List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Yeah, for a bloke we traded up to get and was described as ready made and plug and play, Hall was a bit lacklustre. More so for the Beagles rather than his AFL games.

He was hyped a fair bit by the club and track watchers before he got hurt in that pre season game, so that might've raised expectations.

I'm still adamant Chesser never really got his solid block in the WAFL to build him up properly. Go back, play mid and you'll be there until you string together x amount of games with x amount of KPI'S.

Seems his WAFL stint was a brief one and he was soon back into the side and playing the usual somewhat invisible role, as per normal.

His disposals and a lot of his other stat averages actually went backwards in 2024 from the previous season

Mcqualter will want his dan rioli run and carry metres gained role player. Currently, we don't have one, so he will want to develop one. We tried ryan but for some reason gave up on that idea. JJ had a brief moment when it looked likely, but he's gone. Witherden failed miserably. I was hoping burgeil, but alas.

Looking at our lists running profiles, Chesser could quite possibly be that. Maybe Brockman too

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Schtinker]

Funny about Simmo valuing versatility so much yet when we actually won the flag, it was due to players actually playing in their preferred positions and not pigeon-holed elsewhere.

Strange he veered away from that after '18.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I really hate that we gave those late picks to Carlton, worried it could screw us with a champion bid should it come earlier then expected.

Imagine we go into next year with a deficit or have to pass on champion. Would be the icing on the cake.

Was stupid to downgrade those late picks .

Carlton must have been laughing their ass off how stupid we were

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Mcqualter will want his dan rioli run and carry metres gained role player. Currently, we don't have one, so he will want to develop one. We tried ryan but for some reason gave up on that idea. JJ had a brief moment when it looked likely, but he's gone. Witherden failed miserably. I was hoping burgeil, but alas.

Looking at our lists running profiles, Chesser could quite possibly be that. Maybe Brockman too

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

Brockman is quick , great defensively and a neat kick . Makes sense to move him back because he can't kick goals for shit

 

[briztoon]

I did read it. Maybe I’m illiterate. Theres a difference between coming out of contract for the first time after a rookie contract and all hitting free agency at the same time.

My bad.

Again I don’t see an issue with so many players hitting free agency at once.

Some will likely be re-signed on longer deals before they get to free agency.

Others possibly don’t make it.

Best case scenario (for Richmond, not the rest of us) is they’re all guns and willing to take unders to stay together for a flag.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Was stupid to downgrade those late picks .

Carlton must have been laughing their ass off how stupid we were

What did my head in, along with trading 2 late picks for an even later one, was that Richmond only had to give up baker with no sweeteners.

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[Hangover Noir]

iT'S MINDBLOWING! There, their - get it right, y'all. And he's /his - drives me crazy too, but then I am an English teacher.

Who are we versing in round 1?

 

[BartBart]

Who are we versing in round 1?

Is that the pre-season poem competition?

 

[EagleEgo]

jesus christ that is woeful viewing, turnovers , falling over and a few tackles???

Looks like you have not watched too much of the highlight of the other "top" players!?

 

[bzparkes]

For those hand-wringers still devastated over trading out pick 3 and frothing with jealousy over Richmond's draft picks, I just came across this on the main board:

Richmond hold picks 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24

The idea would be that this years draft crop would help Richmond make a draft push when they mature, which is usually around 25 years of age.

If another team did the same thing with the same picks in 2017 with the idea that 2024 would be the year they'd mature enough to make the finals push, they'd have the following result:

1: Cam Rayner (140 games, 2024 AA squad)
6: Jaidyn Stephenson

2

Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

(122 games)
10: Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

(66 games - delisted)
11: Aiden Bonar

16

Aiden Bonar

Age

25

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

MG

101.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

MG

101.0

2star

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

(34 games - delisted)
18: Brandon Starcevich

37

Brandon Starcevich

Age

25

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

(118 games)
20: Callum Coleman-Jones

21

Callum Coleman-jones

Age

25

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

5.0

5star

G

0.0

1star

(31 games)
23: Will Walker

27

Will Walker

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

4star

CL

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

4star

CL

0.8

3star

(6 games - delisted)
24: Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(144 games, 2019 AA, 2023 B&F)

Rayner & Starc are good gets. TK obviously great but unlikely to be picked up in a situations like Richmonds.

I guess Tigers fans can be thankful this process wasn't started in 2017 lol

Pretty horrendous list, with Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

being the best of that lot, as well as the latest picked.

 

[Hook461123]

My bad.

Again I don’t see an issue with so many players hitting free agency at once.

Some will likely be re-signed on longer deals before they get to free agency.

Others possibly don’t make it.

Best case scenario (for Richmond, not the rest of us) is they’re all guns and willing to take unders to stay together for a flag.

Possibly but far from optimum. Still reckon they’ll prefer to move 1 or two picks into next year but maybe I’m wrong.
If it gets to draft night and the kid we wanted at 3 is still there at 6, we may ask the question.

 

[Godfather32]

For those hand-wringers still devastated over trading out pick 3 and frothing with jealousy over Richmond's draft picks, I just came across this on the main board:

Richmond hold picks 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24


11: Aiden Bonar (34 games - delisted)

Rayner & Starc are good gets. TK obviously great but unlikely to be picked up in a situations like Richmonds.

I guess Tigers fans can be thankful this process wasn't started in 2017 lol

Pretty horrendous list, with Tim Kelly being the best of that lot, as well as the latest picked.

GWS were dumb as f**k, they could have had Brander instead!

 

[JackOutback]

Who are we versing in round 1?

 

[bzparkes]

GWS were dumb as f**k, they could have had Brander instead!

Was even their academy product

 

[THE A5]

So Rothams been cut.

 

[THE A5]

Wonder if he’s agreed to sign on a dfa with someone

 

[King Huskii]

For those hand-wringers still devastated over trading out pick 3 and frothing with jealousy over Richmond's draft picks, I just came across this on the main board:



Pretty horrendous list, with Tim Kelly being the best of that lot, as well as the latest picked.

That's a sample size of one year. Would be interesting to look at every AFL year over the past 20 years before forming an opinion.

Some drafts are better than others. Richmond must rate this draft highly and can always move back into the following year.

 

[TerryFilk]

So Rothams been cut.
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Rhino is having an absolute stinker last few weeks

 

[Forward Press]

Wonder if he’s agreed to sign on a dfa with someone

Good luck to him but I don't see him being part of any other team's first 22. Too small to be a KPD, not agile enough to provide run out of defence, foot skills also questionable.

Wasn't too fussed that he didn't get delisted a few days ago, but also not too fussed that he didn't make this final cut.

 

[Forward Press]

That's a sample size of one year. Would be interesting to look at every AFL year over the past 20 years before forming an opinion.

Some drafts are better than others. Richmond must rate this draft highly and can always move back into the following year.

I posted in that thread applying the same list to the 2001 draft which every AFL watcher acknowledges was a superdraft.

Result is similar enough.

 

[cottoneyeYeo]

Rhino is having an absolute stinker last few weeks

"growing possibilty" never said he was locked on to stay

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Didn't have any list spots basically.

For instance, Fantasia is a pure shit truck, yet he stay and Owies goes.

Reckon the Blues would much rather have Owies over Orazio.

Also Durdin, he's absolute rubbish.

Owies miles ahead of both of them.

Motlop didn't have a preseason last year, so they're banking on him having a big preseason/season this year.

Owies defensive pressure was highlighted as an area of weakness.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

So Rothams been cut.
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Wow they actually gave him the ass. I wonder how active they were in trying to shop him around to clubs if this is the case. Even if it was for a pick in the 50's.

 

[InTheWings]

So, Simmo wasn't exaggerating when he said there'd be around 10 list changes. Unless I've missed somebody, Roth out rounds out the ten...

Gaff
Barrass
Darling
Rotham
Witheren
Culley
Burgiel
Jones
Baker
Trew

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

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I don’t recall you asking permission to post me!!