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[Footy_Fan2007]

Probably looking at the Hawks now

Really wants out of the dogs hey.
Says a lot really.

 

[Catman]

Sometimes you watch team sports and you can just tell from the first five minutes whether it's going to be a genuine competition or not.

The first five minutes of this game just didn't pass the eye test for me. It's not who scores or who wins contests or anything metrical. It's just the intent and compete. And it just wasn't there for me. It's not often you get a 'crystal ball' feeling in this sport with the closeness of the competition, but I just knew this one wasn't going our way.

At the ground I said the same thing to my sister. You just knew early it wasn't going to end well.

 

[Finknottle]

Did he have any residual effects from that throat knock last week? Or just dropped due to the rain/wet?

I am still flummoxed as to how the Dogs with their much taller side still seemed quicker and they had the stickiest hands and surest handling you could believe. Lobb, well we made Petty look like Wayne Carey when we played the Dees, this hitherto disappointing 31-y/o journeyman suddenly looking like an AA CHB. The way the Dogs tall forwards would 'pluck' one grab marks in those conditions rankled big time. And our forwards couldn't even influence a contest to even bring ball to ground. A comprehensive thrashing at K.P the likes I've not seen in a long time, well in terms of the game flow. We were dominated in every aspect of the game.

You described it well. The only thing I would add is Geelong was lucky to get away with an 8 goal loss. The Bulldogs missed a lot of gettable shots at goal in the first half and it kept us in the game. Last night's home game could easily have been a 15 goal loss.

 

[foxdog50]

Our last 5 weeks in ball winners.
Stewart 116
Holmes 114
Duncan 105
DeKoning 103
Dempsey 95

The lack of ball winners on our team is concerning.
The fun fact out of this only one of those players has hit 20 disposals or more in every one of those 5 matches.
SDK

I know this is for another thread,but this is why McRae would be great for us next as he can find and get plenty of disposals? But what would he cost?

 

[Finknottle]

You looks at Dogs Midfield and then you see guys like McRae starting at sub.. he would be easily in our starting Midfield any day of the week at Geelong

So true, I'd go further and suggest that half of our midfield rotation would struggle to get a game at another club. It's not surprising given the AFL equalisation policy.

 

[calder_daddy]

I know this is for another thread,but this is why McRae would be great for us next as he can find and get plenty of disposals? But what would he cost?

You would get him for sweet fa and mainly because he’s on a large contract
A 3rd rounder

 

[calder_daddy]

So Neale not playing. Was it just match up or was it his throat injury?

Match ups

 

[Cat_Mancini]

Probably lucky to be as close as 8 goals in the end. Dogs just better everywhere on the night. They forced us down the line a lot which was always going to play to into their hands as we had no presence in the air. We butchered going into the 50 and continually kicked to them. Our forwards had very little chance. Dogs also didn’t allow us to switch the ball so we were kicking to congestion all the time and as was mentioned in earlier posts we got there second and didn’t play infront.

I thought the defensive unit held up ok considering the amount that came their way. De Koning battled hard, Stewy, Close and Guthrie did too. Rest looked lethargic and well beaten.

 

[Hinkley29]

Do you think Darcy Fogarty might HSBC taken a few Hinkley29 ....

I'll see myself out

HSBC? I am confused.

And do I think Fogarty would have been useful in those conditions? Yes

Do I think we see those conditions more than once a season? No

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I know this is for another thread,but this is why McRae would be great for us next as he can find and get plenty of disposals? But what would he cost?

Massive contract playing as sub in a side with a lot of big contracts falling due for renewal. 3rd rounder I would guess but I don't known if he's the right player for us

 

[CatToTheFuture]

HSBC? I am confused.

And do I think Fogarty would have been useful in those conditions? Yes

Do I think we see those conditions more than once a season? No

Sorry auto correct thought I meant a bank instead of "have"

 

[Vdubs]

Think the reality is we just arent that good, soon as the opposition actually has a Ruckman and a good quality midfield we've been made to look very average this year, will make finals as theres enough sides shitter than us and we have a pretty easy run home but we are definitely just making up the numbers.

We aren't top 4 good, no doubt at all about that. We are 7-12 good. Our areas of deficiency were a real concern for me pre this game, and then magnified by Neale's absence a little; yet he does not yet provide some of what we need- a powerful ruckman, and a replacement for Hawkins, along with ball-getting mids.
We looked as if a virus or gastro had been through the team- lack-lustre, weaker efforts, no zip- whatever it was, it does not create confidence for games in Tassie or Marvel, or back at Geelong.
One thing for certain, Bulldogs can be confident of going deep in September- they have the list, the form, and it seems the hunger.

 

[Cataholic]

Sometimes you watch team sports and you can just tell from the first five minutes whether it's going to be a genuine competition or not.

The first five minutes of this game just didn't pass the eye test for me. It's not who scores or who wins contests or anything metrical. It's just the intent and compete. And it just wasn't there for me. It's not often you get a 'crystal ball' feeling in this sport with the closeness of the competition, but I just knew this one wasn't going our way.

If our mortgages had the same interest rate as they did last night we'd all be paying them off tomorrow.

 

[Finknottle]

HSBC? I am confused.

And do I think Fogarty would have been useful in those conditions? Yes

Do I think we see those conditions more than once a season? No

That's the strange thing. We like to think of Geelong as one of the best wet weather teams in the comp. However Geelong looked rattled by the conditions and the Bulldogs at times looked like they were playing under the roof at Marvel stadium. They were so strong in contested situations and their ball handling was clean all over the ground.

 

[Hinkley29]

Sorry auto correct thought I meant a bank instead of "have"

I was also a bit confused as to why you were seeking my opinion on Fogarty.

 

[Hinkley29]

Massive contract playing as sub in a side with a lot of big contracts falling due for renewal. 3rd rounder I would guess but I don't known if he's the right player for us

The dogs have made their bed with that contract.

Now that have to lie in it.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I was also a bit confused as to why you were seeking my opinion on Fogarty.

I may have tagged the wrong person here. I haven't had a lot of sleep.

 

[Hinkley29]

That's the strange thing. We like to think of Geelong as one of the best wet weather teams in the comp. However Geelong looked rattled by the conditions and the Bulldogs at times looked like they were playing under the roof at Marvel stadium. They were so strong in contested situations and their ball handling was clean all over the ground.

We sucked last night, no doubt about it.

But I don’t think you can take much from the game because the conditions were so unusual.

Not super wet, but very muddy and soft. Like an afternoon game at Moorabbin in 1984. You rarely see conditions like that any more. And you never see them in finals.

It is 4 points dropped, and there will be some questions asked about our intent at times, but apart from that I think you just move on.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

That's the strange thing. We like to think of Geelong as one of the best wet weather teams in the comp. However Geelong looked rattled by the conditions and the Bulldogs at times looked like they were playing under the roof at Marvel stadium. They were so strong in contested situations and their ball handling was clean all over the ground.

We looked great in the Brisbane and Hawthorn wet weather games. We looked terrible last night in a mid pit and against the Suns in a sauna.

 

[Cataholic]

We sucked last night, no doubt about it.

But I don’t think you can take much from the game because the conditions were so unusual.

Not super wet, but very muddy and soft. Like an afternoon game at Moorabbin in 1984. You rarely see conditions like that any more. And you never see them in finals.

It is 4 points dropped, and there will be some questions asked about our intent at times, but apart from that I think you just move on.

The conditions didn't impede the Dogs though.

The conditions didn't affect their ball handling, their thoughts process, or their intent.

They wanted it. They came to compete.

We didn't give so much as a yelp.....we couldn't be bothered, and we played dumb. Our bodies turned up without our heads and hearts.

 

[fpm84]

Just a bit muddy.

 

[Vdubs]

Lobb, Buku, English, Darcy, JUH- these players dominated us.
Along with Bont, Treloar, Richards.
They certainly are top 4 worthy- the last 2 weeks , beating 3rd and 2nd... next week will tell us a bit more v Swans.
Are we capable of getting up again from this? Time will tell, but that was our worst performance since Demons prelim

 

[BORIS332]

Also, I’ll claim the easiest meat tray ever very early for next week:

In: Neale, Bruhn
Out: Knevitt, Parfitt.

Close did some good things last night but he didn’t go when he had to. There was one incident where he skirted the contest and it cost us a goal, the camera went to CS and he was fuming. Not sure he gets dropped for it, but he’s most likely on notice.

 

[BORIS332]

Our last 5 weeks in ball winners.
Stewart 116
Holmes 114
Duncan 105
DeKoning 103
Dempsey 95

The lack of ball winners on our team is concerning.
The fun fact out of this only one of those players has hit 20 disposals or more in every one of those 5 matches.
SDK

Irrelevant stat. Gold Coast have two blokes in the top 10 for disposals. The game is won by system, not by individual stat pigs.

 

[Gyno79]

Would rather a 0-2 finals series than a 0-1

Kids need to run out in finals to experience it and I would think we'd be a solid shot at winning the semi at least

Yes but there's a point where being humiliated might do more harm than good. We're in no man's land. Clearly not winning a flag and not getting high draft picks