Coach Alastair Clarkson IV - HFC Racism Investigation Discussion

[SunnyBoner]

Confidential resolution to a public ongoing shitfest that has damaged, and nearly destroyed, reputations.

Awesome.

I'm still wondering why the Hawks were not sanctioned for undertaking such a shoddy investigation which was lead by Phil Egan who (apart from being indigenous) had no experience in such matters.

 

[Snowy off the Tram]

Andrews had the best media management team in the country

For lies, disinformation and dishonesty, sure they were right on top of the podium …

 

[Snowy off the Tram]

You can say whatever you like about the way Andrews handled the pandemic but the way he fronted up to the media every single day for months on end, obviously backed by his media team, was unmatched anywhere in the world.

Yep, and didn’t he love the power. For all that, Victoria had the worst infection rates, worst mortality rates - and, for a time, the jurisdiction with the unhappy boast of world’s longest lockdown. Still, this isn’t the Covid thread so I’ll leave it there … but to my mind nothing Andrews did in those two years was worthy of praise.

 

[gokangas]

This is great news for us, no further distraction for Clarko

Unless he (they) are pursuing personal compo. Might play out in the media again.

 

[Del191229]

For lies, disinformation and dishonesty, sure they were right on top of the podium …

For winning three consecutive elections too

 

[gokangas]

For winning three consecutive elections too

Can argue all we like about the ethics, morals etc - cannot argue the sensational results at the polling booth. His team delivered.

 

[Del191229]

Unless he (they) are pursuing personal compo. Might play out in the media again.

They won't. Clarko anyway

 

[gokangas]

Meanwhile back at the main story..............will be interesting to see how the Dawks word their apology/statement.

 

[Del191229]

Can argue all we like about the ethics, morals etc - cannot argue the sensational results at the polling booth. His team delivered.

Yep, and that's the point re the media management of this one

 

[Del191229]

Meanwhile back at the main story..............will be interesting to see how the Dawks word their apology/statement.

Indeed ... will be fascinating

 

[gokangas]

They won't. Clarko anyway

Why do you think that? Surely he has a claim. Maybe they would settle without a lawsuit. Do you think he is happy to walk away somewhat innocent of allegations since they haven't been tested in law?

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Meanwhile back at the main story..............will be interesting to see how the Dawks word their apology/statement.

True, but also tapping the side story within the main story, surely you would appreciate the deft timing by the Hawks media manager to put the garbage out just before the draft.

 

[Shack18]

Can argue all we like about the ethics, morals etc - cannot argue the sensational results at the polling booth. His team delivered.

Yep did well at the polls, but a crap power hungry premier ! Real indictment on the Vic liberal party

 

[koshari]

Yep did well at the polls, but a crap power hungry premier ! Real indictment on the Vic liberal party

Have they actually ran a candidate since big ted you could actually vote for.

I mean Mathew guy ffs! Twice wasnt it?

And that other bloke...

 

[giantroo]

Hawthorn settle Federal Court case with Indigenous players​

By Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall​

Updated November 20, 2024 — 6.18pmfirst published at 5.11pm


Hawthorn have settled their Federal Court case with Indigenous former players and their families, apologising for their experiences at the club, and reaching a financial settlement.

After two days of mediation this week, the club settled with Cyril Rioli, Shannyn Ah Sam-Rioli, Jermaine Miller-Lewis, Montanah-Rae Lewis, Carl Peterson and Leon Egan.

“Hawthorn is sorry and apologises that the former players, partners, and their families, in either pursuing a football career, or in supporting such a person, experienced ongoing hurt and distress in their time at the club,” the Hawks said in a joint statement with the former players, staff and family members.

“Hawthorn accepts that the allegations were made in good faith, and has heard, respects, and accepts that they represent their truths.

“Hawthorn remains committed to providing a safe environment for First Nations peoples and the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination.

“No person should suffer to pursue a career in football. By the former players, partners, and their families sharing their truths and raising their allegations, this has provided valuable learnings for the club and has greatly assisted the club in improving its processes, education and the care it provides to each First Nations player and their support persons.

“The fact the former players, partners and their families feel the way they do about their time at Hawthorn will continue to guide how the club interacts with and supports First Nations peoples moving forward.”

The matter ends the Federal Court action which had already cost the Hawks millions in legal fees. The players and their families were paid an undisclosed sum as part of this settlement, which exceeds the earlier Hawthorn offer of about $50,000 to each of the six parties, or about $300,000 in total.

Hawthorn were facing a further significant final hit in court costs – potentially millions – to continue to defend the matter.


The Federal Court action by the players and families was against Hawthorn Football Club and did not include the former coach Alastair Clarkson, ex-football manager and now Lions premiership coach Chris Fagan, former welfare manager Jason Burt, former football operations official Cam Matthews or the AFL. They’ve all consistently denied any wrongdoing.
The Hawks are not involved in any legal action with Clarkson, Fagan, Burt or Matthews but there is a question over who covers any outstanding legal costs for defending themselves in the matter.

Wednesday’s joint-statement outlined changes the club had made since the complaints from the players over their experiences at the club were first made.

These changes include establishing a First Nations Advisory Committee; developing and implementing a First Nations strategic plan with expertise and advice from First Nations advisors, with experience from the AFL, Victorian Equal Opportunity & Human Rights Commission and the Victorian Government.

They had also expanded the role of the Indigenous Player Development Manager, which now incorporates Head of Indigenous Affairs.

The new Kennedy Community Centre had been designed to ensure a culturally safe environment by re-locating the established Tyetdji Yulk cultural room currently at Bunjil Bagora, Waverley Park, to a prominent position at the new Dingley centre.
The club is also exploring building an outdoor community and ceremony space at Dingley.

 

[RightWingRoo]

Hallelujah it's finally over!

Clarko will probably never get the full closure he wants, but I reckon he'll just want to move on. 90% of the footy public don't believe he's racist.
Rusty Jackson and Phil Egan are both now heavily discredited figures, this is as good as it's going to get.

 

[giantroo]

WALKING TOGETHER​

JOINT STATEMENT OF THE HAWTHORN FOOTBALL CLUB AND CYRIL RIOLI, SHANNYN AH SAM-RIOLI, JERMAINE MILLER-LEWIS, MONTANAH-RAE LEWIS, CARL PETERSON AND LEON EGAN
1. The former players, partners, and their families commenced Federal Court proceedings alleging that Hawthorn Football Club engaged in acts of racial discrimination that had a significant impact on them.

2. Hawthorn accepts that the allegations were made in good faith, and has heard, respects, and accepts that they represent their truths. Hawthorn is sorry and apologises that the former players, partners, and their families, in either pursuing a football career, or in supporting such a person, experienced ongoing hurt and distress in their time at the Club.

3. Hawthorn remains committed to providing a safe environment for First Nations peoples and the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination.

4. No person should suffer to pursue a career in football. By the former players, partners, and their families sharing their truths and raising their allegations, this has provided valuable learnings for the Club and has greatly assisted the Club in improving its processes, education and the care it provides to each First Nations player and their support persons. The Club thanks the former players, partners, and their families for their courage in providing this guidance.

5. As a direct result of the allegations raised by the former players, partners, and their families, Hawthorn has:
a. established a First Nations Advisory Committee comprising the Chair and the CEO, Professor Barry Judd, Aunty Joy Murphy, Alan Thorpe and Chad Wingard

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b. developed and implemented a First Nations strategic plan with the expertise and advice from several First Nations advisors, with experience from the AFL, Victorian Equal Opportunity & Human Rights Commission and Victorian Government;

c. expanded the role of its Indigenous Player Development Manager, which now incorporates Head of Indigenous Affairs;

d. in constructing a future home at the Kennedy Community Centre, is seeking to ensure a culturally safe environment by:
i. the re-location of the established Tyetdji Yulk cultural room currently at Bunjil Bagora, Waverley Park, to a prominent position overlooking the entrance of the Harris Elite Training Facility;

ii. the inclusion of a yarning circle which overlooks the main training oval and nearby to the main entrance; and

iii. the potential inclusion of an outdoor community and ceremony
space embedded to the south of the main facility footprint.

6. Hawthorn continues to learn from the experiences of the former players, partners, and their families and all people involved with the Club. The fact the former players, partners and their families feel the way they do about their time at Hawthorn will continue to guide how the Club interacts with and supports First Nations peoples moving forward.

7. Hawthorn is committed to working with, and welcoming back, the former players, partners, and their families in the hope that they will feel able to return to the Hawthorn Football Club.

8. Hawthorn and the former players, partners, and their families have chosen to settle the Federal Court proceeding, without determination of any parties’ allegations, in the best interests of everyone. Hawthorn and the former players, partners, and their families wish to record their thanks to Ms Kate Eastman SC and Mr Mick Gooda, who mediated this proceeding, for the assistance they provided the parties in being able to reach a resolution of this litigation.

 

[Del191229]

I'm still wondering why the Hawks were not sanctioned for undertaking such a shoddy investigation which was lead by Phil Egan who (apart from being indigenous) had no experience in such matters.

Never quite did understand what happened to the AFL investigation into all that

 

[Devington]

good faith
their truths
without determination of any parties' allegations

 

[Woolly Mammoth]

WALKING TOGETHER​

JOINT STATEMENT OF THE HAWTHORN FOOTBALL CLUB AND CYRIL RIOLI, SHANNYN AH SAM-RIOLI, JERMAINE MILLER-LEWIS, MONTANAH-RAE LEWIS, CARL PETERSON AND LEON EGAN
1. The former players, partners, and their families commenced Federal Court proceedings alleging that Hawthorn Football Club engaged in acts of racial discrimination that had a significant impact on them.

2. Hawthorn accepts that the allegations were made in good faith, and has heard, respects, and accepts that they represent their truths. Hawthorn is sorry and apologises that the former players, partners, and their families, in either pursuing a football career, or in supporting such a person, experienced ongoing hurt and distress in their time at the Club.

3. Hawthorn remains committed to providing a safe environment for First Nations peoples and the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination.

4. No person should suffer to pursue a career in football. By the former players, partners, and their families sharing their truths and raising their allegations, this has provided valuable learnings for the Club and has greatly assisted the Club in improving its processes, education and the care it provides to each First Nations player and their support persons. The Club thanks the former players, partners, and their families for their courage in providing this guidance.

5. As a direct result of the allegations raised by the former players, partners, and their families, Hawthorn has:
a. established a First Nations Advisory Committee comprising the Chair and the CEO, Professor Barry Judd, Aunty Joy Murphy, Alan Thorpe and Chad Wingard;

b. developed and implemented a First Nations strategic plan with the expertise and advice from several First Nations advisors, with experience from the AFL, Victorian Equal Opportunity & Human Rights Commission and Victorian Government;

c. expanded the role of its Indigenous Player Development Manager, which now incorporates Head of Indigenous Affairs;

d. in constructing a future home at the Kennedy Community Centre, is seeking to ensure a culturally safe environment by:
i. the re-location of the established Tyetdji Yulk cultural room currently at Bunjil Bagora, Waverley Park, to a prominent position overlooking the entrance of the Harris Elite Training Facility;

ii. the inclusion of a yarning circle which overlooks the main training oval and nearby to the main entrance; and

iii. the potential inclusion of an outdoor community and ceremony
space embedded to the south of the main facility footprint.

6. Hawthorn continues to learn from the experiences of the former players, partners, and their families and all people involved with the Club. The fact the former players, partners and their families feel the way they do about their time at Hawthorn will continue to guide how the Club interacts with and supports First Nations peoples moving forward.

7. Hawthorn is committed to working with, and welcoming back, the former players, partners, and their families in the hope that they will feel able to return to the Hawthorn Football Club.

8. Hawthorn and the former players, partners, and their families have chosen to settle the Federal Court proceeding, without determination of any parties’ allegations, in the best interests of everyone. Hawthorn and the former players, partners, and their families wish to record their thanks to Ms Kate Eastman SC and Mr Mick Gooda, who mediated this proceeding, for the assistance they provided the parties in being able to reach a resolution of this litigation.

Surprised they didn't blame a "much older man" who has "been in the game for a long time"

 

[gokangas]

Timing is interesting. Front page headline story probably pushed back by all the draft news.

 

[danj]

Hawthorn have settled their Federal Court case with Indigenous former players and their families, apologising for their experiences at the club, and reaching a financial settlement.

After two days of mediation this week, the players and club agreed to a carefully worded statement acknowledging the matter was resolved.

Bingo, Fed Court were never going to let this proceed beyond this point unless Hawthorn wanted to be whacked with a very big stick. They’ve wasted millions of their members money, dragged a lot of prominent peoples name through the mud and brought the game into disrepute. We now await the AFLs response and appropriate sanctions……methinks we will be waiting a long time

 

[South of the Yarra]

Bingo, Fed Court were never going to let this proceed beyond this point unless Hawthorn wanted to be whacked with a very big stick. They’ve wasted millions of their members money, dragged a lot of prominent peoples name through the mud and brought the game into disrepute. We now await the AFLs response and appropriate sanctions……methinks we will be waiting a long time

Bingo what ????

 

[Del191229]

Timing is interesting. Front page headline story probably pushed back by all the draft news.

Yep, Sterling work by Dixon

 

[LB2Snake]

A pro? That’s one way of looking at it. If he’s from Andrews’ office, lying little scumbag is probably closer to the mark…

And the Hawks are now 100’s of million in the debt.