan Bolton was director of coaching above Alistair Clarkson after being his assistant and then an epic failure as a senior coach. Then straight back to being an assistant. Can't see him telling Clarko anything lol.

Now he's a director of coaching and an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I'd really like to see what the role description is.

Each club is different - some role titles might be similar however the role profile will differ from club to club

Why it’s always important to pause until the full information is shared.


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[GameofSloanes]

If he was being announced as a line coach you'd find the reaction would be completely different.

The reality is he's coming into a role (Director of Coaching) that he's arguably not completely qualified for.

That's the issue people have with this.

The big clubs have no issue pulling high quality candidates while we have to resort to plucking someone from obscurity, putting him into the position and hoping that he'll deliver.

We essentially did the same thing with Adam Kelly.

Nothing like kelly really, davis has been involved with a successful club
Time will tell if it's a good appointment, but that's true for anyone
Plenty of well known names end up being failures too

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

That doesn't always mean something though.

One of my staff members is a complete dud and I've given glowing referee reports for her in the hope that someone takes her off my hands

He’s worked for 8 years under Fagan and just won a flag, if Fagan thought he was a dud then why was he there so long? Harris Andrews credits Davis with his development; he oversaw the emergence of players like Lohmann this year. Do you seriously think the Crows wouldn’t have asked people like Fagan if he thought Davis was ready for a promotion into a more senior role?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Surely not. Don't reckon he's worth a first anymore either.
There's been talk of DeKoning but he's one of Geelongs few decent young players.

SDK definitely staying, apparently

They’ll need to source an extra pick from somewhere, if they want to trade 15, and the F1 and F2. Dunno who else could be trade candidates off the top of my head

 

[Shifty Crow]

Hogan wins GWS BnF….. no announcement on Peatling decision tonight


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[Scorpus]

He’s worked for 8 years under Fagan and just won a flag, if Fagan thought he was a dud then why was he there so long? Harris Andrews credits Davis with his development; he oversaw the emergence of players like Lohmann this year. Do you seriously think the Crows wouldn’t have asked people like Fagan if he thought Davis was ready for a promotion into a more senior role?

There is no issue with bringing in someone of his experience onto our assistant coaching panel. In fact he would be an excellent addition because we sorely lack experience from premiership clubs

 

[jackster83]

They won’t be announcing sackings at the B&F FFS!

Party pooper!

 

[GameofSloanes]

There is no issue with bringing in someone of his experience onto our assistant coaching panel. In fact he would be an excellent addition because we sorely lack experience from premiership clubs

Except for VB

 

[jackster83]

Except for VB

And Godden.

 

[GameofSloanes]

And Godden.

Gross

 

[Redline]

Is that what a director of coaching does?

Brendan Bolton was director of coaching above Alistair Clarkson after being his assistant and then an epic failure as a senior coach. Then straight back to being an assistant. Can't see him telling Clarko anything lol.

Now he's a director of coaching and an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I'd really like to see what the role description is.

Your right as the title has been used for some very different roles over the years.

I think originally it was a mentor or consultant role. Bolton was more a Senior Assitant, sometimes the role is a 'coach' to the coaches ensuring consistent messages.

Sometimes it is just the guy that does whatever will make life easier for the Senior Coach. So for Nicksy he might swat some flys away or mop up spilt Pepsi.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Is this a feeling or insider info?

It’s been known he’s looking for higher roles so I think he goes to Carlton as CEO

 

[Amacca 23]

It’s been known he’s looking for higher roles so I think he goes to Carlton as CEO

Isnt that position 12 months away

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[relapse]

relapse you need to improve your arguments ..... Jeff is on the money here

Waynus, how about this for an argument....

You're letting your emotions cloud your judgement.

Clearly I'm the only person looking at this from a sensible, emotionally disengaged position.

Not only that, but this is what I do for a living so I'm the only person here who is qualified to have a valid opinion so everyone else's opinion is wrong.

Maybe I should roll with this type of approach instead?

 

[rabidcrow]

I dont think they will get Oliver. Frankly, I think Oliver is stuck unless Oliver goes so far as to seek mediation. But I dont think he will get to Geelong. They dont have the capital.

What I do see happening, is when they open up the two years worth of futures for trade, I think players like Oliver can move a lot easier then. But thats 12 months away.

Or perhaps the AFL could make an exception - to help the Cats out after a tough finish to the year


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[Jeffcrowe]

Isnt that position 12 months away

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Yep , he’s not desperate to get back into footy for sake of it though

Otherwise he would be at collingwood next year in same job