Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

Rumor summary September 30

• Cal Twomey confirms we are interested in James Peatling (link)
• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

  4star

  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

  4star

  M

  1.3

  1star

  T

  3.3

  4star

  CL

  4.2

  5star

  D

  22.2

  5star

  K

  8.6

  4star

  HB

  13.6

  5star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  6.0

  5star

  CL

  4.6

  5star

  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
  13

  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumor summary October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  1.7

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  2.6

  3star

  M

  3.4

  4star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)
• Tom Morris claims the race for Peatling is down to GWS, Adelaide or a Victorian club (link)

Rumor summary October 2

• Ricciuto claims we will announce a director of coaching this week (link)
• GWS have upped their offer for Peatling to four years (link)
• Twomey claims the Peatling decision is down to Adelaide, GWS and Western Bulldogs (link)
• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)
• Kymbo says the Peatling decision is down to Adelaide or GWS (link)
• Poster claims Peatling has decided to stay in Sydney (link)
• Poster claims our offer for Peatling is the best in terms of dollars by far (link)
• We've landed Murray Davis from the Brisbane Lions as coaching director (link)

Rumor summary October 3

• Free agency lodgements for Cumming to Adelaide and Himmelberg to Gold Coast will go through tomorrow (link)
• James Peatling has chosen Adelaide (link)

 

[Vader]

This year's and next years 1st from CARL, achieves those objectives .....otherwise keep Houston, miss the 1st round this year, and use next years F1 for Luko

PORT are still OK in that scenario .....next years Draft, expected to be down on this year .....I don't expect PORT to fold for this years CARL pick only

If Houston nominates Carlton, then Port are restricted to dealing with Carlton.

Port need to get the trade done, and Carlton know that Port keeping Houston is not a viable option, so Carlton have the whip hand here. Port put themselves in this predicament, so nobody should have any sympathy for them.

Carlton are seemingly showing little interest in offering up pick #12, so it's quite possible that the best Port can get is Carlton's 2025 1st.

That may, or may not, be enough to satisfy GC when trading for Luko. Then again, GC's Luko position is exactly the same as Port's Houston position - so they may just have to suck the poopsickle, just like Port will.

The most likely scenario is that Port get Luko, but don't get back into the 2024 1st round. Carlton get Houston, for the price they're willing to pay. GC get Luko off their books, but don't get as much as they're hoping for in return.

 

[Scorpus]

There's something about the Davis hire that reminds me of when we ordered a review of the club but excluded the top decision makers

 

[ftmch]

Good:

• Davis comes to the club in a role that is befitting of his experience
• Davis has premiership club experience, which is extremely valuable to us because we lack that, and he's in a position to assist our other coaches who lack premiership experience

Bad:

• Made up a role for Davis because we didn't want to demote Burns from senior assistant and hurt his feelings, even though his role description is that of a "senior assistant"
• Creating a "Coaching Director" position for someone whose role isn't to direct the entire coaching department means we now won't hire someone who will do that. The hope of getting two new roles (coaching director and a senior assistant) is dashed and now seems to be just the one hire.
• Still no person at the club above Nicks with football experience to provide oversight
• Godden somehow gets promoted and demoted at the same time?

Is Scott Burns still 'Senior Assistant'?

 

[119others]

But you need to take into account the actual number of posters making that noise. I recall a huge hullabaloo with Doedee over Burton, but when you looked closer, it was Marty and Cleric posting over and over and over again, filling pages with anti-Dood sentiment. I doubt many posters had negative views, although, I think with Danger there would have been more reservations posted, given the rare event that came with him where he wasn't coming over to play in his first year.

yes man, agreed overall. the 'vocal minority' often takes over as we all know. and i also think you are correct re Danger being more a widely held view as (1) staying in VIC for yr 12 as you say, (2) passing up the chance to draft (probably)
the most famous surname in SA footy

For a laugh...so many previous posters cancelled or suspended but some old faves here. STO very reasonable here unlike many others.

If 10 mins and want a laugh whilst awaiting official announcements, here is one of the classics

Let me tell you right now - those bitching about Dangerfield..

Those of you bitching about the Dangerfield pick need to grow the **** up. You have no idea how this kid is going to develop, you have no idea how Ebert is going to develop for that matter. Stop putting the AFC down for everything they do when you don't have a time machine yourselves; if...

www.bigfooty.com

- first post by the controversial fightingdreamer99 - Those of you bitching about the Dangerfield pick need to grow the **** up. You have no idea how this kid is going to develop, you have no idea how Ebert is going to develop for that matter. Stop putting the AFC down for everything they do when you don't have a time machine yourselves; if Dangerfield becomes a superstar you'll look like ****wits, and I hope he does because you need it to be stuck up ya.

- next post - Seriously man shut up, we have every right to be anxious about passing on a player who could have played 5-10 next year, and will odds on be a gun, who was local, and available at our pick for a kid who WONT EVEN BE IN THE STATE NEXT YEAR. Seriously man, no wonder you shit every one off


- looking at past comments on dangerfield it seems he is a specialist back pocket/tagger.. i hope there is more to his game then this.

- from the famous Stiffy_18 (up there with his 'if Gibbs could grow another couple of inches he could be the CHF we all desperately desire' when we all assumed he was coming to us as a F/S before the Roach ****** things up for us) - Nothing like Judd. He is much closer to Mattner than he is to Judd.

- Rodney Safetyoval may well be a great player for us, andI hope he is but its my personal opinion that there were better players there who could actually be at our club next season

- and the most on point...fentanyl said: yeah, so when he hits his peak he'll nick off back home to vic.

Fun reading but I couldnt find the original draft thread where people were going completely off the deep end

EDIT - the original and the best

Past Player - Patrick Dangerfield

Patrick Dangerfield ND Pick # 10 - Geelong Falcons Vic Crow nominated to be safteyoval's watcher :D 2007 Pre season and Draft Camp results Pre Season: 187.5cm, 80.4kg, 2.93 20m sprint, 14.1 beep test, 78cm vertical leap Screening: 186.9cm, 82.8kg, 2.92 20m sprint, 8.67 agility...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[TryAnHit]

Would like him at adel. Never got a fair crack

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If Houston nominates Carlton, then Port are restricted to dealing with Carlton.

Port need to get the trade done, and Carlton know that Port keeping Houston is not a viable option, so Carlton have the whip hand here. Port put themselves in this predicament, so nobody should have any sympathy for them.

Oh I agree, Port have brought this on themselves .....and I expect them to have real problems with their list

My POV though is ....if PORT were to accept #13 from CARL .....that means:

1. Houston is swapped for the uncertainty of Pick 14 (father/son)

2. Using a F1 for Lukosius (2nd back) .....leaves them out of next years Draft 1st round

For a team in the supposed Window, point (1) is not a good outcome .....I can see Port missing the Finals

 

[pjcrows]

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Would like him at adel. Never got a fair crack

We definitely need more inconsistent small half forwards.

 

[MRB37]

Is Scott Burns still 'Senior Assistant'?

He was listed as just "Forwards" coach in the AFC article announcing Davis.

 

[Pugsley]

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Would like him at adel. Never got a fair crack

If you can't get a go at Gold Coast, you'd have to ask is he that bad?

 

[Betts are off]

I have really come to like Joe Daniher over the journey. Just seems like a good dude!

He's a substantial loss to that Lions side as well.

 

[Cromulant]

He was listed as just "Forwards" coach in the AFC article announcing Davis.

Maybe we are still looking..... lets ****ing hope so.

 

[GROTTO]

I have really come to like Joe Daniher over the journey. Just seems like a good dude!

He's a substantial loss to that Lions side as well.

Will be interesting if they are on the hunt for a big key forward during this trade period.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

so a bloke who couldn't regularly make gws' 22 is creating hype like he's cripps.

the sun afl media is good at its job, isn't it...

Well spotted!

Peatling is just a fringe AFL player. It is not surprising that GWS never played him in the finals.

 

[Cromulant]

Well spotted!

Peatling is just a fringe AFL player. It is not surprising that GWS never played him in the finals.

Oh boy.....

He played both finals.

 

[Betts are off]

Will be interesting if they are on the hunt for a big key forward during this trade period.

I have a feeling the KPF market it about to explode. With it being a midfielders draft this year, the teams that are needy now will likely be banging down the door this time next year.

Tex might even get another go around with a contender.

 

[Crow till I die]

If Houston nominates Carlton, then Port are restricted to dealing with Carlton.

Port need to get the trade done, and Carlton know that Port keeping Houston is not a viable option, so Carlton have the whip hand here. Port put themselves in this predicament, so nobody should have any sympathy for them.

Carlton are seemingly showing little interest in offering up pick #12, so it's quite possible that the best Port can get is Carlton's 2025 1st.

That may, or may not, be enough to satisfy GC when trading for Luko. Then again, GC's Luko position is exactly the same as Port's Houston position - so they may just have to suck the poopsickle, just like Port will.

The most likely scenario is that Port get Luko, but don't get back into the 2024 1st round. Carlton get Houston, for the price they're willing to pay. GC get Luko off their books, but don't get as much as they're hoping for in return.

Port tend to get creative if they want something. Look at what GC have pick wise and then look at Carlton.

I could see an end scenario where Houston gets to Carlton and Lukosius to Port something like this

Port
in: Lukosius + pick 12 + pick 20
Out: Houston + Port F1

Carlton
in: Houston + Port F1
Out pick 11 + Carlton F1

GC
in: Pick 11 + Carton F1
Out: Lukosius + pick 12 + pick 20

 

[FR0GGY]

Imagine Tex in Brisbane’s side

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Good:

• Davis comes to the club in a role that is befitting of his experience
• Davis has premiership club experience, which is extremely valuable to us because we lack that, and he's in a position to assist our other coaches who lack premiership experience

Bad:

• Made up a role for Davis because we didn't want to demote Burns from senior assistant and hurt his feelings, even though his role description is that of a "senior assistant"
• Creating a "Coaching Director" position for someone whose role isn't to direct the entire coaching department means we now won't hire someone who will do that. The hope of getting two new roles (coaching director and a senior assistant) is dashed and now seems to be just the one hire.
• Still no person at the club above Nicks with football experience to provide oversight
• Godden somehow gets promoted and demoted at the same time?

Sorry, where does it say Burns is the Senior Assistant ? .....I can only see, he's the FWD's Coach

The Club doesn't need to broadcast from the rafters about Burns demotion ......just let it slide thru, and go softly softly.

Protect Burns feelings externally

 

[Cromulant]

I have a feeling the KPF market it about to explode. With it being a midfielders draft this year, the teams that are needy now will likely be banging down the door this time next year.

Tex might even get another go around with a contender.

And of all their injuries, none are key forwards.

 

[Cromulant]

Imagine Tex in Brisbane’s side

Id rather not

 

[jackster83]

I have a feeling the KPF market it about to explode. With it being a midfielders draft this year, the teams that are needy now will likely be banging down the door this time next year.

Tex might even get another go around with a contender.

Maybe we can dupe someone into giving us a pick for Gollant.

 

[Betts are off]

Imagine Tex in Brisbane’s side

I think Tex would suit Sydney TBH. Imagine him on that tiny oval banging them in from just forward of centre.

Grand Final day made me think the Sydney KPF situation is equally concerning.

 

[Cap]

Will be interesting if they are on the hunt for a big key forward during this trade period.

Didn't they have a crack at Fog ?

Might explain that extension discussion

 

[Cromulant]

Maybe we can dupe someone into giving us a pick for Gollant.

He'd probably have a decent career up there, far better and more consistent delivery.

DFA though I reckon.

 

[Betts are off]

Didn't they have a crack at Fog ?

Might explain that extension discussion

Good point. They did have a look at Fog last year right? Or was is 2 years ago.

Might want to ink that one down relatively quickly