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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."






 
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Surely it would be better to choose though and make your own destiny rather than allow other teams to make it for you, unless the compensation for trading down was particularly attractive.
A second round or low first round pick doesn’t seem to cut it.

We absolutely need a guaranteed top midfield player, possibles won’t do. So if this can’t be assured with pick 6 or above then it would be reckless to trade down pick 3.

I think it can be assured at pick 6 looking at the names on the board and that’s precisely why I’m suggesting it. It’s the ideal year to do it imo
 

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I'm sure they'd be open to trade pick 3 if it's Baker and pick 6 for 3 then I probably wouldn't mind it since you can pretty much throw a blanket over the first handful of picks.

Grabbing the former Richmond list manager sounds pretty terrible in hindsight now
So you are basing your assessment about our list manager on a suggestion by Ralph!
 
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“You could give up the 12 you get for Barrass or …”

Anyone know what username Ralphy posts under over on the Tigers board?

Anyone want to point out Barrass is a quality player, who is our vice captain, and has three years to run on his deal (contracted players are worth a premium, see: Daniel Rioli for pick 6?).

Bloody hell.
 
So you are basing your assessment about our list manager on a suggestion by Ralph!

“I’d be ok with this mooted deal but grabbing Clarke as our list manager seems terrible now”

How does one thing follow the other?
 

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I think we all (including me), need to take a breath, and remember that the AFL media has months of air time to fill, with only 9 games of AFL level for the season. Stupid trades, draft, contract discussions, will be happening.

I blame Victoria sports radio specifically, and SEN most of all. They have so many hours to fill.
 
We aren't trading 23 for Baker.

The trade is 3 for 9 and Baker.

We get to keep 23 in the scenario. Which we won't be able to otherwise.

If we trade 3 and 23 for Baker and 9 we are dunces I agree. Thats not what Ralph proposed though. I assume its more than the downgrade, but if it isn't, then I say start the car.

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Sorry I get what you mean now.

Then yeah that is the argument sort of.

Or to put it another way, is the gap between FOS and Langford large enough to not be worth getting in Baker and O'Farrell (or whatever player we take at 27). I'd say almost certainly not.
If we are downgrading 3 for a lower pick plus Baker, then it has to be #6 not #9.

At #9 we’re really getting towards the edge of the barrel, it’s just not high enough to be assured of a top midfielder.

Baker is not worth this risk when we’re starting in pole position.

Would easily walk away from Baker, the decision to get him seems partly nostalgic in that he was a big WCE supporter.
Having a former Richmond guy as list manager seems problematic.
 
If we are downgrading 3 for a lower pick plus Baker, then it has to be #6 not #9.

At #9 we’re really getting towards the edge of the barrel, it’s just not high enough to be assured of a top midfielder.

Baker is not worth this risk when we’re starting in pole position.

Would easily walk away from Baker, the decision to get him seems partly nostalgic in that he was a big WCE supporter.
Having a former Richmond guy as list manager seems partly problematic.

It’s a fair enough position to take. Personally I still think dropping to 9 is in our favour.
 
Anyone want to point out Barrass is a quality player, who is our vice captain, and has three years to run on his deal (contracted players are worth a premium, see: Daniel Rioli for pick 6?).

Bloody hell.
The Vic media are playing Barrass down in the trade period.

Next year they will all be swooning about what a great player he is, and how Hawthorn have got their missing premiership piece, and what a great deal they got.
 
Anyone want to point out Barrass is a quality player, who is our vice captain, and has three years to run on his deal (contracted players are worth a premium, see: Daniel Rioli for pick 6?).

Bloody hell.
Yes, we would like Baker for free.

First round price is ridiculous.
 

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