Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 13 - Saints v Suns Sat June 8th 7:30pm AEST (Marvel)

[Roosurgence]

That #31 in yellow looked good for the Saints tonight.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

can anyone else remember a worse single day in this sport's history?

and as I type, fox footy cross to Browny and his 'is it an ad or is it embedded content?' Sportsbet segment

seriously...AFL executive are paid 1.3 million annually on average....

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Imagine being a saints supporter

They've been through enough over the years without being forced to put their hopes and dreams into Ross Lyon.

They deserve better than this.

 

[rumply]

If it was to do with holding the ball, than that would be relevant, however it's not.

The discussion is about the umpire putting the whistle away, also known as not calling free kicks, so yes, it is entirely relevant.

 

[Romeoh1]

I just could not watch that for more than a few minutes at a time. I left the room to go cook dinner for half an hour and didn't feel like I missed anything and didn't feel the least bit drawn back to it.

Sure - we’d all like to see high scoring, free-flowing footy, but every team can’t play that way and I don’t mind the differences. Tight contest, close all night and went down to the wire.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Just saw another replay, and there's no possible way that call can be given the green light. If anything it should have been a kick the other way.

That it happened 70 metres off the ball, in front of goal and with 2 minutes to go just top off what a shocking call it was.

Plugged must accept his team was gifted

 

[Roosurgence]

Plugged must accept his team was gifted

Gifted was an understatement.

I was waiting for the umpire to double down after making the blunder and call a 50 at Andrew for gobbing off.

 

[rumply]

Sure - we’d all like to see high scoring, free-flowing footy, but every team can’t play that way and I don’t mind the differences. Tight contest, close all night and went down to the wire.

Spoken like someone who didn't watch the full match! It was horrible for a fair chunk, Rossy football at it's finest.

 

[Fizza]

Problem is they would say they are ‘technically there’ so decisions would not change. Of. Course ignoring the fact 100 of similar actions are ignored throughout the rest of the game. Why can’t umpires just put the whistle away unless there is something 100% obvious to pay

Umpires are just failed players who see this as their shot to influence a sporting contest!

We have seen what that looks like with umps instructed to not pay holding the ball & the game is significantly better now they are paying it again.
As to what goes on in your average umpires head, I doubt it is any more messed up than the rest of us...

. Game is significantly better for that, holding the ball rule. The game is unequivocally worse for umpires making decisions that: aren't there, or conversely not making decisions when they are blatantly obvious.

If it was to do with holding the ball, than that would be relevant, however it's not.

The discussion is about the umpire putting the whistle away, also known as not calling free kicks, so yes, it is entirely relevant.

Ok, I'll take that and run with, so if the umpire had done this tonight, "put the whistle away" the game result would not be talked about in terms of an umpire decision influencing the result.

Blueboys11 starts it that way, rumply you steer the conversation to holding the ball. Again, an opinion is fine, if you believe it was a free that's cool, we can disagree. Decisions such as this need to be called out, strongly. My opinion only.

 

[Coops93]

Arm over the shoulder and the other making contact to the neck says otherwise.

By that logic Charlie Curnow shouldn’t get another free for the rest of his playing days

From that image his right forearm/hand isn't actually making contact and his left arm is below the shoulder.

But it's a still so doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[Mat Mann]

I wonder if anyone on this board was actually alive when you last won a premiership….

Well done. Must have taken some time to come up with that pearler. Will take a while for Joffa to recover from that burn I think

Don’t worry though. The AFL will just give you a few more 1st round picks to help you make your 1st finals series,

 

[Roosurgence]

From that image his right forearm/hand isn't actually making contact and his left arm is below the shoulder.

But it's a still so doesn't tell the whole story.

Wardlaw should learn to flick his head back Jaimie Cripps style.

 

[Atomboy]

Why would any free agent want to go to St Kilda

Why would any free agent go to a second tier club ?.

It’s set up to reward the successful ones, not the weaker ones.

More perverse than the Father-Son system for mine.

 

[Atomboy]

Wardlaw should learn to flick his head back Jaimie Cripps style.

Or the old “I’ve been shot by a sniper in the stands” Jack Kennedy Darling style.

Dude has been shot more times than my Fortnite avatar.

 

[Fitzey]

Wardlaw should learn to flick his head back Jaimie Cripps style.

Congrats on the win it must be like Christmas but in reality no one cares about north, this thread is about the Saints and Suns shootout.

 

[Roosurgence]

Why would any free agent go to a second tier club ?.

It’s set up to reward the successful ones, not the weaker ones.

More perverse than the Father-Son system for mine.

Agree.

Free Agency has just made the comp more lopsided than its ever been.

The only winners are the big clubs.

 

[PerthBoy86]

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This was the tackle seconds prior to the Yeo holding the ball.

Last time I looked hand over the shoulder and contact to the head is a high free.

Let’s not be sensible though and let’s rage on that the second umpiring mistake is what cost the Eagles the game.

He totally tried slithering down like the snake he is to draw the free high. Not a personal insult, cos I mean to be fair its so widespread, but it's also on the umps to not keep rewarding it.

 

[Atomboy]

They've been through enough over the years without being forced to put their hopes and dreams into Ross Lyon.

They deserve better than this.

No we don’t

 

[Leather Poisoning]

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This was the tackle seconds prior to the Yeo holding the ball.

Last time I looked hand over the shoulder and contact to the head is a high free.

Let’s not be sensible though and let’s rage on that the second umpiring mistake is what cost the Eagles the game.

This definitely seems like the right thread for this pic to be appearing in

 

[Chuckie357]

They've been through enough over the years without being forced to put their hopes and dreams into Ross Lyon.

They deserve better than this.

Please run for prime minister, I’ll vote for you

 

[Roosurgence]

?!?!

Want some vinegar with your salt?

But like rewarding Darling for being a girls blouse

Was that free kick his only touch?

 

[Roosurgence]

This definitely seems like the right thread for this pic to be appearing in

Just responding to some Tarps whinger that claims today was all Vic Bias and some big conspiracy.

 

[MickG88]

I wonder if anyone on this board was actually alive when you last won a premiership….

I wonder if anybody was alive when you won yours?

 

[Astro_]

Knee to the jaw would hurt

Was holding his head tho

 

[rumply]

. Game is significantly better for that, holding the ball rule. The game is unequivocally worse for umpires making decisions that: aren't there, or conversely not making decisions when they are blatantly obvious.


Ok, I'll take that and run with, so if the umpire had done this tonight, "put the whistle away" the game result would not be talked about in terms of an umpire decision influencing the result.

Blueboys11 starts it that way, rumply you steer the conversation to holding the ball. Again, an opinion is fine, if you believe it was a free that's cool, we can disagree. Decisions such as this need to be called out, strongly. My opinion only.

Hmm, I've spent more time than I should responding to this so chatgtp says -

I respect differing opinions on whether it was a free or not. It's important to have these discussions and call out decisions we believe are incorrect, as it pushes for better officiating standards. In the end, we all want to see a fair and enjoyable game.