List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[twce13]

Selections of pick 15 this century;

Simon Wiggins

Barry Brookes

Nicholas Smith

Troy Chaplin

Lynden Dunn

Travis Varcoe

Daniel O'Keefe

Robbie Tarrant

Mitch Brown

Christian Howard

Billy Smedts

Brandon Ellis

Taylor Garner

Zak Jones

Jarrod Garlet

Daniel Rioli

Jordan Gallucci

Zac Bailey

Jordan Clark

Cody Weightman

Leek Aleer

Matthew Jefferson

Jordan Croft

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

80 pages since I last managed to jump on bigfooty this morning, you bunch of absolute sickos…

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Think team will do that but it’s a 50/50 call I feel

In any case Pyke and co think that team is competing for finals….. Crazy

You can say that as many times as you like, such that you can be extra mad if we’re awful again, but that doesn’t make it true.

We’ve not topped up to go chips in on a flag tilt. You know this, so spare us the hysterics. Even me writing this now is folly.

We’ve tried to fill a gap in our list in a pretty crucial bracket, given how astonishingly bare the 25-29 year old cupboard is. You don’t need to agree with that being a need, and certainly you’d get minimal pushback on how eye wateringly steep the price we paid was.

19 of the 42 players on our list are 21 or younger. We’re moving Barrass for future picks and going to have to hit next year’s draft as a result of moves in this period.

Really can’t be bothered reading the fake outrage “well better get the finals tilt going” crap. HQ have given us enough of a stick to beat them with, before we invent pure nonsense ones.

Edit: I see Larri has already handled this far more succinctly. You truly are full of shit.

 

[amazingjoshy]

would be great but i feel the chance we manage to flip barrass for 2xF1s is about 0%

Even if we just get an F1 + F2 for Barrass we still have 2xF1s, 2xF2s and an F3 to play with

We should absolutely be pushing for more but there's still opportunity there

 

[Slash136]

Never seen so much hate from Eagles fans for the club. It's like this has been this tipping point for 3.5 terrible years and the fans have said enough.

 

[dinnaz]

Eh, are we talking about the same thing here?

If I yell at enough clouds, one might be the correct one

 

[footy_basis]

What was the first one?

Surely the coach recruitment process. If you think we've got the best candidate, you weren't paying attention. Unprecedented numbers pulled out of the process. It was likely following a phone conversation with the Don.

 

[squashface]

Who's the Jarrod Brander

31

Jarrod Brander

Age

25

Ht

195cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

4.9

5star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.3

2star

D

12.3

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.5

3star

D

9.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.2

2star

or Campbell Chesser of this draft? Because we are of course back in that range where we like it for some reason.

 

[beatlesmith]

I'm totally perplexed at how Matt Owies was the key to unlocking that trade.

He's a perfectly decent player, but why on earth did we feel the need to target him?
We have experienced forwards in Ryan and Cripps.
We have exciting young players in Dewar, Brockman, Hutchinson and Long.
We have academy options in Champion (this year) and Walley (next year).
We have mids who like to rotate forward in Reid, Hewett, Kelly and now Graham.
We have Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

, whose proposed role is unclear but who has often played on a HFF.

We are creating the most needless logjam and wasting salary cap space on someone who will be 28 at the start of the season. FMD.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Devo that we aren't getting Sid Draper.

 

[kerrazy]

Where's GoEagles when we need him...

 

[Obeanie1]

That’s what they want but this isn’t a points trade. They would get a pick so that’s points. We don’t have any thirds so will be probably hawks’ future 2nd, which will be like pick 45.

Pick 26 for Robertson and pick 34.

34 will drop back to 26 come draft night.

Lions bank 180 points.

 

[sharps24]

Who's the Jarrod Brander or Campbell Chesser of this draft? Because we are of course back in that range where we like it for some reason.

We've already got Chesser but Brander might nominate given he's now the NT's preeminent goal machine and a pretty handy teachers assistant to boot. I say we give him another chance. Coincidentally he's in an age range we really lack so odd as it might seen, you could definitely say there is method to the madness of using 12 on him.

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[Obeanie1]

Where's GoEagles when we need him...

 

[THE A5]

What was the first one?

Not folding the club

 

[javaguice]

Hawks will smell blood.

We will get 2x 2nd rounders or something because of "commitments"

What a rabble we have become. Laughing stock of the AFL

Pyke needs to commit to sitting on his fist

 

[Off Tap]

Go get em Don!

Lets take some weak bladders for a ride.

Don "Topper" Pyke bringing it home

 

[HoneyBadger35]

On Reid - the one element of the melts that I don’t agree with is that this pushes him out the door.

A 3-20 season with him heading into the final year of his contract potentially pushes him out the door.

Many won’t agree that this will lift our floor materially, and you can also argue if doing this to keep Reid (if that’s the reason) is too short sighted, but I certainly think it only helps the pursuit.

Doesn’t make the deal better, just think the tiny silver lining is that a more competitive Eagles is better for getting Harley’s signature.

No, that doesn’t mean finals and flag tilts, but it also shouldn’t have any games where we’re blown off the park by halftime. Need to sell a mid term vision as well as a long, even if we all really ****ing hate how they’re gone about it.

 

[stallon]

I wonder if Pykes plan is to trade our F1 to Tigers for 6. Lets them take a top 5 pick again next year and we get a mid at 6 and that’s why we didn’t bargain harder for Baker?
Part of a bigger picture? Clutching at straws here

Even if its a trade night deal, if certain players we want are there at 6 we swap, otherwise we leave it. Idk

 

[sey666]

BINGO

Barrass gets done for HF1st , Blues F1st with WC F2nd and F3rd going back.

We hold our own F1st, HF1st and Blues F1st.

2024 pick 12 and 26.

Which of those picks above would Richmond like to move into next year?

Pyke has said wait until after the Barrass trade.

Its obvious we paid overs for Baker. Blatantly obvious.

Do we bring forward our F1st for 10 and 18 and claw back some of the "credits in the bank" from the Baker deal.

Retain two F1st for any trade needs. These F1sts traded in releases our F1st to be traded out.

Hit the draft with 10, 12, 18, 26.

Feel come draft night there will be some back peddling with some of the OTT reactions today.

Are you suggesting trading our own F1 (which most definitely will be a top 5 pick) to Richmond for picks 10 and 18 this year? That's two top 3-5 picks out the door in 2 years. Haven't Richmond got enough from us already? If we are trading any F1 out then it should be either Haw F1 or Carlton F1 assuming we get one or both (highly unlikely). Those F1s will be more like 12 and 14 this year.

 

[NYRB]

I don’t understand the fascination with getting Warner? People pinning their hopes on a dude that goes missing when the going gets tough and needs to get his hands dirty aka another Tim Kelly .

I sense with Warner is he will play better around better players. Not sold on him being the number 1 midfield where he will be targeted. Sydney have a plethora of talented midfielders : Heeney, Gulden, Rowbottom, Mills (when fit) .

I too am not sure he is the answer alone to West Coast list.

 

[stallon]

If we get Tobie at pick 12 do all of our melts melt away?

Davo thinks we are a chance on his latest mock draft.

If we get Tobie with 12 I will start campaigning for Clarke to be given a 15 year extension

 

[javaguice]

I sense with Warner is he will play better around better players. Not sold on him being the number 1 midfield where he will be targeted. Sydney have a plethora of talented midfielders : Heeney, Gulden, Rowbottom, Mills (when fit) .

I too am not sure he is the answer alone to West Coast list.

I see another Tim Kelly deal brewing

 

[Bender_]

I sense with Warner is he will play better around better players. Not sold on him being the number 1 midfield where he will be targeted. Sydney have a plethora of talented midfielders : Heeney, Gulden, Rowbottom, Mills (when fit) .

I too am not sure he is the answer alone to West Coast list.

We already have a number 1 midfielder that's targeted. He'll be second banana.

 

[juddy_Like]

The only word that comes to mind even with the hindsight of time is ‘deflating’. From refreshing Twitter every five minutes to reading every single page in this mammoth thread, the wish now is for the trade period to be over.

Generally the reward for being a good team is playing finals and the hope of winning a flag.
The reward for being a poor team is trade and draft period and the hope of jagging the next Judd, Gaff or dare I say it, Reid. Essentially having the best odds at getting the best player in the draft.

Getting Pick 3 or thereabouts for us has historically been uncommon. This is a blessing but something we have to fully maximise when we have it as it generally means you have lost a gun player or had an extremely poor year. Its not something you want to happen too often.

What’s most saddening is that we’re a victim of our own success. We will never be granted with the so called ‘AFL levellers’ to quickly rebuild. Our market isn’t important enough to warrant an academy, we’re too solvent to ever get priority picks or favourable herbs and spices compensation picks and the economic and geographically reality of not being a large Melbourne based club generally means we find it harder to attract top tier players.

The trade has been intrinsically dissected with the flaws repeated many times over. What hasn’t been mentioned is why we couldn’t work out a deal with our old, new friend Matty Rosa and strike a deal with the bombers since they went on record in wanting to trade up. Surely Pick 9 plus whatever would have been better than this?

Getting rid of the steak knives also means no to Champion I'm assuming.

Moving forward and to try and pick the positives even when there’s no way to spin it, our best hope is the draft falls our way and one of the top picks say a Tobie slides to us for whatever reason. Who we would have taken at 7 is still there for us when it’s our turn. That and we somehow get the 2024 Brady Hough with our second pick.

I’ll still put my faith in the club as lets face it, we’ve been blessed. But even I’m starting to question if the highly professional, nice to work with public image is to appeal to corporates because you know... bejamin$ baby and is occasionally forgotten about seven times each year when we lose by nearly 100.