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According to Browne, Cloke and Buckley reportedly exchanged "fiery, heated words" at a team meeting yesterday.
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What were the details?
Teams finalized tomorrow, yeah?
I think Clokes presence puts everyone back in their shell.Cloke's game on Sunday wasn't much different to what he did the first few weeks. If that is the basis for dropping him again then fair play. He should've been breathing fire against Port but he wasn't.
On the plus side it means Jesse White can play well again, for some reason Cloke's presence puts him back in his shell.
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According to Browne, Cloke and Buckley reportedly exchanged "fiery, heated words" at a team meeting yesterday.
At a meeting???? Same as Harry O/L. I am a fan but Buckley should've been/needs to be more professional. Yes it is all going to shit for him but he can not get sucked into a tit for tat and one of the 300 useless meetings they probably have per week.
Maybe Cloke does not need to lose his Cool
At a meeting???? Same as Harry O/L. I am a fan but Buckley should've been/needs to be more professional. Yes it is all going to shit for him but he can not get sucked into a tit for tat and one of the 300 useless meetings they probably have per week.
I wouldn't read too much into it until a more reliable source pokes their head up.
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True a heated word can mean a raised voice vs a cross word. Who the hell cares? I'd probably raise my voice myself if I was sitting through my 30th meeting of the week.
Probably the wrong thread, but serious question: what would a Hawthorn be willing to offer for Cloke?
Jon Ralph said on the Fox Footy pre-game that Hawthorn, along with the frequently mentioned usual suspects (Fremantle, Gold Coast, Richmond) are not interested. "I could not find a suitor for him" was his summation.
McGuire, for what it's worth, repeated the company line: 18 months to go on his contract, required player, he's just in the 2s to find his form...
Jon Ralph said on the Fox Footy pre-game that Hawthorn, along with the frequently mentioned usual suspects (Fremantle, Gold Coast, Richmond) are not interested. "I could not find a suitor for him" was his summation.
McGuire, for what it's worth, repeated the company line: 18 months to go on his contract, required player, he's just in the 2s to find his form...
Not to state an obvious question, but do you really think the coach and coaching group don't go to players, let's use Cloke as an example and say " we want you to do this and that... " "Travis, we know how good you are, you can go out again and do it again..."
Just makes no sense that there is no discussion and motivation, in many forms.
That said, if you are talking to say a "plank of wood" it's sometimes hard to get through.
If the said player is disinterested for whatever reason, how much can a bear bare?
If said player has slowed down because Father Time has paid a visit what can the coach do?
With Travis, he's playing for his career, if that is not motivation, then sorry, either he's slowed, football dumb or having a sulk. I suspect the game is moving away from him and his best hope is a fresh start. I also am guessing he's not really football smart. It's now up to him and he can rip a VFL game or two in shreds if he's any good these days.
Players are at the Club day on day, hour on hour, they are surrounded by support staff and all sorts of people and I'm sure there is motivation.... But ultimately Travis has to do it.
What he can't run to the ball, get the ball, use it well?
And I thought Travis would have a big year, I got it badly wrong, but I will be cheering if he returns to form.
But in this one, it's on Travis not Nathan.
Yes next year will be painful watching Cloke kick a bag for the Hawks and probably win another flag. All of this just to prove a point, nice one Bucks. Jesus Christ.Cloke is done...I didn't believe it until now, but dropped after one game?... He won't be at the club next year
What's the point? You can't play shit for months on end and keep expecting to get a game?Yes next year will be painful watching Cloke kick a bag for the Hawks and probably win another flag. All of this just to prove a point, nice one Bucks. Jesus Christ.
Yes next year will be painful watching Cloke kick a bag for the Hawks and probably win another flag. All of this just to prove a point, nice one Bucks. Jesus Christ.
What is the rumour that Reid might not play? There's also a rumour about Howe. Do we have anyone left?