They were saying somewhere, the club pays the fine anyway.
But one minute they want Ken shot into the sun, now they're going all gofundme on his ass.
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But one minute they want Ken shot into the sun, now they're going all gofundme on his ass.
Come Saturday morning lets just hope they want him shot into the sun again.They were saying somewhere, the club pays the fine anyway.
But one minute they want Ken shot into the sun, now they're going all gofundme on his ass.
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If the decision hadn't been made during the preseason and they were holding the announcement for marketing reasons, then that just further evidences the backward priorities of this club. If it hadn't been made and they did so for the reason stated (eliminating noise on his contract) then that is even worse.
Now you're rewriting history ....I'll guarantee, your vote in the polls at the start of the year, was to make Finals .....most posters did
So ...we were going to make Finals, despite having a bad Coach
There would be nothing illogical about rating our list as top 4 and predicting we'll finish 8th because the coaching group is a handicap to success. What is illogical is all the posters that predicted Cats finishing 12th with an accepted gun coach and coaching group, great home ground advantage and known well run and stable club and then crying "Costa living allowance" when they make a preliminary final. If the list was that stacked and paid bunches outside of the cap, then surely with their other advantages, those posters should have predicted a very high finish.
What I feel is that if they have contradictory views or they think there's a fair bit of change required, they won't get the gig in the first place. I think we're a club that will be seeking support for what's already in place, we're not looking to tear anything down and go in a different direction.
So in essence the club is adding another layer on top of Nicks and Kelly?
What did Bucks have to say?
It's kind of in the back of my mind hours later but think it was :
Sometimes the balance between enjoying what you do and working hard can be slightly out of whack and someone may need to come in and help that balance. He didn't say it but sounded like we have a bit too much fun and don't work hard enough. Morris early comments about the young players pushing to lift standards supports that.
There isn't actually any such thing as a 'Football Director' in our constitution. Roo is just an ordinary appointed director like everyone else. He is the go to director on matters football though as he chairs the List Management and Football Strategy committees and apart from CEO is the only board member to sit on those football focussed committees. Jamo was on football strategy, but resigned 2023.
Agree on the "if they are that good just make them the coach" thing, but likely the person we get won't be.
Better than Nicks?
Maybe, but if we were going to market for a new coach the options would be greater.
That said, there is no shame in bringing in more talent, other clubs manage to get former senior coaches in as assistants, for whatever reason we can't.
Likely because coming to Adelaide to work under a senior coach who isn't a big name or having great success doesn't add much to the resume, removes them from the Melbourne footy scene, where assistant coaches can move around with zero interruption to their lives, allowing them to round out their resume with stints at various clubs in different positions.
We attract assistants who are either eager for the promotion (then get cherry picked by other clubs they'd rather be at) or guys who have no real ambition, but want to or are willing to settle back home.
I don't think it's a bad strategy to bring in a respected "Director of Coaching", with AFL connections outside of our own, someone who ambitious young assistants would want to work under, to essentially be an experienced assistant with a fancy title, if that's what it takes to get them over the line.
Better than Nicks?
Maybe, but if we were going to market for a new coach the options would be greater.
That said, there is no shame in bringing in more talent, other clubs manage to get former senior coaches in as assistants, for whatever reason we can't.
Likely because coming to Adelaide to work under a senior coach who isn't a big name or having great success doesn't add much to the resume, removes them from the Melbourne footy scene, where assistant coaches can move around with zero interruption to their lives, allowing them to round out their resume with stints at various clubs in different positions.
We attract assistants who are either eager for the promotion (then get cherry picked by other clubs they'd rather be at) or guys who have no real ambition, but want to or are willing to settle back home.
I don't think it's a bad strategy to bring in a respected "Director of Coaching", with AFL connections outside of our own, someone who ambitious young assistants would want to work under, to essentially be an experienced assistant with a fancy title, if that's what it takes to get them over the line.
I started listening about half way through him saying that so I missed the context, I had wrongly assumed they were saying we were too serious, that's why someone like Rachele was left high and dry.
I was surprised to hear we needed to lift standards, despite our current position I had hoped we were at least putting our best foot forward. Hearing that the younger players want to drive this further is an indictment on Nicks if you ask me.
I had initially thought, after not hearing the context of why Morris was talking about the Crows that I had missed some big breaking news, alas, no this isnt the case.
IMO you kind of have to wait for the penny to drop for some guys. If I had the talent of some of these kids (and been told how good I was for most of my life) I probably wouldn't have applied myself as well as they are at that age. Would've taken until early 20s to knuckle down unless a peer had helped me to that realisation.
Ultimately no one knows who is responsible for the young players perhaps not preparing the best. I have this sinking feeling that the reason is our older players (Tex/ Smith/ Laird/ Crouch). Tex obviously reinvented himself by getting extra fit in the last few years but why did he have to get himself fitter? the others have never really been known for the athletic prowess.
It is still a great sign these players want to push for elite standards IMO
I think Tex and Crouch have probably prepared themselves better than most in the last 18 months or so. I mean Crouch was staring down the barrel toward the end of last year.
Laird is coasting IMO, he's done and Smith.... well you'd hope he's done.
I don't think the club IS doing anything, it's just speculation. In the EPL for example, the D of F is a common role as link between the board and manager / head coach. I don't know that any AFL club has a position titled D of F, it's Head of Football or similar.
I think a D of F, if a club decided to create / style such a role, would be in place of the H of F (Kelly), not above it.
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I listened to the segment and personally thought the most interesting/telling part was Morris saying (a paraphrase, not a quote) that "some staff asked for more professionalism from senior leading players."
Don't mind that
Well, the club calls him that...
Official AFL Website of the Adelaide Crows Football Club
The official AFL website of the Adelaide Crows Football Club
and other clubs have them too.
I don't think it has to be in the constitution, just however the board decides to name / allocate roles.
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But it was our lack of experience which is to blame for our year
Lack of quality experience.
We won't, but I'd be pushing Laird out for whatever we can get.
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There was someone on here at one stage saying that there was a bit of a rift between Nicks and senior players, and I think thats lead by Smith being on the outer and Laird slowly getting midfield minutes taken away from him.
I'll respect Nicks a lot more if he plays both Smith and Laird in the SANFL next year, or better yet, we trade Laird out.
Indeed if that's the cause of it, then I have a little respect for Nicks out of it. Actually, I do have a fair bit of it for him..... he just can't coach.
It took Nicks half a season to finally relies Smith was physically cooked, the same will happen to Laird next year after the season is done and he is sacked end of the season.
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