SANFL form is meaningless, must be burning up the training track though.
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SANFL form is meaningless, must be burning up the training track though.
What Friday and Saturday nights now?
But he's pretty much a proven failure at the level. Must be his last chance if he doesn't perform. If the next best KPF isn't up to it, go smaller. Lynch will replace him next week unless he's in there as a second ruck to reduce Thilly workload. Next week will be Lynch and Murphy in for Pedlar and Frampton.
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1) when I reply to a long post, it's just my way of keeping points separate and addressing them one by one.
I've nothing to say about 2} and 3} in your reply.
4) I haven't either, and it's not the point.
Frampton has been tried at AFL level for PA and for the Crows (from memory for the first 5 games, maybe 6). In those games he played worse and worse, after a promising pre-season. I haven't seen anything that he did in his last 3 AFL games that suggests he will make it. You make a good point about Frampton playing well in the SANFL, so he gets another shot. In spite of my criticism of him, I have said at least twice that I hope Frampton proves me wrong at AFL level. Maybe this time, he will do well. It would be good for the Crows, and him, if he did.
5) yes, McAdam is not playing for the team but for himself/MOTY; defensively lazy as well. It's a pity (like Fog, a bit) because he shows flashes of real talent.
EOFY, been celebrating not being too far behind since Wednesday night. I used to be known for pre-partying and failing to represent on the actual night. Now it seems each night is just a loosener upperer for the following night.
I'd hazard a guess you're mistaken if you think this is anything about Frampton and not entirely about teaching Fogarty that there's non-negotiables when you step out on the field and effort is one of the things at the top of the list.
There's a reason Frampton has gone ahead of Himmelberg and now Fogarty and it's not talent. Nicks is attempting to put those non-negotiables in place, it's like he told the midfield last year. If you're not willing to work defensively then pack your bags and walk out because he doesn't want you in the team if that's your attitude.
The fact we dropped both Fogarty and McAdam would indicate to me this is entirely about their lack of effort on the weekend and sending a message to them that while they may be best 22 on talent they're not on effort. They will never fulfil what their talent promises to deliver until they can learn to consistently put in that effort.
You spelt SELFISH wrong. His form has largely been poor apart from 1 game and now he's going in with the extra handicap of a busted finger. Best for him and club that he gets surgery and concentrates on 2022. But as a 20 touch midfielder, he doesn't want to watch a kid like Schoey crack 30 in the same role. He couldn't give a shit about developing the kids or he's totally delusional, which is actually odds on.
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Good response thanks.
I suggested in a previous post that Frampton's IN might be a lesson for Fogarty, but Fogarty has been dropped before for similar reasons and doesn't come back substantially better, well, not yet.
Coincidentally, I think you may have nailed why Nicks keeps selecting Mackay
--- effort, at training and on game day, even when it doesn't come off.
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It is but it’s just on the edge
Depends where the weather is coming from
Windy wet nights we get damp !
you’re ok after about row G
but I think you’ll be able to move further back into the stand tomorrow anyway
I think of Mackay as well they have a floor on how much experience they want, so he keeps getting games because of that.Good response thanks.
I suggested in a previous post that Frampton's IN might be a lesson for Fogarty, but Fogarty has been dropped before for similar reasons and doesn't come back substantially better, well, not yet.
Coincidentally, I think you may have nailed why Nicks keeps selecting Mackay
My guess with Frampton too is Fog has at times been given a role in taking up the loose man in defence, so that would usually require someone with a bit more height and aggression, hence why Frampton was picked instead of O'Connor or debuting Gollant or even Worrell (more of an experience thing with him). If we let Harris Andrews roam free he'll cut off a lot of entries, so will rely on someone like Frampton being active in getting to those contests to nullify Andrews influence.
Himmelberg had to do similar in the Power game against Aliir if I recall correctly and was OK, but wasn't consistent with his efforts and Aliir got free quite a few times.
Close but not quite right.
This is the game you are talking about.
Back when there were two on the bench. We lost Rocket Maynard early with a broken collarbone. Until then Maynard was the only crow left not to miss a game.Viska then joined him with a sprained ankle. Not fractured. Then Robran broke his leg. Viska hobbles back on playing in a pocket. Kicked his first goal in career. Sets up Modra with a great little handball in the square as well while being crunched.
Jars interviewed about the game at the end of year for in the 93 vhs says Mark Viskas performance in staying on was magnificent. Shows the courage and guts of that young fella. Kicked a goal to if I believe.
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So would have kicked 2 if Josh Modra wouldn't have called for the Joe the Goose?
Fog is a first round pick. Frampton was on rookie list. Of course more is expected of Fog
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Well no as he was getting crunched as he got a little handball out to mods who was running past in the square.
2 hr19 mark
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Yeah I agree.This would make sense if we didn't bring in a guy whose effort is even lower than Fogarty
He is basically the same as Fogarty defensively, has similar score involvements but can't kick goals himself, has worse disposal and fewer inside 50s and despite being in the ruck at times manages to offer fewer clearances and ground ball gets. And gets fewer shots on goal each match.
Everything about how he plays suggests he is no better at getting involved in the game than Fogarty, and when he does get involved is less effective
However he does mark it inside 50 0.3 times more per game and averages 1 extra contested mark so that must be it- oh and he sometimes takes marks in the SANFL too
Says more about how Fog has been playing vs wanting Frampton in the team.
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Oh well, there's nothing more certain than Lynch being rushed back into the side next week. Either at Frampton or TT's expense.
I still wouldn't be surprised if a 2nd ruck came into the discussion purely because they want to remove that from Thilthorpe's responsibility. My money is on Thilthorpe not undertaking second ruck duties. And whilst McAdam was in my top couple of favourites, he's a shell of the player that had me so excited last year. If we're going to get that from a forward only, we might as well get the same from a debutant, even if they're not getting meaningful minutes in their preferred role and only hit the turf for 50% of available time.
If Frampton rucks, I get it. If he doesn't, then we should have played Gollant or Worrell or Newchurch or the new kid or Davis or anyone else on our list. Except Strachan. Except Strachan.
Pedlar will be getting played as a forward. More likely that Lynch comes in for him. Plus there's Murphy who will also come back, so that might be for one of the KPF/2nd rucks. But a near certainty that both Lynch and Murphy are back next week. Regardless of SANFL output.
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Yeah, gotta load up for our flag assault.
Meanwhile poor old McPherson has been the sub for how many weeks now?
Practically all year
I don't get that they don't see McAsey or Worrall as forward options (gotta be better than McAdam this year to start with). They have played much of their footy as forwards. Frampton could be better as a defender if he could make the level (not too likely). I think the box needs to thought out of a bit.
I do not get Sloane playing and now risking a life long finger injury. All what? Getting another 8 games in?
Christ, he’s contracted for another 2 more years after this !
Christ, he’s contracted for another 2 more years after this !
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Watch our focus change once we mathematically can't make the finals.
Why the **** do we employ any non-players if everything is left up to the player’s decision? Could save us millions!
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They gave him the no 10 because like Chris McDermott he’s from Glenelg and a hard nut.
Chris’s nickname is Bone - as in hard as.
Maybe something similar rather than Ped-related
My favourite nickname was always Mark Viska, known for flattening people - Death
As a Glenelg supporter who was at the 85 and 86 GFs, you know how much I am loving this.
Having said that, Grave Danger (David Grainger) is just about the perfect enforcers nickname. (I was also there at the G. Cornes game
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