Preview Changes vs Brisbane

[conVINCEd]

Didn't I see that Charlie rolled his ankle in the match yesterday...he was definitely hobbling badly at one point.

Charlie loves to limp.

Especially when he misses a set shot, hams it up big time then.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

Who is Stewart?

Zac Taylor aka Stewie to his close friends

 

[Burtonsgottago]

The problem with Cook is that he doesn't get the ball

The problem with Ned is that he does

At first I laughed… then I cried

 

[Burtonsgottago]

I think he would make a bloody good runner to take drinks to the players...he could be elite at that

He’d fumble the bottles, trip over, and then hand them to an opposition player instead.

 

[dogs105]

A journey through 2 young players' first 17 games:

Player A:
Game 1 4K 4H 0.1 G
Game 2 2K 6H 0.1 G
Game 3 5K 6H 1.0 G
Game 4 6K 7H 2.0 G
Game 5 5K 8H 2.1 G
Game 6 3K 11H 1.0 G
Game 7 2K 5H
Game 8 3K 6H 1.0G
Game 9 4K 4H 2.0G
Game 10 1K 2H
Game 11 0K 6H
Game 12 2K 1H 1.0G
Game 13 5K 5H 2.2G
Game 14 14K 8H 1.3G
Game 15 11K 1HB 0.1G
Game 16 10K 5H 1.1G
Game 17 7K 3H 1.2 G

Total 84K 88HB (172 disposals) 15 Goals 12 Behinds

Player B:
Game 1 10K 7H
Game 2 4K 2H
Game 3 8K 11H
Game 4 12K 3H
Game 5 3K 2H 1.0 G
Game 6 6K 1H
Game 7 12K 5H
Game 8 7K 5H 0.1 G
Game 9 8K 6H 1.0 G
Game 10 4K 4H 1.0G
Game 11 4K 1H 0.1 G
Game 12 10K 6H 0.1 G
Game 13 6K 2H 0.1 G
Game 14 5K 4H 1.0 G
Game 15 1K 5H
Game 16 10K 5HB 3.1G
Game 17 4K 0HB 1.0G

Total 114K 69HB (183 disposals) 8 Goals 5 Behinds

 

[Cromulent]

Rough..

 

[walterhobbs]

Rough..

A lot of ACLs already this season

 

[Billy_01]

Gotta be something wrong with the Gabba turf

 

[BACCS]

Gotta be something wrong with the Gabba turf

Docherty also did his at the Gabba

 

[NSolis]

A journey through 2 young players' first 17 games:

Player A:
Game 1 4K 4H 0.1 G
Game 2 2K 6H 0.1 G
Game 3 5K 6H 1.0 G
Game 4 6K 7H 2.0 G
Game 5 5K 8H 2.1 G
Game 6 3K 11H 1.0 G
Game 7 2K 5H
Game 8 3K 6H 1.0G
Game 9 4K 4H 2.0G
Game 10 1K 2H
Game 11 0K 6H
Game 12 2K 1H 1.0G
Game 13 5K 5H 2.2G
Game 14 14K 8H 1.3G
Game 15 11K 1HB 0.1G
Game 16 10K 5H 1.1G
Game 17 7K 3H 1.2 G

Total 84K 88HB (172 disposals) 15 Goals 12 Behinds

Player B:
Game 1 10K 7H
Game 2 4K 2H
Game 3 8K 11H
Game 4 12K 3H
Game 5 3K 2H 1.0 G
Game 6 6K 1H
Game 7 12K 5H
Game 8 7K 5H 0.1 G
Game 9 8K 6H 1.0 G
Game 10 4K 4H 1.0G
Game 11 4K 1H 0.1 G
Game 12 10K 6H 0.1 G
Game 13 6K 2H 0.1 G
Game 14 5K 4H 1.0 G
Game 15 1K 5H
Game 16 10K 5HB 3.1G
Game 17 4K 0HB 1.0G

Total 114K 69HB (183 disposals) 8 Goals 5 Behinds

Who is Player A? Obviously B is Cook.

 

[dogs105]

Who is Player A? Obviously B is Cook.

Gary Ablett Jr


Obviously not trying to say Cook will be as good, or close, or anything. Just to say kids are often quiet in terms of possessions when they're learning and sometimes need time.

 

[NSolis]

Gary Ablett Jr


Obviously not trying to say Cook will be as good, or close, or anything. Just to say kids are often quiet in terms of possessions when they're learning and sometimes need time.

Sure, true of most players, your JHF types aside. Not that it's a fair comparison for Cook at all to be compared to Ablett, but Ablett was 18 when he played those first 17 games. This is Cook's 4th year in the AFL system, not his first.

Hopefully he develops just like that, though.

 

[Mostyn]

This is a dumb exaggeration. McHenry's not a good AFL player but part of the reason he isn't good is because he doesn't get the ball often enough. He also isn't clean enough and fumbles far too often, but it's not true that his average possession is a net negative to the team.

The one time he got 20+ disposals in the last two seasons he got 5 coaches votes and was one of the better players on the field.

Fair enough.

I mostly think McHenry does decent things once he has the ball - the issue is the fumbling and delays by hand that come with when he's trying to take possession.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

A journey through 2 young players' first 17 games:

Player A:
Game 1 4K 4H 0.1 G
Game 2 2K 6H 0.1 G
Game 3 5K 6H 1.0 G
Game 4 6K 7H 2.0 G
Game 5 5K 8H 2.1 G
Game 6 3K 11H 1.0 G
Game 7 2K 5H
Game 8 3K 6H 1.0G
Game 9 4K 4H 2.0G
Game 10 1K 2H
Game 11 0K 6H
Game 12 2K 1H 1.0G
Game 13 5K 5H 2.2G
Game 14 14K 8H 1.3G
Game 15 11K 1HB 0.1G
Game 16 10K 5H 1.1G
Game 17 7K 3H 1.2 G

Total 84K 88HB (172 disposals) 15 Goals 12 Behinds

Player B:
Game 1 10K 7H
Game 2 4K 2H
Game 3 8K 11H
Game 4 12K 3H
Game 5 3K 2H 1.0 G
Game 6 6K 1H
Game 7 12K 5H
Game 8 7K 5H 0.1 G
Game 9 8K 6H 1.0 G
Game 10 4K 4H 1.0G
Game 11 4K 1H 0.1 G
Game 12 10K 6H 0.1 G
Game 13 6K 2H 0.1 G
Game 14 5K 4H 1.0 G
Game 15 1K 5H
Game 16 10K 5HB 3.1G
Game 17 4K 0HB 1.0G

Total 114K 69HB (183 disposals) 8 Goals 5 Behinds

Gary Ablett Jr played his 17th game in round 5 of his second season.

Brayden Cook is in his fourth season.

Can you compare GAJs first 5 matches in his fourth season to Brayden’s output this year?

 

[dogs105]

Gary Ablett Jr played his 17th game in round 5 of his second season.

Brayden Cook is in his fourth season.

Can you compare GAJs first 5 matches in his fourth season to Brayden’s output this year?

If you like. Though you seem to have missed the point about it not being an Ablett comparison.

4th year, first 5 games:
4, 7, 9, 12 and 3 kicks
10, 2, 2 ,7 , 5 handballs

Possessions: 14, 9 11, 19, 8.

 

[dogs105]

If you like. Though you seemed to have missed the point about it not being an Ablett comparison.

4th year, first 5 games:
4, 7, 9, 12 and 3 kicks
10, 2, 2 ,7 , 5 handballs

Possessions: 14, 9 11, 19, 8.

Both kicked 5 goals in first 5 games of their 4th season too. Ablett had played over 50 by then though.

 

[Firewalker]

Gotta be something wrong with the Gabba turf

Docherty also did his at the Gabba

Hard to say if the turf had much to do with it, Coleman’s & Docherty’s were definitely caused by contact from an opponent and had nothing to do with the ground. I couldn’t remember Ashcroft’s but looking at it just now it’s a bit inconclusive as he was pushed slightly off balance by an opponent.

Kind’ve wish you could blame it on the turf as that would be another reason to demolish that tired old ground and build a new stadium elsewhere in Brisbane.

What I think the more interesting connection is though is that McCarthy, Gardiner, Doedee and Docherty had all already previously done ACL’s before so it probably falls more into line with the thinking that it’s more to do with genetic makeup and some people are just genetically more susceptible to it always occurring.

 

[NSolis]

If you like. Though you seem to have missed the point about it not being an Ablett comparison.

4th year, first 5 games:
4, 7, 9, 12 and 3 kicks
10, 2, 2 ,7 , 5 handballs

Possessions: 14, 9 11, 19, 8.

Alright you've sold me. Cook is about half as good as Ablett. I'll take that.

 

[dogs105]

Alright you've sold me. Cook is about half as good as Ablett. I'll take that.

Ummmm.


Anyway, give kids a chance!

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Brisbane's team still looks very very decent on paper. Won't be at all surprised if we drop this.

 

[FR0GGY]

Gary Ablett Jr


Obviously not trying to say Cook will be as good, or close, or anything. Just to say kids are often quiet in terms of possessions when they're learning and sometimes need time.

Did Ablett get dropped after a 16 possession game where he looked half decent?

 

[MrBarry]

Brisbane's team still looks very very decent on paper. Won't be at all surprised if we drop this.

Nah, we need to win this game and the players should be bang up for it. We beat Brisbane last year at home when they were flying.

 

[Gadzorks]

Nah, we need to win this game and the players should be bang up for it. We beat Brisbane last year at home when they were flying.

That was our roosting week.

We have no expectations, going to focus on the kids and not stress the results this year.

Hate excuses, but with ten of our top 22 out with long term injuries we are very gettable.

Hopefully we get through with no more injuries. Please.

 

[kirky]

Interesting that when teams get injuries during a game, the remaining general lift to counter. The problem becomes the following week as you can’t manufacture it. Away from home adds another layer, they don’t have a great record at Adelaide Oval (3-9).

In last Sunday’s game, Brisbane slowed the game down. Not sure they will be able to do it this week.

 

[Bob Neil]

I think he would make a bloody good runner to take drinks to the players...he could be elite at that

The next Matty Bode! Any chance we can fast-track his development on that pathway?