Macrae was soundly beaten by Carlton’s 19 year old mid in the vfl who torched our midfield with a lazy 40 odd touches. But hey, let’s select him for the seniors
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Yeah, I've seen enough football to know that you can't actually tell how good a player is unless they get sustained runs in the 1sts -- coming in for a game and then getting dropped is useless.
Who else hasn't been good enough:
Brett James
Podsiadly
Paul Seedsman
Matthew Carr
Nathan Lovett-Murray
John Ceglar....
None of them were good enough. Just NOT. GOOD. ENOUGH.
Hmmm, I think that's a dubious comparison.
Ginny had obvious talent but carried on like a d1ck at Collingwood, repeatedly falling short of the coaches' professional expectations and, I suspect, losing the trust of his team-mates. By comparison, Macrae has been a model citizen but just hasn't shown enough talent or impact across his four years with us.
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He had like, zero clearances at one point in the second half from memory. Around about the time I left the game.
Reef unlucky. Had a little bit of the ball when he came on and nowhere near the worst.
Thought Richards would be given more time considering his great first couple of games.
Bytel is lucky to be playing, I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's in our best 22.
I don't mind Long, strong body although pretty slow.
Happy Cox is back, we've missed the height and Richmond are his bunnies.
Just maybe, we are missing Mitchell more than we think...
Thought Richards would be given more time considering his great first couple of games.
Bytel is lucky to be playing, I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's in our best 22.
I don't mind Long, strong body although pretty slow.
Happy Cox is back, we've missed the height and Richmond are his bunnies.
Just maybe, we are missing Mitchell more than we think...
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That's fair enough. I accept your argument. I'm just frustrated.
Yeah, I reckon we're all feeling that way. We were all so buoyant five weeks ago and now the season is a train-wreck.
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yeah lets get 50+ games into every single player we bring in so we know for sure, sounds great
You know it’s not the same group that would complain.. There is one group who will complain with the scenario you outlined, there is the current group who complain with this weeks changes, and just like a Venn diagram, there is that middle group who complain about everything.
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yeah lets get 50+ games into every single player we bring in so we know for sure, sounds great
Yep. That's it.
Though the point is this: you need to give them blocks of 4-6 games where the coach says, "You're playing for a block, so don't worry about each week, worry about the entire block."
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You know it’s not the same group that would complain.. There is one group who will complain with the scenario you outlined, there is the current group who complain with this weeks changes, and just like a Venn diagram, there is that middle group who complain about everything.
Stop introducing complexity. This is Bigfooty. We only have two options. On and off. Black and white. Good and bad.
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We haven’t had the luxury of giving a block of games to Macrae and Reef. We’ve been playing poorly and losing and did not have the time, nor the inclination for risk, to see if they could ‘fire up’.
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That's why I said there would be whining no matter what & outlined the opposing whines ..You know it’s not the same group that would complain.. There is one group who will complain with the scenario you outlined, there is the current group who complain with this weeks changes, and just like a Venn diagram, there is that middle group who complain about everything.
Whoosh..
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I would.
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I would too.
Exactly the point. Pretty hard to show your worth as a forward, when we have a month of hardly getting it in there. Maybe get them up the ground, rather than sending them back.
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I'd rather see reef tried in the middle over long and Sullivan, and Richards on a wing over bytel. Both have shown AFL traits with limited opportunities, as opposed to the others.
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Maybe Reef isn’t fit enough to play midfield.
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I don't think he is.
Neither is de goey at the minute. Rotate them 50/50 forward/mid.
One handed half hearted attempts at tackling for the past 2 weeks probably did him no favours. Having said that he was far from the worst
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That's been the general consensus hasn't it? Reef needing to work on his tank.
I think with Dan, Shoota, Billy, Cox all back, we probably don't need another forward this week. See how this forward set up goes this week. And Jordy will probably spend more time forward than midfield. Hence why Long/Sullivan are needed.
Joey has been a bit off since returning from his injury, unfortunately.
I don't mind too much if they both get a run in the 2's this weekend. I want both Reef & Joe to stay at the club & hope another uninterrupted preseason sets them up for regular games next year
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