List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Mudguts12]

Was excited that we'd left Simpson's desert, but we've just Pyke'd out. Donny boy still feeling the effects from that Ablett bump in the 92 grand final.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Looking at draft rankings some have top 5 that others have in late teens . If we had pick 6 and Baker we could well have the same player at 12 or equally ranked by others . This is why they say this is an even spread down as far as pick 20 .

At pick 6 we get the choice at pick 15 its who the other teams didn't choose

 

[ukurrie]

WTF does that mean?
We agreed to a package deal? With those 2 players or with Richmond? If with Richmond, is that even allowed lol?

I assume it meant that we gave Graham reassurance that Baker will be signed.

That’s not the bit that irked me; it was the gaslighting that Graham is a massive coup and that we all partied in the streets when he signed.

 

[Ellroy80]

Maybe this is a cunning, long-term strategy to get multiple priority picks?

 

[shan76]

Enough hours now to digest this, The only thing i can make sense of is we are trying to get Warner next year?. Which goes to show we can't draft & develop decent midfielders!, WCE would rather pay the kings ransom to bring in developed players. . Pyke & Matt Clarke should have a commitment to WCE - not to Baker

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I actually rang the club today to make a complaint about there trading was told to email then and it would be taken on board

I then got a phone call back late this afternoon from our CEO

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I think the only list manager that was trigger happy is West Coast’s. putting everything in the line for Baker who is worth a second rounder at best and is 27 years old and he traded out pick 3 in a super draft.

Happy for you to keep TB but you need atleast another F1 to be in the running for Warner next year.

The only KPD to be traded for two firsts is Lever who was 21 at the time. Barrass is 29 and has back issues which he has publicly stated. A F1 and F2 is a fair trade IMO without you sending anything back.

If you don’t trade him you have a 30 year old defender next year on your books with less draft capital to use before Tassie comes in, making the future drafts more compromised.

Your club has sold you an unrealistic dream and failed to deliver. The proof is in the pudding today and it will be either way it goes tomorrow.

You can’t pull the 29 years old card if you’re offering 5 years

 

[Bender_]

Because other teams get better and we don't.
If we stand still yet everyone steps forward its a loss of position is it not?

Eh, are we talking about the same thing here?

 

[Hook461123]

I wonder if Pykes plan is to trade our F1 to Tigers for 6. Lets them take a top 5 pick again next year and we get a mid at 6 and that’s why we didn’t bargain harder for Baker?
Part of a bigger picture? Clutching at straws here

 

[Bender_]

I actually rang the club today to make a complaint about there trading was told to email then and it would be taken on board

I then got a phone call back late this afternoon from our CEO

Was it a recorded message?

 

[robbo 39]

Pick 12 will be a star and we'll finish higher than Carlton next year.

 

[ronpingwins]

I actually rang the club today to make a complaint about there trading was told to email then and it would be taken on board

I then got a phone call back late this afternoon from our CEO

What did he say…

 

[Schtinker]

So what do we give to get Dev and Malaki? Can we go into deficit for Malaki? Will Brisbane give us Dev, and picks 34 and 49 for 26?

 

[CountryLad]

I actually rang the club today to make a complaint about there trading was told to email then and it would be taken on board

I then got a phone call back late this afternoon from our CEO

Did you remind him of Fremantle's early history of doing such trades and how that faired?

 

[THE A5]

This irks me to the bone. baker firstly isn’t worth what we paid for but at the end of the day he isn’t a star player or a young/mid 20’s player on the cusp of being a star. He’s a good honest foot soldier. Type of player you would be happy to get but not bend over backwards to get. Look it could even be justified if we are contending and needing to bolster up the list but this response from the dog is utter crap and needs to be revisited in few years time if/when we are still in the same position as we are currently in. Totally expected Pyke to be a no nonsense character that will show a spine and make some tough calls but what he did was roll over without any form of fight.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Pick 12 since 2006. Hopefully we get a Zac Butters rather than a Kane Lucas

Kane Lucas

Age

33

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

19.4

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

10.4

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

1.2

4star

 

[Corn69]

What did he say…

Invited him to a special camp.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

I agree with you to an extent, but Freo had reportedly offered a higher pick than that so that's where the market was set. We couldn't have got him for less, so at that point our hands were tied.

We walk away?

Absolutely ludicrous that we pay whatever we have to get it done.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I actually rang the club today to make a complaint about there trading was told to email then and it would be taken on board

I then got a phone call back late this afternoon from our CEO

He was working the phones today was he, covering lunch breaks?

Come on now…

 

[Spod]

Again I don't love the deal but the melts here have been getting absolutely excessive. It is not going to "set our club back 5 years" or "cost us our next premiership". We are getting pick 12 instead of pick 3 in a draft that projects as pretty even. Any pick could be a bust, but one failed pick rarely ruins a club.

We paid overs (again) and it is very frustrating and a bad look but we will survive. I agree the trend of bad trades is concerning but in the end it's not even going to be the worst trade this week (Rioli) - and between either Collingwood or Port it may well not even have been the worst trade today.

 

[briztoon]

So what do we give to get Dev and Malaki? Can we go into deficit for Malaki? Will Brisbane give us Dev, and picks 34 and 49 for 26?

100% we would.

 

[Ghossein]

Pick 12 since 2006. Hopefully we get a Zac Butters rather than a Kane Lucas
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people on here wanted us to draft Lucas over Sheppard at the time

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I wonder if Pykes plan is to trade our F1 to Tigers for 6. Lets them take a top 5 pick again next year and we get a mid at 6 and that’s why we didn’t bargain harder for Baker?
Part of a bigger picture? Clutching at straws here

Will be sweet when in Hindsight that also turns out to be a bad trade

 

[FKASC]

people on here wanted us to draft Lucas over Sheppard at the time

* Jetta

 

[THE A5]

Pick 12 since 2006. Hopefully we get a Zac Butters rather than a Kane Lucas
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Who Got hard?