List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

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  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[Keys]

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It will be interesting to see who gets offered contracts. Only really Gaff and Trew on this list with definitively stamped papers.

We’ve turned over 50% of our list since the end of the 2021 season and 22 players who’ll be 22 or under at the end of this season

So we’re pretty stacked with young players so maybe this year with just 2 picks inside 40 (we’ve had 3 or 4 the last 3 drafts) we won’t cut quite so deep. Perhaps as few as 5/6 instead of the 8+ we have been retiring/delisting - 3 draft picks, 2 players brought in and maybe a rookie pick

In no particular order - Jones, Baker, Rotham, Witherden, Burgiel, Edwards and Edwards the most vulnerable to join Gaff and Trew as I think the rest have done enough to get a new contract

All that assumes nobody asks to be traded out or leaves as a FA

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

We’ve turned over 50% of our list since the end of the 2021 season and 22 players who’ll be 22 or under at the end of this season

So we’re pretty stacked with young players so maybe this year with just 2 picks inside 40 (we’ve had 3 or 4 the last 3 drafts) we won’t cut quite so deep. Perhaps as few as 5/6 instead of the 8+ we have been retiring/delisting - 3 draft picks, 2 players brought in and maybe a rookie pick

In no particular order - Jones, Baker, Rotham, Witherden, Burgiel, Edwards and Edwards the most vulnerable to join Gaff and Trew as I think the rest have done enough to get a new contract

All that assumes nobody asks to be traded out or leaves as a FA

Burgiel would be at the bottom of that list.

He has genuine defensive deficiencies (most draftees do) but has genuine upside ball in hand.

I find it hard to believe he won’t get a 1 year contract.


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[Breezly]

Higher education awaits Murdock as Eagles circle at draft

Waalitj Marawar (West Coast) have expressed interest in dual Simpson medallist Milan Murdock as the in-form East Fremantle midfielder shoots into mid-season rookie draft calculations.

thewest.com.au

Was best on ground for WA against SA

 

[Farang83150]

Higher education awaits Murdock as Eagles circle at draft

Waalitj Marawar (West Coast) have expressed interest in dual Simpson medallist Milan Murdock as the in-form East Fremantle midfielder shoots into mid-season rookie draft calculations.

thewest.com.au

Eagles apparently looking at Milan Murdock (East Freo) for the mid season draft.

24 yrs old this year?

 

[RookiePick]

Ledwards probably the most at risk on the main list. I think Hedwards survives by dint of being a tall bastard and looking paper thin for KPD depth but if we acquire another KPD through trade/FA he could still go.

Jones at risk, just hasn't quite grasped his opportunities the way he would have liked but may have value elsewhere.
Witherden certainly playing like a man not ready to let it all go the past few weeks. I reckon he survives as he is in the right age bracket and his dad can hook everyone up.

Baker likely to go too I would think.


What's the minimum we can take in the main draft? is it 2 or 3?

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Ledwards probably the most at risk on the main list. I think Hedwards survives by dint of being a tall bastard and looking paper thin for KPD depth but if we acquire another KPD through trade/FA he could still go.

Jones at risk, just hasn't quite grasped his opportunities the way he would have liked but may have value elsewhere.
Witherden certainly playing like a man not ready to let it all go the past few weeks. I reckon he survives as he is in the right age bracket and his dad can hook everyone up.

Baker likely to go too I would think.


What's the minimum we can take in the main draft? is it 2 or 3?

three

 

[stallon]

Anybody know much about Milan Murdock? mature age recruit, small quick midfielder, probably bolsters the beagles mostly. Would he gets a game for us?

 

[RookiePick]

He was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit.

 

[Keys]

Burgiel would be at the bottom of that list.

He has genuine defensive deficiencies (most draftees do) but has genuine upside ball in hand.

I find it hard to believe he won’t get a 1 year contract.


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I initially left him off the list but I’m worried about his inability to string games together and it seems his WAFL form hasn’t been great although he’s no orphan there

The challenge for Matthew Clarke is finding the right balance between keeping mature aged players in their mid twenties who aren’t quite best 22 but provide good depth versus younger players who haven’t quite come on but still show a capacity to improve

Guys like Rotham and Witherden who two months ago seemed like easy delists have put together a pretty solid month of footy. If they maintain that form, or better still build on it, then there’s a strong case to retain them

 

[darksquare]

Murdock is a good WAFL player. But so was Greg Clark. Really hard to know who can take the next step. What position would he play for us? As a midfielder, he's behind everyone in the side, plus Culley, Hall and Trew.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I initially left him off the list but I’m worried about his inability to string games together and it seems his WAFL form hasn’t been great although he’s no orphan there

The challenge for Matthew Clarke is finding the right balance between keeping mature aged players in their mid twenties who aren’t quite best 22 but provide good depth versus younger players who haven’t quite come on but still show a capacity to improve

Guys like Rotham and Witherden who two months ago seemed like easy delists have put together a pretty solid month of footy. If they maintain that form, or better still build on it, then there’s a strong case to retain them

His WAFL form has been fine bar one week, minus one game where he played wing for the first time. Most weeks he is amongst our best.

If it wasn’t for his appendicitis he would have debuted instead of Johnston.

The fact he’s done that with all the interruptions is more evidence to keep him.

 

[JackOutback]

He was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit.

Good WAFL player, better pilot.

 

[chaddy22]

Definite delists for me from main list
Gaff
Jones
Luke Edwards (maybe rookie) upgrade Culley.
Harry Edwards (maybe rookie) trade in Busslinger if possible.
Burgiel(not sure)

Looking safer
Rotham
Witherden

Safe
Duggan
Barnett
Jwilliams
Yeo ( no guarantee he doesn't go to another club)

 

[Monocle]

Murdock is a good WAFL player. But so was Greg Clark. Really hard to know who can take the next step. What position would he play for us? As a midfielder, he's behind everyone in the side, plus Culley, Hall and Trew.

I would query that comment as IMO he would be an substantial upgrade on L Edwards and has shown a heck of a lot more than Trew in the WAFL.

Agree with the comment “ hard to know who can take it to the next level”.

I wouldn’t mind if we picked him, as he is was worth a punt.
Certainly a hard working midfielder who racks up the possessions and he is also tackling machine.

Can he make the step up in grade, that’s what guys get paid to assess.

I think this MSD pool is only puddle deep.
So whoever we pick are going to be long odds to make it.

 

[RookiePick]

I would query that comment as IMO he would be an substantial upgrade on L Edwards and has shown a heck of a lot more than Trew in the WAFL.

Agree with the comment “ hard to know who can take it to the next level”.

I wouldn’t mind if we picked him, as he is was worth a punt.
Certainly a hard working midfielder who racks up the possessions and he is also tackling machine.

Can he make the step up in grade, that’s what guys get paid to assess.

I think this MSD pool is only puddle deep.
So whoever we pick are going to be long odds to make it.

I think we were stupendously lucky to get Culley and particularly Maric in the MSD. I think Essendon has snagged a pretty handy player there as well but not many/any others have made it? I think they are all puddle deep really, 18 teams drafting dredges the pond pretty clean of players with close to a modern AFL athletic profile.

 

[kane249]

Murdock is a good WAFL player. But so was Greg Clark. Really hard to know who can take the next step. What position would he play for us? As a midfielder, he's behind everyone in the side, plus Culley, Hall and Trew.

Feels like Connor West II

 

[RanaNaved]

Never seen his face until that article, but he's clearly the next Tom Atkins

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Tom Atkins

Age

29

Ht

180cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.3

5star

MG

123.5

2star

D

6.5

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.5

2star

M

0.8

1star

T

1.5

2star

MG

100.0

2star

D

11.6

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.8

5star

MG

130.0

3star

imo

 

[mattyc75]

I would query that comment as IMO he would be an substantial upgrade on L Edwards and has shown a heck of a lot more than Trew in the WAFL.

Agree with the comment “ hard to know who can take it to the next level”.

I wouldn’t mind if we picked him, as he is was worth a punt.
Certainly a hard working midfielder who racks up the possessions and he is also tackling machine.

Can he make the step up in grade, that’s what guys get paid to assess.

I think this MSD pool is only puddle deep.
So whoever we pick are going to be long odds to make it.

Apparently kobe ryan is going very well over in SA
Might be a better option, has improved a lot

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[archiemoses]

Definite delist / trade
Gaff (retire)
Ledwards
Rotham
JJ

Trew
Baker

List changes
Culley (upgraded)
Busslinger
Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

Pick 3

New #1
Ruscoe

Probably need another senior list change tbh

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Definite delist / trade
Gaff (retire)
Ledwards
Rotham
JJ

Trew
Baker

List changes
Culley (upgraded)
Busslinger
Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

Pick 3

New #1
Ruscoe

Probably need another senior list change tbh

Why are people in a rush to delist baker?

He’s a cat b rookie? Who will we replace him with? He’s not even taking up a senior or rookie list spot.

 

[stallon]

Definite delist / trade
Gaff (retire)
Ledwards
Rotham
JJ

Trew
Baker

List changes
Culley (upgraded)
Busslinger
Liam Baker
Pick 3

New #1
Ruscoe

Probably need another senior list change tbh

need 3 draft picks I think, so 3 list spots open for the draft. 2 more than youve allowed for

 

[stallon]

Why are people in a rush to delist baker?

He’s a cat b rookie? Who will we replace him with? He’s not even taking up a senior or rookie list spot.

Hes on the normal rookie list isnt he? Our Cat-Bs are Dewar and Livingstone according to the contracts thread

 

[Keys]

Why are people in a rush to delist baker?

He’s a cat b rookie? Who will we replace him with? He’s not even taking up a senior or rookie list spot.

Baker got upgraded from cat B to the regular rookie list last year to create a spot to list Livingstone as a cat B with Dewar

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Hes on the normal rookie list isnt he? Our Cat-Bs are Dewar and Livingstone according to the contracts thread

I might stand corrected but I thought we elevated Dewar not Baker.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Here’s the bit on Chad Warner

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Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

from gettable Keys

I might have misremembered and added in the “last time he was out of contract” part