Autopsy Autopsy v hawks

[koshari]

Cmon thats not what he's saying, he's saying the process is more important and results will take care of themselves. Part of learning any process requires 100% effort and apart from a few squibs, low confidence, kids finding their feet and needing more strength most players are trying.

Exactly, we were never winning, we were paying 3 dollars for petes sake.

 

[Spud11]

Exactly, we were never winning, we were paying 3 dollars for petes sake.

We’re paying $3 because we’re crap. We’re not crap because we’re paying $3.
Up to us to change it.

 

[lockheed]

Neither should be playing.

Play our best 22 week in, week out. Set standards for performance regardless of age.

Doesn't matter if you are a first round draft pick or a recent traded recruit. No special treatment. Build a performance culture.

I wish

 

[DarkPhoenix]

First time I've picked up my North scrub cap at the hospital and then just thrown it back in my locker.
Couldn't deal with the comments for once.

 

[koshari]

We’re paying $3 because we’re crap. We’re not crap because we’re paying $3.
Up to us to change it.

Sure it is but we are far from there yet, playing a backline with corr lmac and biggie for example isnt going to bring home the bacon. Same with the fwd line with no key that can clunk a mark. Paul curtis prolly has the safest mits on a contest. At least you can see a bot of potential in the midfield but its at least 2 years from delivering consistently. Sadly these are the facts presently.

 

[Northball]

I don’t understand how a guy like Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

Age

23

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

can play AFL when he’s afraid of physical contact…

I’m a carpenter and bloody hell, if I was afraid of hammers and nails I wouldn’t have a job very long.

Stand him up at practice and every bloke on the list can take turns tackling him into the dirt until he stops flinching. It’s pathetic.

 

[Psi-Roos]

First time I've picked up my North scrub cap at the hospital and then just thrown it back in my locker.
Couldn't deal with the comments for once.

There are North branded scrub caps? This is reaching Waynes World levels of marketing haha.

 

[Eggs11]

Contemplating the number 1 draft pick in April. Just another year at North Melbourne.

 

[koshari]

There are North branded scrub caps? This is reaching Waynes World levels of marketing haha.

its the choice of the new generation.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

There are North branded scrub caps? This is reaching Waynes World levels of marketing haha.

They sell AFL Team Logo material, people buy it then make the scrub caps and sell them for ~20 bucks.

Afl Teams | Mum Made Scrub Hats | West End

Fabulous hats in all your favourite AFL team fabrics.

www.mummadescrubhats.com.au

North one is actually the most comfortable one I own.

 

[Flawed Genius]

I unfortunately subjected myself to the replay.

We don't switch the ball and seem to have zero transition plan. We go long down the line yet have no one who can take a contested mark. Compare to Hawthorn where using the switch was a clear instructions.

Our two most used midfielders this year are liabilities without the ball. Their lack of accountability is almost single handedly responsible for how weak we are at defending transition. There is always overlap run.

Newcombe and Nash humiliated Powell when competing for the ball. One centre clearance in the second quarter, TP's opponent got 5m on him. There was only ever 5m to gain, too.

We may as well play Xerri as a midfielder lmao. He's better in the clinches but his tap work is no good.

Shocking. Our strongest part of the list is now a weakness.

I watched the two goals we kicked and a little bit after before I gave up. One part that got me was Powell taking a mark at CHB and IMMEDIATELY looking into the corridor. When he couldnt find a free player he still tried to go into the corridor under his own steam but eventually had to go sideways to the boundary. Where I think Fisher marked it. He looked back inside but again it was well defended by the Hawks. Lmac was gesticulating at Fisher to switch the footy back across goal, but Fisher ignored him and dumped it long to a contest.

I think they know what they want to do. The opposition just knows how to defend it too easily at the moment

 

[Samsquanch]

There are North branded scrub caps? This is reaching Waynes World levels of marketing haha.

Excellent!

 

[Hazey1977]

Contemplating the number 1 draft pick in April. Just another year at North Melbourne.

Mid season or end of year.... Why not both?

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[hcd199]

We need to stick with Clarkson. More chopping and changing or another course correction will not help. Corner cutting to jag a finals appearance will also do nothing for us. I'd rather a patient build than copying what Essendon and Carlton tried to do in the last 15 years. What we're doing is far closer to Melbourne in the Roos era

Not looking much like Roos at Melbourne at the moment. The year before Roos arrived, the Demons conceded 100+ points in 19/22 games (lowest score conceded all year was 90); in his first year, when they still won 'only' 4 games, they conceded 100+ points in just 6/22 games. Which of those do we most resemble at the moment?

People don't necessarily need to see victories to believe in what the club is doing if the foundations of a better future are apparent. Six rounds into 2024, the midfield has regressed considerably and we look further than ever from assembling any sort of coherent gameplan - what minimal glimpses of one we do see just look like variations on the same flaky run-and-handball surge style that failed us so often in Scott's first four years and got Noble nowhere. I'm a long way from calling for Clarkson's head - we signed him up long-term for a reason, and he's officially still yet to helm a season's worth of games, so he deserves plenty more time yet - but criticism of his coaching so far this year is well and truly warranted IMO.

 

[Samsquanch]

Sure it is but we are far from there yet, playing a backline with corr lmac and biggie for example isnt going to bring home the bacon. Same with the fwd line with no key that can clunk a mark. Paul curtis prolly has the safest mits on a contest. At least you can see a bot of potential in the midfield but its at least 2 years from delivering consistently. Sadly these are the facts presently.

Spot on Kosh. We have inexperienced and #3 and #4 level defenders playing on the opposition's best forwards. The current North defenders could probably be decent players if they were playing on opponents who they were more evenly matched with. Same at the pointy end - Larkey at CHF and Sellers at FF in his second game, coming off a one-touch debut.

I really hope that Logie come's back fit and ready, and that the two Dawsons can make a decent combo along with Chom. Then the likes of Pink and Biggie are on the #5 or #6 forward instead of #2 or #3. It will make a serious difference. Who knows, maybe even the mid-season draft will turn up a gem for us. I'm sure that at least one of the selections will be a KPD type along with a crumbing forward selected with the other.

 

[Skarrz]

Who was our midfield coach last year? Seems like we have regressed massively

 

[Ichiro #51]

That goal ump was pretty rattled. It was surprising that he called for so many reviews though as a couple of them were dead-set obvious even from row H. He copped a bit of verbal from the North cheer squad too (mainly from one bloke with an especially loud voice) which seemed to get to him a bit as he became rigidly focused on the game (and Gunston looked up into the crowd a few times when the jibes were being flung).

These are the things I really miss not being able to get to the footy. It’s really weird how personal things can get in a huge stadium with thousands of people.

 

[Black Diamond]

Not looking much like Roos at Melbourne at the moment. The year before Roos arrived, the Demons conceded 100+ points in 19/22 games (lowest score conceded all year was 90); in his first year, when they still won 'only' 4 games, they conceded 100+ points in just 6/22 games. Which of those do we most resemble at the moment?

People don't necessarily need to see victories to believe in what the club is doing if the foundations of a better future are apparent. Six rounds into 2024, the midfield has regressed considerably and we look further than ever from assembling any sort of coherent gameplan - what minimal glimpses of one we do see just look like variations on the same flaky run-and-handball surge style that failed us so often in Scott's first four years and got Noble nowhere. I'm a long way from calling for Clarkson's head - we signed him up long-term for a reason, and he's officially still yet to helm a season's worth of games, so he deserves plenty more time yet - but criticism of his coaching so far this year is well and truly warranted IMO.

I mean the rebuild strategy. I don't think there is much utility in saying X club would lose by an average of Y, and average is worse. This is 10 years ago and the game evolves.

I disagree with the assessment of the midfield. We turn in some garbage periods, but the good periods are far better. For the first time in ages we have some quick players who use the ball well. Clarkson is having the guys pin-point passes in traffic, which the top sides do quite well. For us, it is going to break down for a while.

Also, his first season in charge was disrupted for reasons out of his control. That was a speed hump that in terms of development we are still living with.

 

[Gumble Frankieton]

Contemplating the number 1 draft pick in April. Just another year at North Melbourne.

Yep, I was thinking along these lines during my lunch break reading up on the MSD prospects.

 

[Themanbun]

Who was our midfield coach last year? Seems like we have regressed massively

Jordan Russell, now Patch I think.

The main difference is personnel.

We've gone from LDU, Phillips, Jy, Goldstein as our four highest CBA attendees. Wings being Scott and Tucker mostly.

This year it's LDU, Xerri, Powell, Wardlaw. Wings being Stephens and Tucker mostly.

We've gone from a mix of 2 x accountable, 1 x hit-to, to 1 x accountable, 2 x hit-to. Coupled with worse tap craft in our ruckman and we're on a hiding to nothing.

 

[Dirty_11]

Got to ask…was too young/ naive to know the inns and outs of the schimmmelbush sacking pre season after crows game in 93….but is the general mood / feeling amongst supporters similar to then….coz this has seriously has a lot of angry people at the moment….

We had Carey on our list. All was good.

 

[tazaa]

Jordan Russell, now Patch I think.

The main difference is personnel.

We've gone from LDU, Phillips, Jy, Goldstein as our four highest CBA attendees. Wings being Scott and Tucker mostly.

This year it's LDU, Xerri, Powell, Wardlaw. Wings being Stephens and Tucker mostly.

We've gone from a mix of 2 x accountable, 1 x hit-to, to 1 x accountable, 2 x hit-to. Coupled with worse tap craft in our ruckman and we're on a hiding to nothing.

Jordan Russell was the one thing that was actually working last year.
Patch is a dud. Another assistant coach who if sacked in October, not even Coburg would take him back.

 

[archereleven]

1. MSD pick
2. Pick 67
3. Cat B
4. Pick 74
5. Pick 33 + pick shuffles

Those were the players who tore us a new one yesterday.

Recruitment? Development? Chicken? Egg?

'Building from the midfield out'



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[Zondor]

1. MSD pick
2. Pick 67
3. Cat B
4. Pick 74
5. Pick 33 + pick shuffles

Those were the players who tore us a new one yesterday.

Recruitment? Development? Chicken? Egg?

Great Post. LOL at “It’s Development”. Clearly it’s both. We picked Edward ahead of Newcombe for example. :stern look

 

[The Dougster]

We had Carey on our list. All was good.

He became the best player in the league in 93 and the rest is history.