Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 17 - Cats v Hawks Sat July 6th 4:35pm AEST (GMHBA)

[catstorm]

You cannot hit a player high no matter what. If your elbow or hand or anything of such nature cops a player high, it’s a free kick. He elbowed him in the back of the head and left him gushing blood..

That is just inaccurate, how many times has a player copped a knee to the back of the head in a marking contest.

Kolo was running forward with eyes on the ball and went up for a mark, Lewis was running backwards with the flight.

It is a reasonable football act, Kolo is allowed to contest the mark.

I’m sure you’ll disagree and your welcome to do so, but the simple fact is this is not based on opinions, you’re just wrong.

It’s nothing more than an unfortunate accident of a contact sport.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

That is just inaccurate, how many times has a player copped a knee to the back of the head in a marking contest.

Kolo was running forward with eyes on the ball and went up for a mark, Lewis was running backwards with the flight.

It is a reasonable football act, Kolo is allowed to contest the mark.

I’m sure you’ll disagree and your welcome to do so, but the simple fact is this is not based on opinions, you’re just wrong.

It’s nothing more than an unfortunate accident of a contact sport.

A knee is different to a hand or elbow and it’s always been this way. Don’t create false narratives.

 

[catstorm]

A knee is different to a hand or elbow and it’s always been this way. Don’t create false narratives.

Your entire argument is a false narrative, there has always been situations were high contact is found to be reasonable.

The AFL itself releases a list of examples of cases for each offense. Within that list are examples of exceptions, which is usually contesting the ball. Kolo was contesting the ball.



Cases are judged on their own merits not blanket rules. Contact to the head is permitted under reasonable circumstances.

As a clear example here:


With the AFLs response:

"The ball is loose. Vlastuin and Dangerfield approach the ball from opposing directions,"

"Dangerfield punches the ball and in the process makes high contact to Vlastuin.

"It was the view of the MRO that Dangerfield's actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances. No further action was taken."


Kolo did nothing wrong, broke no rules and will face no punishment.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Your entire argument is a false narrative, there has always been situations were high contact is found to be reasonable.

The AFL itself releases a list of examples of cases for each offense. Within that list are examples of exceptions, which is usually contesting the ball. Kolo was contesting the ball.

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Cases are judged on their own merits not blanket rules. Contact to the head is permitted under reasonable circumstances.

As a clear example here:


With the AFLs response:

"The ball is loose. Vlastuin and Dangerfield approach the ball from opposing directions,"

"Dangerfield punches the ball and in the process makes high contact to Vlastuin.

"It was the view of the MRO that Dangerfield's actions were not unreasonable in the circumstances. No further action was taken."


Kolo did nothing wrong, broke no rules and will face no punishment.

I’ll correct myself, marking contests.

 

[fpm84]

Kudos to the four other people who joined me in voting for ‘Cats by a lot’

 

[CatToTheFuture]

A knee is different to a hand or elbow and it’s always been this way. Don’t create false narratives.

Pretty sure they only call it on spoils but Kolo was clearly getting to mark the ball.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Pretty sure they only call it on spoils but Kolo was clearly getting to mark the ball.

Marking or spoiling, if you go for a mark and accidentally coat hanger them into a coma you will get into shit. Protecting the head.

 

[Chief Hopper]

Kudos to the four other people who joined me in voting for ‘Cats by a lot’

I know Hawks have gotten better, but how did they get so many votes of winning this against Geelong?
They're barely a mid table team.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Marking or spoiling, if you go for a mark and accidentally coat hanger them into a coma you will get into shit. Protecting the head.

I could be wrong but spoils regularly called so. Not sure I've seen marking attempts called that way

 

[smasha]

Two times the Cats have played on while an oppo player lies concussed on the ground.
#stayclassy

#SteveHockingsrulechangingCatsSENboysclub

 

[HairyO]

Two times the Cats have played on while an oppo player lies concussed on the ground.
#stayclassy

#SteveHockingsrulechangingCatsSENboysclub

But it helps them score when the other team is down a player.

Goal when Day was down, goal when Lewis was down.

Umpires no issue there either. But Cameron got a tiny push in the back and it got pinged.

We were the game the AFL decided to even up for For and Against a little.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I could be wrong but spoils regularly called so. Not sure I've seen marking attempts called that way

It’s just harder to hit someone in that way when marking. But it would be a poor thing if it wasn’t the case, it’d be dangerous.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

It’s just harder to hit someone in that way when marking. But it would be a poor thing if it wasn’t the case, it’d be dangerous.

Yeah sure, but I'm just saying that's not how I ever remember it being called

 

[STPer18]

The free against Stengle for a 'block' when he almost marked the ball is in my top 5 worst calls for the year.

#freekickhawthorn

 

[Bunnings]

Two times the Cats have played on while an oppo player lies concussed on the ground.
#stayclassy

#SteveHockingsrulechangingCatsSENboysclub

What are they supposed to do, play was continuous, just stop ? Very strange comment

 

[Drunkcat]

Took Scott to play guy's playing good footy in the VFL, and drop out of form players, to long needed to play some youth.

 

[triple treat]

Hawks tried hard but the Geelong youth was too much for them - De Koning was awesome. Bit of a much needed reality check and now Hawthorn supporters can start to look to the draft.

Hahaha, thats as good as your teams gonna play and as bad as the Hawks will. The fact that this has given Scats supporters belief that they can content puts a big smile on my face.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Watson needs to focus on his game rather than his goal celebrations.
He’s too me me me.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Hahaha, thats as good as your teams gonna play and as bad as the Hawks will. The fact that this has given Scats supporters belief that they can content puts a big smile on my face.

The fact that you got absolutely flogged puts a massive smile on mine
You’re lucky we didn’t kick straight or it would have been 100.

 

[triple treat]

The fact that you got absolutely flogged puts a massive smile on mine
You’re lucky we didn’t kick straight or it would have been 100.

Lap it up while you can

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Two times the Cats have played on while an oppo player lies concussed on the ground.
#stayclassy

#SteveHockingsrulechangingCatsSENboysclub

Probably one of the stupidest things I’ve read on here.
Wtf are the players supposed to do? Just stop??

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Hahaha, thats as good as your teams gonna play and as bad as the Hawks will. The fact that this has given Scats supporters belief that they can content puts a big smile on my face.

Your pressure rating was through the roof early when we were pantsing you, as pointed out by the commentators. You simply got overwhelmed by a much better team. You guys are finding it a hard pill to swallow

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

But it helps them score when the other team is down a player.

Goal when Day was down, goal when Lewis was down.

Umpires no issue there either. But Cameron got a tiny push in the back and it got pinged.

We were the game the AFL decided to even up for For and Against a little.

Jesus.
You can talk. Your team won a flag from exploiting the rules. So much so that they changed the rule the following year.

 

[STPer18]

Hahaha, thats as good as your teams gonna play and as bad as the Hawks will. The fact that this has given Scats supporters belief that they can content puts a big smile on my face.

2nd time we've taken the Hawks to the cleaners this year with our younger players far outperforming yours. You'd think that'd instill some humility, but guess not. All the best for the draft!

 

[triple treat]

Your pressure rating was through the roof early when we were pantsing you, as pointed out by the commentators. You simply got overwhelmed by a much better team. You guys are finding it a hard pill to swallow

Mate there's no pill to swallow here. My expectations for such a young group were pretty low, however seeing how the young guys are gelling over the last 8 or so weeks has me excited but still realistic that there needs to be another preseason pumped into them. We'll rise as your falling and it will be glorious.