List Mgmt. Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion

[Keys]

Link to draft picks held by each club

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I want Darcy Jones with pick 20, I don’t think he’ll make it to 26.

 

[TerryFilk]

Why George at 20 ?

You’re not a fan of him?

I’m a big believer in Brayden George personally, even with the injury I’d take the risk on him long term

 

[eaglespremiers]

Just doing a little phantom draft assuming pick swaps ect… early days still so just a bit of fun happy to hear peoples opinions

1 Ashcroft Lions
2 Cadman GWS
3 Warlaw Norf
4 Sheezle Norf
5 Humphrey ESS
6 Buss Suns
7 Tsatas Hawks
8 Clarke Cats
9 Ginbey Eagles
10 Phillipou Blues
11 Hollands Dogs
12 Hewitt Eagles
13 Jefferson Dees
14 Konstanty Swans
15 Hayes Giants
16 Hotton Pies
17 Hustwaite Swans
18 Barnett Giants
19 Wheedle Norf
20 George Eagles


27 Jones/Keeler

33 Allen/Gilbey/Hagen/Munkara/C.Clarke

*Note Fletcher and Davey bids will be in there somewhere too.

**Tried to go best available but also looking at what some clubs may desire

I'd be amazed if Mackenzie isn't selected top 12, let alone not even in the top 20.
Would have no qualms us taking him at pick 2. Certainly would be a great get at pick 9.
Also really hope we don't prioritise WA talent so highly. We typically haven't in the past and there's good talent to be had at pick 9 that is not Ginbey (i.e. Mackenzie, Phillipou and Hollands).

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Just doing a little phantom draft assuming pick swaps ect… early days still so just a bit of fun happy to hear peoples opinions

1 Ashcroft Lions
2 Cadman GWS
3 Warlaw Norf
4 Sheezle Norf
5 Humphrey ESS
6 Buss Suns
7 Tsatas Hawks
8 Clarke Cats
9 Ginbey Eagles
10 Phillipou Blues
11 Hollands Dogs
12 Hewitt Eagles
13 Jefferson Dees
14 Konstanty Swans
15 Hayes Giants
16 Hotton Pies
17 Hustwaite Swans
18 Barnett Giants
19 Wheedle Norf
20 George Eagles


27 Jones/Keeler

33 Allen/Gilbey/Hagen/Munkara/C.Clarke

*Note Fletcher and Davey bids will be in there somewhere too.

**Tried to go best available but also looking at what some clubs may desire

Rather surprised you don’t rate McKenzie in the first round

Surprised you have Dees taking Jefferson when they took van Royen last year

I expect Blues to take Hotton
I expect Suns to take Hollands

 

[Farang83150]

Why George at 20 ?

Who's your pref there?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

You’re not a fan of him?

I’m a big believer in Brayden George personally, even with the injury I’d take the risk on him long term

Welcome to an interstate club

Your first season will be in rehab. I’m sure you will fit in well

 

[Monocle]

You’re not a fan of him?

I’m a big believer in Brayden George personally, even with the injury I’d take the risk on him long term

Two knees worry me, but I was more interested in the rational as to why him as opposed to say Keeler at 20, which to me makes a lot more sense, if I was the one picking and taking a risk.

 

[TerryFilk]

Welcome to an interstate club

You first season will be in rehab. I’m sure you will fit in well

I mean Chesser was injury prone and spent his entire debut season in rehab and extended, we have to stop doubting how good our player retention is

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Still keen on wardlaw

With North having lost JHF they will take Wardlaw, he won’t be there at our pick.

 

[CountryLad]

Why George at 20 ?

Think he slides
Pieman loves a slider
We need a good big bodied mid/fwd.

We also have the opportunity to give him time to rehab as we will have heaps of young talent pushing for spots in the League side but Simmo will only want to play a certain amount at a time.

He won’t want 4 or 5 from this years draft plus Culley, Chesser, Hough and Bazzo all in the league side at once.

 

[TerryFilk]

Two knees worry me, but I was more interested in the rational as to why him as opposed to say Keeler at 20, which to me makes a lot more sense, if I was the one picking and taking a risk.

Ehhh, Keeler is a weird prospect to me, there are moments when I watched him when I thought wow this kid is great and then he’d just completely fade out of games lol, I do agree there’s something to work with though, I’d still prefer George’s explosiveness however

I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Munkara too, I’m a big fan of his raw talent, was excellent in the Academy game vs the Pies

Cowan and J Ryan are 2 more that intrigue me with 20/26

 

[Farang83150]

Got a feeling Nth are just as in need of a fwd.
If they split with GWS and we use 2 they might not get wardlaw or Cadman

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Two knees worry me, but I was more interested in the rational as to why him as opposed to say Keeler at 20, which to me makes a lot more sense, if I was the one picking and taking a risk.

You and EastcoastEagle have been big on Keeler and I’m starting to come around. He is a high reward pick and at 20 this risk feels not that high

Probably pass on Keeler if we take Busslinger and prefer Burgiel. I rate him and happy to go at 20 or 26

 

[CountryLad]

Welcome to an interstate club

Your first season will be in rehab. I’m sure you will fit in well

Yeah get your point but he’s going to have to do rehab away from home anyway as he’s a country boy. It’s a debatable one and hey he’s maybe not even on the eagles radar but I’ve thrown him in there

 

[Monocle]

Ehhh, Keeler is a weird prospect to me, there are moments when I watched him when I thought wow this kid is great and then he’d just completely fade out of games lol, I do agree there’s something to work with though, I’d still prefer George’s explosiveness however

I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Munkara too, I’m a big fan of his raw talent, was excellent in the Academy game vs the Pies

Cowan and J Ryan are 2 more that intrigue me with 20/26

Fair enough.

I like J Ryan, Cowan's kicking worry's me.

Also I think Cody Burgiel is very under ratted, I would think that he would be in the mix at 20.

 

[CountryLad]

I'd be amazed if Mackenzie isn't selected top 12, let alone not even in the top 20.
Would have no qualms us taking him at pick 2. Certainly would be a great get at pick 9.
Also really hope we don't prioritise WA talent so highly. We typically haven't in the past and there's good talent to be had at pick 9 that is not Ginbey (i.e. Mackenzie, Phillipou and Hollands).

Mckenzie should be pick 10 Saints and everyone slides I’ve missed it I’ll edit it

 

[Monocle]

Ehhh, Keeler is a weird prospect to me, there are moments when I watched him when I thought wow this kid is great and then he’d just completely fade out of games

Very true, he is the ultimate tease should he ever get some consistency, he could be the very best of the entire cohort.

On production throughout the SA season he lags behind several others.

There are two tall SA kids that are worthy of consideration from the third round on that don't get much love from the draft watchers that I quite like.

Phoenix Foster - Norwood.
Will Verrall - South Adelaide.

 

[CountryLad]

Rather surprised you don’t rate McKenzie in the first round

Surprised you have Dees taking Jefferson when they took van Royen last year

I expect Blues to take Hotton
I expect Suns to take Hollands

Rate McKenzie, edited him. I think Suns take Buss he’s a good fit for them going into the future. Blues could take Hotton I’m finding it hard to put him that early in the draft but hey that’s just my opinion

 

[CountryLad]

Rather surprised you don’t rate McKenzie in the first round

Surprised you have Dees taking Jefferson when they took van Royen last year

I expect Blues to take Hotton
I expect Suns to take Hollands

Yeah maybe your right about Dees and Jefferson was thinking they needed a tall forward but had forgotten about Van Royen

 

[WCE_Phill]

Just doing a little phantom draft assuming pick swaps ect… early days still so just a bit of fun happy to hear peoples opinions

1 Ashcroft Lions
2 Cadman GWS
3 Warlaw Norf
4 Sheezle Norf
5 Humphrey ESS
6 Buss Suns
7 Tsatas Hawks
8 Clarke Cats
9 Ginbey Eagles
10 McKenzie Saints
11 Phillipou Blues
12 Hollands Dogs
13 Hewitt Eagles
14 Jefferson Dees
15 Konstanty Swans
16 Hayes Giants
17 Hotton Pies
18 Hustwaite Swans
19 Barnett Giants
20 Wheedle Norf
21 George Eagles


27 Jones/Keeler

33 Allen/Gilbey/Hagen/Munkara/C.Clarke

*Note Fletcher and Davey bids will be in there somewhere too.

**Tried to go best available but also looking at what some clubs may desire

Nice, can see why the club wants to split 2

Would love another teen pick tho

No need to take George at 20 given injuries

Swap his selection with DJ

Is there anyway we can get puck 13 to 16

Ending up with McKenzie, Ginbey, Hewett, DJ and George would be a dream but unlikely to happen

 

[CountryLad]

Rather surprised you don’t rate McKenzie in the first round

Surprised you have Dees taking Jefferson when they took van Royen last year

I expect Blues to take Hotton
I expect Suns to take Hollands

I rate hollands I’d take him at 9 if I was the Eagles but it’s a Phantom Draft and I think they are going local for what ever reason.
Where do you see Jefferson going then?
Who do the Dees take?

 

[maverick001]

Or maybe he

Speaking of Ruebe hahaha
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Maybe he got the P and S mixed around and he's modelling his game on Jamie Crips. As a mid/back though probs not.....

 

[maverick001]

For arguments sake we get picks 8 and 12, who is everyone's preference?

8. Phillipou, still think he could end up one of the best players in the draft. He's got the complete game for mine, Starr his career at half forward before becoming inside mid.

12. Hollands, love his two way running and 2nd and 3rd efforts. Combine that with his contested game and skill, lovely prospect.

Mine would be, in order of preference:
Pick 8: McKenzie, Humphrey, Phillipou
Pick 12: Ginbey, Hollands, Hewett

With Ginbey posting very good results at combine in sprint and endurance, plus his known height + frame, and the fact his rate of improvement is quite high, he increasingly seems a good prospect. The only concern for me is he doesn't get massive numbers

Assuming we can get decent value out of Rioli, I'm coming around to the 2 for 8 and 12 trade.

If we land McKenzie/Humphrey plus Ginbey then our stoppage game suddenly looks a lot better - we've got either skills and pace and accumulation (McK) or power and pace and fwd/mid versatility (Humphrey) together with the power and pace of Ginbey.

Sounds a bit like Humphrey won't be there at 8 (9) though, and Ginbey perhaps not at 12. I haven't watched any of his vision, but Humphrey sounds very Petracca-esque.

 

[maverick001]

I think my first preference would be to just trade our pick 2 with GWS on draft night

Doubt North trade out pick 1 without getting our pick 2 this trade period, no way are they losing 2 pick 1’s (JHF) in the one offseason without a couple of top 5 picks coming back. They don’t need to stock up on kids.

If North take Sheezel as was suggested earlier in the thread and GWS trade us pick 3 + 12 for Cadman, we could get Wardlaw + another great kid with 12 and I think that would be the way to go.

If we go ahead with the ultra mega super special trade, we need to get hold of a future 1st to compensate for whatever we might be (realistically) leaving on the table had we held off.

Yes this is the big carrot to holding pick 2. If North keep pick 1 and don't take Cadman, pick 2 is desirable to GWS. Although it seems North trade pick 1 to GWS anyhow, so point becomes moot. If only North had snuck home for another win late in season

 

[maverick001]

One bloke called Shadow Brain
Another with surname Vickery. Unfortunate