Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 25, last 28th August)

[happy_knackers]

man agree 110%. Its a ******* disgrace.

SO easy to rort rules and I wouldnt be surprised Crows (and all clubs) have also done to an extent - players part owners of pubs / property purchases/renos with lots of cash involved etc. Its just after Tippett-gate we would rationally be more risk averse to push the envelope as being caught AGAIN would see horrendous punishments by the VFL - thats almost guaranteed. With Hocking moving from Cats to AFL Footy Ops back to Cats, their ability to not only have 'friendly contacts' in H/O but also understand how far you can push the rules, understanding risk of audit and in different areas and what are the easiest things to get away with is incredible and unsurpassed.

Not sure you can ever stop it. As a Stockbroker if I had the Crows 10 most valuable players as clients - and I was rich enough to afford to do this (which to be clear I am not haha) - then you do buys/sells during the day and disproportionately book the winning trades to Crows players at the end of the day whilst 'absorbing' the losses yourself. Having a 500k-1m portfolio which consistently makes 25-30% 'guaranteed' returns per year can then be factored into the players holistic salary offering when trying to either attract players or retain key players. Crows list managers can sell this point, players can back it up and nobody would seemingly ever be the wiser (except the poor old Stockbroker who may lost 1m/year from absorbing bad trades)

Cats have only ever lost Ablett Jnr in 2 successful decades where they just couldnt stretch the boundaries that far to match 1.5m without triggering massive alarm bells

Its not an even competition. Salary cap rorts, finals at the G,

The AFL secret sauce magic formula somehow managed to coincidently net them a first rounder compensation for Motlop when they just happened to need one to bring Ablett home again too from memory.

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[Magma]

JL named full forward for Gold Coast in the VFL

VFL Team: Experienced ins to face Demons

Five AFL-listed players are among the inclusions for the Gold Coast SUNS’ final VFL home & away match for 2024.

www.goldcoastfc.com.au

i like the look of that r atkins at chb

 

[cleanhands]

i like the look of that r atkins at chb

You must be a CHF

 

[CrowToon]

No, yours was just a very odd post.

We're helping out ANB, and frankly Melbourne as well.

They want to do their right thing for player welfare, and we're coming to the party to assist.

We don't need to pay full price for a player we didn't even pursue.

It's fine for us to take on all of the salary that Melbourne owes him - but it can't be that Melbourne gets a draft pick haul as well.

What he is worth is a very late second or a third. Anything else is an overpay.

Your failure to read a post without jumping around putting words in someone's mouth doesn't make it odd.

If you aren't sure, ask the question. Don't jump to ridiculous conclusions its embarrassing.

 

[Mostyn]

Your failure to read a post without jumping around putting words in someone's mouth doesn't make it odd.

If you aren't sure, ask the question. Don't jump to ridiculous conclusions its embarrassing.

Sorry, your opinion seemed odd. Or at least it seemed to be missing some pretty obvious caveats.

You said Melbourne has done enough morally by releasing him, they didn't have to accept unders.

Sure - except they've already said they're selling something, before putting a price on it. And they're trying to get a return from a buyer that didn't actually express any previous interest in what they're selling.

Basic supply and demand shows that they are in a difficult spot to demand much.

We're going to accept his $500k+ contract. That's the favour we're doing Melbourne. The price will recognise that.

 

[CrowToon]

Sorry, your opinion seemed odd. Or at least it seemed to be missing some pretty obvious caveats.

You said Melbourne has done enough morally by releasing him, they didn't have to accept unders.

Sure - except they've already said they're selling something, before putting a price on it. And they're trying to get a return from a buyer that didn't actually express any previous interest in what they're selling.

Basic supply and demand shows that they are in a difficult spot to demand much.

We're going to accept his $500k+ contract. That's the favour we're doing Melbourne. The price will recognise that.

I didnt actually put any type of draft pick or contract value on it.

I was responding to several posters who seemed to think Adelaide's intent should be to deliberately undercut the situation and by inference play hard ball in that respect and that Melbourne will be bound to accept that tactic.

All I said was that Melbourne shouldn't be compelled to get ripped off completely.

All I said was that in a deal like this both parties acting in good faith is the ideal outcome. If Melbourne are happy to sell at a discount great. If the contract is factored in then great.

Nowhere did I ever say Adelaide needed to overpay. Adelaide don't even need to take him.

 

[FR0GGY]

I didnt actually put any type of draft pick or contract value on it.

I was responding to several posters who seemed to think Adelaide's intent should be to deliberately undercut the situation and by inference play hard ball in that respect and that Melbourne will be bound to accept that tactic.

All I said was that Melbourne shouldn't be compelled to get ripped off completely.

All I said was that in a deal like this both parties acting in good faith is the ideal outcome. If Melbourne are happy to sell at a discount great. If the contract is factored in then great.

Nowhere did I ever say Adelaide needed to overpay. Adelaide don't even need to take him.

ANB is the one that needs to take unders here.
Two clubs are being put out because of his decision to not honor a contract

 

[Smart Fella]

I’d much rather Armin Van Buuren that Tiesto, he has stayed with his trance roots where Tiesto has sold out and gone all EDM.

I thought this was the rumours thread, all I hear is Blah Blah Blah

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[George Kramer]

ANB is the one that needs to take unders here.
Two clubs are being put out because of his decision to not honor a contract

If ANB kicks out Murphy he needs a bump not a dump

 

[Enviable Tradition]

probably, its like Lukosius the other way, if he leaves, I would think its almost nailed on its to the crows

Luko I've heard mixed reports.

Little choppy not so much.

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[FullyBigKPro]

I'd be hunting and sniffing around Brisbane's list...

Keays and Hinge have been absolute steals from them.

Surely they have another one we can jag for half a ham sandwich

 

[Thaiphoon23]

I'd be hunting and sniffing around Brisbane's list...

Keays and Hinge have been absolute steals from them.

Surely they have another one we can jag for half a ham sandwich

There's talk of Robertson wanting out

 

[rabidcrow]

Can you believe the year they won the GF by 80-90 points they brought in FOUR FIRST ROUNDERS - unprecedented:

• Bowes on a salary dump (clearly the flag fave normally has huge amt of spare salary cap)
• Pick 7 as part of Bowes
• Bruhn from GWS
• Henry from Pies for way unders (will kick around 75-80 goals over his first 2 years at Cats)

You couldnt make this shit up

But they are so professional to deal with. good operators! FFS


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[Gtowncrow]

ANB is the one that needs to take unders here.
Two clubs are being put out because of his decision to not honor a contract

Yes, that's right however harsh it sounds.
I don't know the circumstances of why he wants back to Adelaide but no doubt he feels he has no choice. This has resulted in him effectively resigning from his job to move interstate. His employer (MFC) will try to extract what value they can.

Our only role in this is to either accept or decline the ANB $$ demand and the MFC trade deal. No obligation on us.

All that said, I think he would be a handy pickup if his head and his heart are fully in the game. It sounds like there's a traumatic story unfolding away from the public gaze. Is he going to be the player he was before being forced to make such a sudden and undesired life choice?

I hope he is okay and that coming to a supportive Adelaide FC is a great success in this life transition.

...And he kicks 25 goals next year as Murphy's replacement.

 

[jackster83]

There's talk of Robertson wanting out

Pass. He's as slow as a wet week.

Tunstill looks better from what I've seen. Bit of Keays about him.

 

[BunjiMC]

Sounds like ANB would retire if he can't be traded to South Australia and forgo his contract. Therefore whatever Melbourne get for him is a bonus for them. And whatever cash ANB gets is a bonus for him. I'd say a future 3rd gets the job done.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Pass. He's as slow as a wet week.

Tunstill looks better from what I've seen. Bit of Keays about him.

Yep, I like Tunstill

WA kid, though, so you’d think it’s either stay or head to WA, if he gets the choice

 

[Samcro24]

Sounds like ANB would retire if he can't be traded to South Australia and forgo his contract. Therefore whatever Melbourne get for him is a bonus for them. And whatever cash ANB gets is a bonus for him. I'd say a future 3rd gets the job done.

I’ve not paid any attention to this whatsoever so I don’t know the “family reasons.”

Surely no one at 28 walks away from a multi year afl contract. Unless he has a law degree or something.

 

[BunjiMC]

I’ve not paid any attention to this whatsoever so I don’t know the “family reasons.”

Surely no one at 28 walks away from a multi year afl contract. Unless he has a law degree or something.

'Family reasons' definitely doesn't translate to law degree....

 

[Gtowncrow]

I’ve not paid any attention to this whatsoever so I don’t know the “family reasons.”

Surely no one at 28 walks away from a multi year afl contract. Unless he has a law degree or something.

Well he does have a hyphenated surname and played for Melbourne. Screams barrister to me....

 

[hippyhippy]

Sounds like ANB would retire if he can't be traded to South Australia and forgo his contract. Therefore whatever Melbourne get for him is a bonus for them. And whatever cash ANB gets is a bonus for him. I'd say a future 3rd gets the job done.

A 3rd rounder id very fair imho and it's a value that's shows good faith

 

[BunjiMC]

A 3rd rounder id very fair imho and it's a value that's shows good faith

I think it's a good deal all round considering the lower than expected contract. It's a low risk deal for us, Melbourne get something and ANB can continue playing AFL.

 

[George Kramer]

Unfortunately sounds like ANB personal reasons might be serious so reckon both clubs will be fair

 

[119others]

Luko I've heard mixed reports.

Little choppy not so much.

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What does this mean? ANB is “little choppy”?

And Luko - how would Power get the deal done after giving away most of your picks on premium KPD/rucks? Not sure why Luko would want Power either to be frank

 

[FR0GGY]

What does this mean? ANB is “little choppy”?

And Luko - how would Power get the deal done after giving away most of your picks on premium KPD/rucks? Not sure why Luko would want Power either to be frank

Little choppy is Pickett